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so in 3, who do you reckon will kill whom, or who will die for whom?


today, im feeling the vibe that Norri will die for Elizabeth.
Elizabeth will kill Beckett, in order to save Jack.
Tia Dalma will kill Davy Jones
Bootstrap will die to save Will


what do you guys think?

oh, and norri will kill swann.

nnnooo!!!! I think Jack will kill Will 4 lizzie

jack kill will??how would that be for her?

barbossa will save jack from the kracken..

Hmm,

Norri or Beckett will kill Gov Swann
Will might kill Davy Jones
Jack will kill Barbosa
Liz might kill Sao Feng
Liz might kill Beckett or Norri, whichever killed her father
Jack might kill Tia
Will might kill Liz

you know guys not everyone has to die

LOL hehehe. i figure beckett, swann, norri, jones, and barbossa all stand a decent shot of dying. but i doubt ALL of them will. i really think Beckett will though.
hehehe.
i think it would be hott for tia to kill jones... dont know why. maybe to save jack or something.

everyone knows Jack wont die tho.

Let's just hope our big 3 don't die....not that all of you care about Will, though, I guess, so as long as our two don't die. Then we're good.

lol i wouldnt feel right if will died though... but if it was between him and jack, will better die lol

The only person that is confirmed to die is norrington , killed by wills dad.

i thought that it was confirmed that norri killed governor swann...

Originally posted by spencerspider
lol i wouldnt feel right if will died though... but if it was between him and jack, will better die lol

I just thaught that was funny.

Originally posted by katelovespirate
i thought that it was confirmed that norri killed governor swann...


where did you guys hear this?! i didnt know anybody's death was confirmed!

As far as I'm concerned, no death is "confirmed" until we see it on the screen.

Originally posted by willofthewisp
As far as I'm concerned, no death is "confirmed" until we see it on the screen.

i quite agree.


its not over till the hott pirate kisses the girl.

damn skippy.

This means that there is always hope for Jack and Liz until we see the movie.

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Originally posted by katelovespirate
i quite agree.


its not over till the hott pirate kisses the girl. yes to the first,yes to the second,but only as much as she doesnt try to kill him AGAIN!

Will's totally going to kill Elizabeth..I know no one believes me but i BET he does..Its not going to be accidental..he's going to do it with intent..

people didnt believe me when I said Jack sparrow needs/wants love in to be truly happy and free in life..and I was somewheat right about that..months ago

ok I'll stop boasting..

i dont think so!!

I think SO!

trust me..who oever stabs that heart will be the very man who kills Elizabeth..so watch out for it..it will happen before it happens to her. Will has been set up to stab it.

When they are fighting on the wheel over the key(as soon as jack gets it he falls into a grave and gets pulled out which is what we will see in movie 3)..Jack saves it from Will who has it on the end of his sword..Norrington will probably die protecting Liz..

woah when did we decide liz was dying?

i'll only approve that if they bring her back. lol.

no way!!

they will..Tia Dahma probably will bring her back

believe me Disney aren't afraid of adding death into their movies..hello bambi?? mufasa lol..

yeah, thats true

Norrington will die to protect her from Will..it will be his way of redeeming himself after killing her father

and Jack will be the one who actually saves her..but it might be too late and this is where Tia comes in and offers Jack immortality..you know what happens with the Odyseus and Calypso

Calypso tried to make Odysseus HER champion in the Odyssey..but all she was doing was making him love Penelope even more and he began to hate his old way of life all the more..he wanted to get back to Penelope.. Calypso underestimated the FEMALE in the equation when it came to Odysseus..I think Tia/Calypso is doing the exact same thing when it comes to Jack and Elizabeth

this is just me guessing here folks

its good

okay i could see that... plausible theory.

but for Jack to bring her back he would have to convince Tia... how would that work out?!

idk

No all odysseus said was NO to immortality..and Calypso helped him return home..

So i think that All jack has to say is NO to Tia and she will help bring Liz back to him..

but then there was another god who intervened to make Calypso send Odysseus home..so maybe Davy will come and make her do the same..

So is Barbossa immortal?

Does being brought back by Tia make you immortal?

Cause how else would Davy Jones be immortal?

And then how does Will end up?

Never ending questions...

Davy Jones is a sea god..he always has been i think..thats why he was with Calypso in the first place..He's supposed to resemble Posiedon in the Odyssey I think..Posiedon has one MOTHER of a grudge against Odysseus lol but in the end he lets the grudge go so that he can return home..

