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I think GL is trying to fool us like he did on ROTJ

On the teaser trailer, anakins lightsabre glow doesnt look as good as obi's, but the closeup of him choking obi its lukes saber from ANH,

So what I'm thinking is that (sorry if this has already been said) ani uses his old one (blue) on the table fight and later somhow obi manages to take ani's lightsabre or ani just decides to put it away, and takes out his brand new sith lightsabre

no evidence for it, and all evidence against it can be written off as you stated.
so there's really nowhere to go with this...besides "it may happen...and it may not"

that could work. george did say some shots from the trailer will look different in the movie...i wonder

Meditate on this, I will!

My prediction, most of the duel is blue Vs. blue. However, I have a feeling a short part of it will involve Anakin taking out another one and using red as well.

I'm still firm in my belief it'll be blue vs. blue. The only red vs. blue i'm interested in is this one!

That is a plus sign, not an X.

It's just speculation, but remember ROTJ
Luke had a blue sabre in the trailers

and sith master x, thats exactly what im saying

Yeah! I love red vs blue...hilarious stuff.

Cool, and I notice you mentioned the table fight. Is that in the conference room or something?

and btw I think blue vs blue would be cooler
just saying I have a feeling a part of the duel will be red vs blue

yea when ani is chocking obi you can see the mustafar conference room in the background and they're on top of the table

wow, omg!!!! someone thinks it'll be blue vs blue?? where was i when this was first said 3 months ago?!?!


oh yea.....i was here....

Uh... it's clearly going to be blue vs. blue. No point in thinking otherwise.

well I'm just saying it might happen I'm not saying it will happen, but we'll see in May

oh god, this has been discussed in about a thousand different threads, and it always ends up going nowhere.....i mean without some new concrete evidence, where else can it go?....(although i have to admit i've always seen the POSSIBILITY of things happening the way you describe).....even so - MEERGE!!....

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look at that frame from the trailer
Not evidence, but I don't think ILM would be that sloppy with the real thing

have you watched the original trilogy dvds yet?....just posted the pics because some here didn't kow of the table duel....still can't see this thread going anywhere, wallalupp....he might change swords halfway through the duel, he might not....either one is feasable....end of story....for now....MERGE!!!....

I'm hoping to see Anakin wield a red one before the suit anyway

Not this again.

It's been confirmed that they will not wield any lightsabers at all. See my sig.

Close!

Ok since everyone is on the topic of the ani-obi- duel i figured id throw in my 10 cents.

noticed that in this picture obi-wan has a lightsaber and anakin dont then in the far bottom right cornor you see obi-wans saber on the ground which means he some how has anakins saber. then I believe at some point anakin gets the choke on Obi-wan as in the trailer

http://www.geocities.com/jackarcher88/Untitled-1.jpg

Then in this scene we see Anakin chokeing Obi-wan but notice anakins saber is in obi-wans hand which kinda shows that in some point in the duel obi-wan loses his saber.

]http://www.geocities.com/jackarcher88/wrongsaber.jpg

Then notice in this scene Obi-wan has his own saber again which means that while anakin is chokeing him he drops anakins saber and then see's his saber and grabs his own and activates it.

http://www.geocities.com/jackarcher88/rightsaber.jpg

yup thats def Obi Wans on the table

yeah thats what im sayin

Looks to me you're seeing only what you want to see.. I see no quality difference in the sabres. Anakin's is moving in more of a straight fashion, so it looks a tad rectanglish, but that's all that I can think of in terms of quality difference.

I dont know, but to me it seems a bit photoshop'ed and the top of the blade doesn't quite match the bottom, maybe I am just seeing things,

but thats not really what I want to see, cuz I want blue vs blue all the way, ani pulling up a red lightsabre could be a bit cheesy

"I know there is still good in you ani, oh wait you have a red sabre so you must be evil. I better throw you in to the lava then"

Besides, this is THE DUEL.

