To ANALYSE or NOT to ANALYSE...THAT is the question...
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T.Maria
So its come to my attention that every thread i go on, theres always SOMETHING to analyse, or SOMETHING to talk about...
You know what???
Ive been analysing and discussing on this forum since July...thats a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time !!!
So im not doing it anymore!
Im going to come here on this thread and talk about POTC in general...post pictures, talk about quotes...talk about characters....talk about what i like...talk about what i dont like....
SOD IT!
-i'll even talk about stupid bloody will!!!!!!
WHO'S WITH ME?!?!?!?!!??!

T.Maria
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/t_potcdmc466m_b1ce26b.jpg
^^^loving it!!!!!!
T.Maria
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/t_orliandhjm_96c1872.jpg
^^ Awwww!!!!!!!!
T.Maria
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/t_Piratesofthm_acd4eed.jpg
^^^
EURRRRRRG!!!!!!!!!

hehe
T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/28/t_tshirtm_ddf62a1.jpg
^^^ I WANT ONE!!!!!

T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/28/t_keiraknightm_f427ca3.jpg
^^^ How pretty is she?!?!!?
**Wishes she were keira lol**
Surreal_44
Oooh, I have fun photos to share. But not at this computer, darn it. I will post them later. Assuming I can figure out how to post up pictures in my posts....
Help??
T.Maria
woohooo
use
www.picoodle.com
upload them from your computer and the paste the image code into your message box
So much fun hehehe!!

T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/28/f_sv163iym_972f7c4.jpg
^^^ Keira in a fight scene?????
T.Maria
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/f_41843322crom_6825466.jpg
What he's thinking:
Damnit...I wonder if anyone can tell that i have TWO glass eyes?!?
T.Maria
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/f_piratesm_56582b3.jpg
^^ I need a little help with this pic, folks...
It LOOKS like its from DMC...but we dont actually have a scene in DMC where jack walks upto liz on the beach to see the compass....
Surreal_44
I believe it's from the bit that was cut from DMC. Elizabeth, Jack and James are walking along the beach. James and Elizabeth talk about the island being a plague island, Norrington has a fabulous line that Jack Davenport makes me melt with, and then Jack tells Liz to not fraternize with "the help". I think that's when he looks at the compass and gives James his shovel to carry.

T.Maria
AHA!!!
See, i would LOVE to see the deleted scenes...its just SO UNFARE that they didnt put any on the DMC dvd!!!
PirateDiva
I Know i swear the better have like a forth DVD...or a special Edition DVD with the Bonus Clips and Deleted Sceens for DMC after AWE comes out!!!
They Totally Jip us by not giving us Deleted sceens!!!

T.Maria
Originally posted by PirateDiva
I Know i swear the better have like a forth DVD...or a special Edition DVD with the Bonus Clips and Deleted Sceens for DMC after AWE comes out!!!
They Totally Jip us by not giving us Deleted sceens!!!
exactly!!
imagine how much money they would make...JUST from people on this forum! lmao!!!
i think they will...they did with COTBP........but i didnt buy that

does anyone know what was on it?????????
The lost disc???????/
Ericadawn
THIS!!!
http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i61/Ericadawn16/Norrington/Jackbackshot01.jpg
What a butt!!! (drools) Now I wish I'd bought it after all...
T.Maria
OMFG!!!!!
HES GOT SUCH A FINE ASS!!!!
Buttcheeks like peaches....damnit!! lol
siriuswriter
Wait a tick. What man IS that, so I may go out and find illicit pictures of him now?
ETA: have moved my eyes up and spotted the wig.
T.Maria
"The way you shake...i cant believe it...i aint never seen an ASS LIKE THAT!!!!"
**Hangs tongue out to drool openly at the primitively shaped buttox that she cannot help but want to squeeze between her lusty fingertips....**
is it possible to get a hot flush over a picture?!