Perhaps Davy will allow Bill to leave to be with Will..after all he makes friends with Will in movie 3..I think that Will is going to be given the chance to forget about everything that has happened (that hut scene with tia and the drinks) resembles Circe the witch handing out drinks to make people forget their pasts and Jack..

everyone drinks in that hut but Liz and Jack..

and that is exactly what happens in the Odyssey..one person doesnt drink..he goes running back to Odysseus who was absent from the scene just like Jack was..I think its going to repeat later on where everyone is offered the chance to forget. about Jack and return to married life etc..but Liz wont want to forget Jack IMO..and Jack wont want to forget Liz.this is STILL just a theory of mine though lol

Its obviously Tia who created this whole thing BTW where Jack and Liz started to fall for one another..it would have happened any way but I think Tia moulded it to fit what she wanted.. because she wants Jack to be her equal and th only way to make hima champion is by having the woman he loves there to MAKE him one(end of DMC)....but in the end I doubt he will agree to be an immortal with Calypso (calypso in the odyssey also underestimated the woman in the equation)..and by this time the characters would have fallen for eachother..and I doubt they will want to go back to how things were..despite it all being set up by Tia(possibly Beckett too) in the first place..

jack/liz

hmmmmm yes i could see that tia and beckett had possibly made an alliance, just because i think beckett HAD to have made an alliance with SOMEONE, or he wouldnt have gotten there in time for the wedding or had such a planned out entrance, ya know? He HAD to know what was going on prior to getting there.

I also think the fact that Elizabeth didn't drink the mug is VERY significant, because they mention that important clue on nearly every website/review/summary. it must mean something, whether it be that there was something in the drink, or merely foreshadowing that Liz is not just going to swallow everything tia says as the truth. That Liz alone will be outside the realm of Tia's influence/manipulation.

or it could just mean that Kiera wasnt thirsty at that moment. LOL.

Yes I agree with you^ I think its going to symbolize something later..where everyone is given the chance to forget about Jack..its really similar to Circe the witch etc..

Theres a really interesting post on how Odysseus learns to be a better man because of what Calypso makes him do..she thinks she is making him want her in the long run but he actually learns to change as a man for the woman he loves..and he has all the more reason to return home to her..

Beckett definatley seems to have made a deal..I really do think that if Will/Liz stick together then they will die at the hands of the EITC they will persih..because beckett has obviousy been told that they are a threat to him in the future or something..and the EITC DID eventually win so I dont think its going to be about the goodies winning over beckett so that they can be married by the end of it..they will DIE if they marry/end up together the narritive makes it very clear in DMC

And Tia's end of the bargain is gettin Jack to be her immortal and the only way she can do that is if she gets Liz in his life..she's the woman Tia already knows he's in love with..and she is what will transform him into the right kind of man for Tia..but Tia is underestimating Liz..BIGTIME..just like Calypso did in the Odyssey..

If Jack becomes immortal it means beckett wins..Jack will completley be out of the picture..Jack is the most threatening pirate to him IMO..and if Jack can be removed from the equation then Beckett wins there..but I dont think Jack will accept immortality..no way..cuz no one wants to see Jack die..and just end in an unhappy way like that..its not bittersweet its just sad lol

Jack will change to fit the future or he will persih..but it wont be immortalty he accepts..It will be a life with Elizabeth he accepts to be with IMO..

i just watched a clip of interviews where the writers basically said Will is going to turn full pirate by 3. its actually from dead man's chest interviews. its really interesting. check it out:

http://movies.go.com/trailer?cid=747854&vid=841867

cool

hahah too true.....but i dont think she will want to do that again...hopefully she realized that huge mistake she made and wont try to kill the sexiest man alive again

if she does, ima ---- her!

yes

stupid Keira

WOAH HOLD EVERYTHING....

i like kiera. she is cool.

we have established that she didnt really want to kill Jack.

So lets stop the hating!

as i have explained so many times b4 i dont only hate her 4 kissing and trying 2 kill Jack, its other reasons 2

yeah but never said those reasons...so plz do tell

what was wrong with her kissing Jack? that was the hottest kiss in movie history, plus it was essential to character development, plus it was essential to the plot, plus it was freaking gorgeous.

and she didnt kill him. the kraken did.