EU has basically made this piece of its lore a reality. So many fans read the EU stuff and presumed the way Anakin becomes badly scarred is because he falls into some lava, and that's how Obi-Wan manages to keep Anakins saber.

That was probably the main thing that was accepted by many Star Wars fans - Lucas has pretty much incorporated it 100% from what the fans "assumed" Darth Vaders birth to be like from the EU story.

It's blue vs blue. To me, it's a symbolic sign of how wrong things are. Two blue sabers should never clash - yet they are. It's a sign of how awful things have become. Having red vs blue is just same old same old.

lol, I always thought that was a walkway. Never realized that was the Mustafar confrence table. Awesome though.

Red X

Same for me, though it did that right after he posted the and then came back up, and now their down agoain.

Oi, not this again. This is almost as bad as the Maul clone theory!

I don't see how you think that is a sloppy job with the lightsaber. It looks fine when you play the trailer.

Amen.

I love how they fight on the table. It's so swashbuckling!

En guarde!

disagree kinda on one point though red superfly, the details of the duel didn't come from eu, they came from lucas as far as i'm aware.....he even had production art done up for rotj showing the emperor's throne sitting in a lava flow deep under coruscant, and had it incorporated into one of the novels, and mentioned it many times in interviews.....you're probably right about the blue vs blue, but there appears to be a lot of sabre switching going on....i don't think we can count out a switch to red halfway through.....but i'm not really bothered myself until i see it in cinema....

Yeah same here.

i think that lucas is hinting something...

pablo already said there was gonna b no red vs blue

I agree with Rsuperfly, again I think the whole duel shows the deeper meaning of something good turning evil.
Besides, we'll see enough red vs. blue, puple vs. red/blue, green v.s red etc...
Still, I hope Lucas has something special planned for Vader.
He says Vader has only 2 to 5 minutes of screentime, but although everybody denies Vader will be in action...it could be a very nice plan in deceiving us till a big surprise is shown in the end!
I mean, why go through all the difficulty of showing Vader in full action shots, while doing nothing with it.
I couldn't be only for publicity-shots or action-figures...come on...

oh yea...well i heard its gonna be yellow vs brown, then i tie-dye lightsaber comes out, and they all smoke some bud and deathstix and thay all live happily ever after.

I dont think he did... can you find it

most likely the duel will ba all blue but nothing has been confirmed by the OS

ive been here for awhile now, but what exactly is th eOS?

The OS is a spinoff of "The OC" and that we need to watch it to see our new ROTS trailer!!!


LMFAO!! Just joking..

The OS is the Official Site www.starwars.com

I think the duel will be pink vs. aquamarine

C'mon, guys. All joking aside, you know it's gonna be all hand-to-hand kung fu combat.

you may be right about the aquamarine... i always thought that Lukes saber in ep 4 looked more.. i dont know... aquamarine than pure blue

I'm sorry but after 2 years and 50,000 threads on this EXACT topic it has just gotten silly.

My thoughts exactly

how many threads do we need on this topic...hmmmm?

I've got just the thing for you PVS...

Guys guys guys.....theyre not even fighting with lightsabers or the force.....theyre gonna be using the shwartz. The force cant stand up to the power of the shwartz. BUT if they do fight with lightsbers, you know it'll be clear vs. black....dummies.

no no no your all wrong anyone who knows anything about star wars knows that the fate of the galaxy is decided when anakin and obi link up game boys and have a pokemon duel.

Red vs. Blue is about as true as the identity of this bounty hunter:

http://img230.exs.cx/img230/6696/jarjarbountyhunter4kr.jpg

That is one scary bounty hunter, I wouldn't want to have to protect Padme from him!

OMG Kozzy! Now THATS funny!!!!!!!!!!!!1

some people still i denial..sigh..

its BLUE VS. BLUE PEOPLE!!

LEARN IT! LIVE IT! LOVE IT!

PREACH IT!

Never!

Lightsabers? But I thought this was a dance off.
Vader was going to do the robot.