siriuswriter
*looks at picture again.*
Yes.
T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/28/f_johnny8m_e134442.jpg
***Drools forever.........***
pirate179
depplicious!!! OMG
siriuswriter
Or, as Borat might say...
Verr niiiiiiice...
T.Maria
Originally posted by siriuswriter
Or, as Borat might say...
Verr niiiiiiice...
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/28/f_wboratm_73c1131.jpg
"Jagshemash! My name a Borat. I like you. I like sex. It's nice."
siriuswriter
Aww. I <3 Borat.
Can I make sexy time with the first picture now?
T.Maria
borat is my god

hehehe!!
siriuswriter
I loved how they were trying to get the "Jew cockroaches" away...
Oh dear. That was so bad, but so funny.
Chiki Mina
I haven't seen the movie yet.
But let's not change subject.
siriuswriter
You really should, Chiki.
Just be aware that most of the parts are so very... offensive. And you WILL be offended in some part of the movie.
Chiki Mina
Because im spanish?
jackismyboo
I havn't it seen either but all my friends say it is hilarious and kinda gross.
IheartPocky
I've heard about a certain disgusting scene involving Borat and another man...
Chiki Mina
Wrestling Match. I have seen some clips.
But what racial offensive do they have?
Ericadawn
Well, the whole movie was a satire which was cool, but I loved the fight, I laughed so hard!!!
Chiki Mina
My mom couldn't finnish the movie Borat....so I guess that's bad.
Im going to have to watch but something tells me I'm not going to like it.
But the must see movie is Little Miss Sunshine. Amazing, AMAZING, movie.
jackismyboo
yea i heard about the wrestling match they were wrestling but it looks different. I want to see it, i am way behind on movie watching
Chiki Mina
So far Borat is ok.
PirateDiva
LMAO...Mainly the racial comments are directed towards Jews.....its messed up, but super hilarious!!!
I was laughing so hard....and then there are moments where u just feel uncomfortable...lmao...like the Nuddy Wrestling Match!!
siriuswriter
Originally posted by IheartPocky
I've heard about a certain disgusting scene involving Borat and another man...
Um. Yes.
*shivers at the memory, then throws up a bit in mouth*
I actually had to look away, at my bestie while we were at the theatre. There were some people nervously laughing... and I kept looking back.
That was a mistake.
I'm scarred for life.
lovethemtigers
what happen to this thread...but hey..I like the concept...no analyzing..cuz my head hurts from analyzing for 8 months now too...
and we all know who we love Jack Sparrow, Mr. Gibbs and Norrington..well, I like the Norrington that was the step aside kind of guy at the end of POTC and the funny down and out guy ...but I don't like that he brought the heart to Beckett..that's just fool's errand...oh well...I have all the faith that James will find redemption...and realize what a butthead Beckett really is....
oh yea..we can post pictures here of our favorite things...i love this thread..
http://i12.tinypic.com/4cj4e3d.jpg
Surreal_44
Still not at home...but amusing drawing, so I'll share the link...maybe this ought to go to the fun pirate stuff thread...
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/41160124/?qo=4&q=Norrington& amp;qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3
A5
siriuswriter
haha... that's brilliant, Surreal!
Chiki Mina
Let's change the subject with Borat. I couldn't finnish the movie. Some parts were ha and some parts were uh.
Why do people like to use racial as comedy? So sick of it.
He is funny, too bad that he decided to use racial comedy to get attention...
T.Maria
He basically did the same with Ali G.
Personally I love borat, but i think thats just because of my sick sense of humour...
Each to our own, i suppose
Surreal, that pic was cool!!!
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/29/f_JohnnyOrlanm_a525745.jpg
^^^ I love this pic!!!