OMFG...hysterical

THAT is some funny stuff there.

Now THIS is going to be a great movie!

Now this thread is getting interesting!!!

"you just got served"
^obi wans final words

i think its blue vs blue/ red vs blue

indeed!

I still like Van's idea of a red & white striped saber in honor of Christmas Candy Canes.......

Or maybe a red, blue and white barber pole style saber?

I still think kung-fu is the way to go, though.

Eh, you just want an Anakin doll with a kung fu grip, dont ya?

Yes. Yes I do. And an Obi-Wan with a rotating barber pole lightsaber used to make that cut on vader's head we see in ROTJ. With Obi-Wan saying "Shave and a hair cut. Two bits, my old Padawan!" as he does it.

Haha, yeah, that was great...

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Yeah Yeah Yeah, we know. You're a porn freak. Good Luck with that 12 step program.

I'm going for "potatoe-gun vs. rolling-pin"!

Anakin uses 2 sabers against dooku, so why shouldn't he use 2 sabers against obi (one red and one blue)

Because he wouldn't have them?

Here's a crazy idea.

It's blue vs blue.

WOW RSF! Thats just crazy enough to work!

Actually, I have just figured it all out.

Anakin polishes off Mace because all along he was angry about only one thing. Mace's special purple sabre. He orginally wanted one, but Obi-Wan made him take the blue one. This explains "Obi-Wan is holding me back!" from Attack of the Clones. He really wants to kill Obi-Wan because he reveals his darkest secret: his dreams were not about Padme's death, but about Mace's. After Mace dies in Anakins dream, they find out Mace left the purple sabre to Obi-Wan in his will. When he shows up with the purple sabre, Obi Wan knows that Anakin is evil because he must have killed Mace! Obi-Wan tries to tell Anakin that his dream was wrong, the Sabre was to go to Mace's son, but Anakin will not listen!

Episode IV is remastered to reflect the fact that the lightsabre does make it to it's rightful owner. Luke's "A New Hope" blade will be made purple.

Anyway, Purple is kinda like Red and kinda like Blue, so what we get is Blue vs. Red and Blue.

Everyone is happy!

Carnage

I think ani will have 2 sabers (from his duel with dooku), and then one of them will maybe get lost, or maybe obi will cut off the arm of the one holding the red saber, so it will end up blue on blue

OMG!! Who cares! So long as they duel I dont care if the sabers are polka dotted!!!

For crying out loud this is getting rediculous now.

It's blue vs blue.

DEAL WITH IT.

nice idea, but highly unlikely imho

Its going to be blue vs blue not red vs blue because Anakin is still a Jedi when he fights Obi Wan and he dosnt geta red lightsaber until he is Darth Vader

Haha!!!

WHO FREAKIN CARES! *Takes the red lightsaber and breaks it over his knee and toss's it into a river, then walks away*

Thank YOu Ben!!!

Yeah I think you're right, but what I think happens is that Obi-One and Anakan go in a massive fight for over 10 minutes with both blue lightsabers, but at the end, Anakan gets his Sith red lightsaber and tries to attack Obi-One but fails and Obi-one throws him in the lava pit.

It's been confrimed a couple months ago that it will Blue VS Blue lightsabre duel.

it was also "confirmed" that luke had a blue lightsabre in ROTJ, there is no way to be 100% sure until the movie comes out

oh and btw I started this thread so I won't hate GL if ani gets out a red one 'cause that would be dumb, instead i'll be thinking "told you so" and if it is blue vs blue, witch I have said many times I prefer, I will be even happier

just won't let GL ruin this for me

Since the new trailer has been leaked look at any version of it around the time 2 mintues and 8 seconds. From the pics of the great duel we can see both anakin and obiwan fighting over a catwalk. Look closely at anakins saber. In the first clear shots( not when their blades make contact we see a different hue of anakins saber. Its red or atleast the sample i took from it into photoshop. Could this be the infamous red vader saber that everyone denied he had?? Perhaps anakin doesnt lose his blue saber but during the duel it is forcefully taken from him by obi wan. In ANH Obi-wan says that "your father wanted you to have this..." but perhaps obiwan took it from him in a sort of "you dont deserve this weapon."( well obiwan does like to say things from a certain point of view). After it is taken anakin whips out a big red and proceeds fighting.

My justifications are..

1. Color sample shows red in photoshop
2. Anakin turns to the dark side way before the duel
3. Dookus saber is not being used
4. Dont all "cannon" sith use red?
5. Dont you think he would have a backup saber just in case??(there was a war on and it would suck if you lost your primary saber)
6. In early ROTJ luke did have a blue saber... but it was changed to green(doesnt really apply)


Again i am not trying to fuel the fire but could we all nicely consider that we maybe all wrong.

AND I WILL STATE AGAIN I AM NOT DISPUTING THE FACT THAT ANAKIN USES A BLUE LIGHTSABER IN THE DUEL.

i do think that MAYBE there will be parts where its blue on blue, but i definitley HOPE that there is red in part of it!!! na besides.. i still stay with what i originally said about how GL stated way early that sabers of the same color wouldnt be able to deflect eachother.. they would go right through eachother

I don't have new trailer i been off net for 2 days please post me it or e-mail me it i beg you

me me me post it to me!!

http://s29.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=22VEH4JMFGDEM0INJ7C8TIBCAO

i'm at work, and this is a crummy computer so I can't see the trailer very well, so I can't see what your talking about, but I agree, I would LOVE to see him pull out a red saber at some point.

wasn't there a spoiler that Anakin loses his blue lightsaber during the fight and suddenly pulls out a red one.

Hope that happens.

but the blue lightsaber is the one obi1 gives luke im suprised it wasnt full of the darkside after anikan used to kill so any jedi

Sabers cant abosorb the force, they are inanimate objects D:, the crystal that focuses the blade can, but that never came into contact witht he evil Anakin

well in empire strikes back a tree is filled with the darkside on dagobah

But the tree is living...its not an inanimate carbon rod...

Bad tree....NAUGHTY tree...

I heard that spoiler too. I think Lucas migth be working really hard to suprise everyone with that one though.

yep a tree is a living thing

In the new theatrical trailer,the duel footage is chock full of blue on blue,.......BUT, in one of the final shots with anakins back to the camera and they are kind of far away, as he is attackin obi it looks as if he has a red saber. This shot is one of the final shots of the trailer. Check it out and see what u think

P.S. I am not one of those people that thinks blue on blue sucks. I think it will look awesome and doesnt take away from the story, but it REALLy looks like red on blue to me as if Anakin switches during the duel or somethin

Check it out and see what u think

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I think i know what shot you are talking about but I still think it's blue on blue.

its hard to tell but i think its still blue. the one sort of on a balcony right?
its at 2:14

in the trailer its all blue...

I guess this belongs in here. I didn't wanna start a new thread for it!

I was looking though the trailer frame by frame and it seems in this clip that anakin throws his blue sabre at obi wan (a'la ROTJ stylee?), so this could explain how the red sabre comes into play. Obviously I don't know if that's definite, but it kinda looks like that when you play it back so i thought i'd mention it ;]

Take a look. Sorry if this has been discussed, haven't seen it anywhere.

http://img115.exs.cx/img115/15/anithrow0ff.jpg

Yeah, I just watched the trailer again - its all blue.

I JUST revived an older thread about this but i'll repost in here....

I was looking though the trailer frame by frame and it seems in this clip that anakin throws his blue sabre at obi wan (a'la ROTJ stylee?), so this could explain how the red sabre comes into play (if it does).