T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/29/f_depp4m_398a55e.jpg
And this one...check out keira's killer abs!!!!!!
*Looks down at own stomach*
Damnit...
lovethemtigers
Originally posted by T.Maria
He basically did the same with Ali G.
Personally I love borat, but i think thats just because of my sick sense of humour...
Each to our own, i suppose
Surreal, that pic was cool!!!
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/29/f_JohnnyOrlanm_a525745.jpg
^^^ I love this pic!!!
Johnny is sooo tanned and gorgeous in this pic...this was last years' teen choice awards...notice how Orlando has matured since Pirates 1...he's looks like a babe in the one of him, keira and johnny...
Ditte3
johnny looks great.really hot.
AudioHeart
Originally posted by Ditte3
johnny looks great.really hot.
AMEN
Exactly!

T.Maria
yeah, orlando has actually matured....
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/29/f_insideelizam_dbd8f0d.jpg
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/29/f_willm_be0b0fb.jpg
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/29/f_troyorlandom_6ee0731.gif
....but his hair style hasnt changed in like......3 movies?!

hehehe!!!
Kudo's to him though.
He knows that Will turner isnt the money maker of the pirate films and hes mature enough to laugh about it...which i find very admirable

lovethemtigers
yeah...it's funny how he mimmicks Johnny and says that on the girls on the set hardly noticed Johnny and were all after him....that is very cute...I do enjoy Orlando and Johnny..they look like good friends....
http://i13.tinypic.com/4boc85d.jpg
siriuswriter
Hah... I love how Johnny's still got his pirate teeth in there!
lovethemtigers
yes...that was the Pirates 2 Premier...he had to keep them in since he still had some filming for AWE left to go....johnny loves those gold teeth...he's very protective of Captain jack Sparrow....
Here's another great pic of Johnny and Orlando..
http://i14.tinypic.com/2rfg12s.jpg
Ditte3
wow.Great picture.They both look good.
T.Maria
The bracelet on his wrist!!
So cute that hes so comfortable with his sexuality that he wears bangles that his little girl made him!!
SO ADORABLE!!!

Ditte3
Johnny is sexy.He looks much younger than his age.
T.Maria
very much agreed, ditte3!!!!
to me he doesnt seem to have aged since nightmare on elmstreet....
*drools allover her keyboard*

PirateDiva
God I Love that man with all my being!!!! I Love Him I Love Him I Love him!!!!!
and yes the man could pass to be orlando age!!
Many times i see pictures of Johnny and Vanessa....even though Vanessa is like 10 years younger than him....she looks way older than him!!! I'm not hating but i really do see that!!!!
T.Maria
i see that sometimes too!!!
I wonder what his secret is?????
I mean;
he smokes
he drinks
he did drugs....
the man should be haggard by now!! lmao!!!
But instead, hes just a hott piece of johnny meat

hehehe!!
PirateDiva
I know....i really need to know his secret!!!!! He got some real good genes handed down to him...lol!!
T.Maria
i have a question;
does anyone know what his brother looks like???
T.Maria
http://img03.picoodle.com/img/img03/7/3/29/t_daddym_ce93a7c.png
http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/7/3/29/t_untitledm_76dc884.png
I did find this though.
i hope its ok to post this here??? I'll take it down if it isnt.
BUT ITS SO CUTE!!!
His kids are adorable!!!!!!!!
PirateDiva
Omg i know they are soooo adorable....that little boy is to die for!!! So Cute!!! Nad the little girl is sooo pretty!!

T.Maria
little blondies
My hair was that colour until i reached around 9...
Blond curly hair...and now i have to dye it to get it that colour
*cries!!!!*
lovethemtigers
OMG..I just love this man.....and he is so ...there is no way to explain him...he's not just handsome..he's beautiful, sexy and gorgeous all rolled into one...soft-spoken, quiet, edgy...the epitome of SEX.....
and yes it is awesome how he wears the jewlry his little girl makes him..she is always close to his heart...pity the guy that would ever break her heart....
Chiki Mina
Those kids lok like their mommy. God bless them.
lovethemtigers
they do...Johnny is so dark...dark brown eyes, black hair and those children are so blonde and fair like their Mother....
T.Maria
It cant hurt to have beautiful parents