Obviously I don't know if that's definite, but it kinda looks like that when you play it back so i thought i'd mention it ;]

Take a look. Sorry if this has been discussed, haven't seen it anywhere.


http://img115.exs.cx/img115/15/anithrow0ff.jpg

yes, the trailer is all blue.
but that doesnt mean the duel is all blue.
even the ROTS anakin toy has a red saber

well looks like I should've read the MF.com report before posting. Still looks a bit like he lobs his sabre tho.

There is another thread on this red/blue thing.

Oh man I SO wish this topic would die already.

*kills topic* Anything for you, JP

ani does eventually use his red sabre but it doesn't show that in the trailer

i dont think he does use his red saber, there isnt time for him to make a new saber, thats why he uses the blue on in the first place

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Well, he DOES use a red saber, but its not his....

doesnt anakin and obi wan both fight dooku or just anakin?

Both, but Obi Wan gets knoced down (out?) and Ani ends it alone.

>.< dude... yes, they both fight Dooky but Obi-Wan gets knocked out 'cos he's a woozie

sounds good.

oh god! people! anakin does not use a red saber in the duel with obi-wan! he does not use dooku's saber, and there isnt enough time for him to make a new saber. plus, it makes no sense that he would make it, then use his blue one for some unknown reason while killing nute gunray and co. this is a stupid topic. the duel will be blue on blue the whole time, then anakin gets his ass handed to him and obi-takes his saber thinking anakin is dead. END-O-STORY!

Yeah, what time does this happen at?

what? it happens at the end of the movie...lol

Originally posted by Darth Plegueis
Well, he DOES use a red saber, but its not his.... I do not imply from this that he later uses it against Obi Wan (I agree blue on blue), just that at one point in the movie he DOES use a red saber.

No, I mean this alleged saber throwing shot - I've searched my trailers and NEVER seen that image before... so what's the source, bioptical?

Merging....

kinky

Originally posted by Naredhel
No, I mean this alleged saber throwing shot - I've searched my trailers and NEVER seen that image before... so what's the source, bioptical?

mate that's from the HS trailer. a reeeeally quick glimpse at 2:16

*edit* sorry 2:17 !

Look at the trailer aroun 2:13-2:16 when they are dueling on a balcony immediately following the shot of lava pouring on to a catwalk. It looks as if Anakin has a red saber, thats all im saying. I dont care either way, but to me it looks red.

its obviously blue, you just need to watch it frame per frame, its blue, no doubts...

Yes, it's all def blue in the trailer. Bioptical, I'm not convinced about this saber throwing lark. Maybe his saber just goes out of shot... considered that?

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
oh god! people! anakin does not use a red saber in the duel with obi-wan! he does not use dooku's saber, and there isnt enough time for him to make a new saber. plus, it makes no sense that he would make it, then use his blue one for some unknown reason while killing nute gunray and co. this is a stupid topic. the duel will be blue on blue the whole time, then anakin gets his ass handed to him and obi-takes his saber thinking anakin is dead. END-O-STORY!

umm wait till the movie is out till you say that.
Alot of people are morons :P

*sigh* ok, look there's no firm evidence that Anakin uses a red saber. What we've got to go on is pretty poor, so let's just say he uses blue right through and then if he uses red we can be happier. Yeah?

Why is this one still being debated? ITS BLUE ON BLUE, watch the trailer FFS!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Naredhel
Yes, it's all def blue in the trailer. Bioptical, I'm not convinced about this saber throwing lark. Maybe his saber just goes out of shot... considered that?


well i would consider that if the last of the four part screen shot i posted didnt clearly show his right hand in front of his face with no sign of the sabre handle, just the glove........ i think he lobs it.. doesn't mean he whips out a red sabre and it's not really that important, it just looks like he lobs it.

check the QT HS trailer using your cursor keys to skip through ;]

oo no it looks like i was actually wrong having a closer look it seems that it's obi wans left hand coming in from the right of the screen, cos the hand that obscures anakin's face isn't gloved. oops

hmmm thats the last time i should examine anything that minor that closely. sorry for bringing the thread back, just pointing out my mistake.