hehehe!!
Sadly, im at the bottom of the gene pool when my mum and dad decided to get together....
ugly+ugly = uglier....
dont people learn??? lol
But OMG, those children are going to be heartbreakers when they are older!!!!!
Ditte3
Yeah those children are beautiful.Like their parents
lovethemtigers
Originally posted by PirateDiva
God I Love that man with all my being!!!! I Love Him I Love Him I Love him!!!!!
and yes the man could pass to be orlando age!!
Many times i see pictures of Johnny and Vanessa....even though Vanessa is like 10 years younger than him....she looks way older than him!!! I'm not hating but i really do see that!!!!
here is a pic of Johnny, his girl, Vanessa and the woman that gave him birth, his mother...I love how he refers to her as "my girl and my kiddies".....what a sweet man...tell me, what's not to love about this man......
this man is awesome, beautiful...eternally youthful looking...this is johnny at 40/41 years old!!! Unbelievable...
http://i11.tinypic.com/4c1124o.jpg
You know what...Johnny was known as a bad-ass trouble maker, druggie in Hollywood after his break up with Winonna...and then he takes a break in his career...then he goes to France and meets the girl of his dream...he become a reformed womanizer into a one-woman man, settles down and has children...and people say rogues can change...Johnnny and Jack parallel on that aspect....Jack's been a carousing hell-raising rogue...womanizing in tortuga...and yet, with Elizabeth he's met his match, possibly the girl of his dreams..so who says Jack, like his portrayer, johnny, couldn't settle down with a woman....the Pirates is reaching an end of an era...Jack can't keep plundering and running from the EITC forever...he must find a place in the new world or perish...I like one of the KTTC ideas...and Misty Pirate has talked about it....Jack and Elizabeth settling in Colonial AMerica and captaining blockade running ships for the Colonies......or something like that....

T.Maria
^^^ Such a nice picture!!!!
I love this man...you know, he just seems to get better with age....
I guess he had to become an icon at some point or another

And whats nice is that Vanessa has probably helped him do that....
Now there is family unity for you
P.S - Isnt vanessa like, really beautiful???
Very elegant looking

PirateDiva
OMG LOVETHEMTIGERS u r soooo right.....MAYBE thats why Johnny loves playing Jack so much because it sort of mirrors his life really!!! I Love it!!!! Johnny brought a part of him into Jack Sparrow and a part of JACK SPARROW stayed with JOHNNY!! Awwwww i Love it!!
Have u heard Johnny tell the story of how he meet VANESSA? It's really romantic really when he tells it!! But here goes!!
He said he was at a French Resturant Having Dinner. When out of nowhere across the resturant he saw a BACK with a beautiful neck (as he's telling that part he puts his hand up and looks just like Jack looked on the Island with Liz when he was saying what the pearl really is is freedom, like remembering the moment he saw her, he was mezmorized)....and he thought to himself...WHO IS THAT? and then she turned her head and from across the crowded room she made eye contact with no one but him...and thats when it hit him, HE FELL IN LOVE and he knew that was it...he was off the Market!!! <---Romantic isnt it?

*sighs*
lovethemtigers
Originally posted by PirateDiva
OMG LOVETHEMTIGERS u r soooo right.....MAYBE thats why Johnny loves playing Jack so much because it sort of mirrors his life really!!! I Love it!!!! Johnny brought a part of him into Jack Sparrow and a part of JACK SPARROW stayed with JOHNNY!! Awwwww i Love it!!
Have u heard Johnny tell the story of how he meet VANESSA? It's really romantic really when he tells it!! But here goes!!
He said he was at a French Resturant Having Dinner. When out of nowhere across the resturant he saw a BACK with a beautiful neck (as he's telling that part he puts his hand up and looks just like Jack looked on the Island with Liz when he was saying what the pearl really is is freedom, like remembering the moment he saw her, he was mezmorized)....and he thought to himself...WHO IS THAT? and then she turned her head and from across the crowded room she made eye contact with no one but him...and thats when it hit him, HE FELL IN LOVE and he knew that was it...he was off the Market!!! <---Romantic isnt it?

*sighs*
yes...very romantic...ahhh..to be Vanessa...what it must have been like to have a man like Johnny be smitten with you.....
Sifzensinril
yes, it's romantic
lovethemtigers
hey...guess what...made a special trip to Target tonight to check out the new AWE toys..and they were amazing. Especially the Combo Pirate Attack Package with Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann...and on the back it says "Is it love or hate between Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann.."....ummmm...I looked but I didn't see combo pack featuring Will and Elizabeth????Things that make you go humm????
On Will's doll box...it says something about him choosing between the love of his life or the father he's never known....
I was just so excited to see them.
I literally got teary eyed. That's insane, isn't it. But it just seems like we've all been through so much here at KMC the past 8 months. LIke the night the trailer came out...it was awesome...we were all on the edge of the seats..and even though we weren't with each other physically we were all with each other mentally...the minute i saw that trailer come on tv...I was like "OMG, I bet the girls are screaming their heads off right now"..and couldn't wait to get here and see what everyone was saying....
I just can't believe it's only two months away...
Minie Mina
54 days

lady_captinjack
^^^damn straight! im so excited!
PirateDiva
I Know what ur saying LovethemTigers....since im 3 hrs behind most of u I was sitting here @ the comp and someone announced it was on and i was "LIKE OMG in exactly 2 minutes there will be chaos in this forum" and i was like super excited and b4 u know it the responses came pouring in....AHHHHHHH!! It was exciting...i actually did feel like i was with u all, i actually started to cry!!!
This Movie is really going to be epic, beyond anyone's belief!!! I cant wait 54 days!!

jackismyboo
this mvie is going to blow us all away! any ship: sparrabeth, willabeth sparrinton sparrturner, norriturner, barbabth, monkibeth, beckabeth, beckabarb, sprarobarb and no matter what, this movie is going to be great!!!
The dolls are awesome, we have two packs with Jack and lizzie on them, well good for sparrabeth.
54 more days and i am so excited!!!
Mistypirate
Are the dolls on sale already? The jack and Liz ones?
jackismyboo
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
hey...guess what...made a special trip to Target tonight to check out the new AWE toys..and they were amazing. Especially the Combo Pirate Attack Package with Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann...and on the back it says "Is it love or hate between Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann.."....ummmm...I looked but I didn't see combo pack featuring Will and Elizabeth????Things that make you go humm????
On Will's doll box...it says something about him choosing between the love of his life or the father he's never known....
I was just so excited to see them.
I literally got teary eyed. That's insane, isn't it. But it just seems like we've all been through so much here at KMC the past 8 months. LIke the night the trailer came out...it was awesome...we were all on the edge of the seats..and even though we weren't with each other physically we were all with each other mentally...the minute i saw that trailer come on tv...I was like "OMG, I bet the girls are screaming their heads off right now"..and couldn't wait to get here and see what everyone was saying....
I just can't believe it's only two months away...
yup!! i want to go to Target now!!!!
Mistypirate
SQUEE!!

I'm going to def. buy them.. Have you guys seen the new wedding dress? they are selling it in Woolworth's UK. But it says it wont be available until May 15, I wonder why?

I'll try to find the link for that dress. Its totally different from the one Liz wears on DMC.
jackismyboo
woah!!! this is awesome!!!
Why sell in Uk now and not now in Us too? That is kinda sad. But hey at leats we still get them.
savvysparrow
So there is a marriage? That's interesting.
jackismyboo
yeah but i am still confused on who.
Mistypirate
Here is the little girls wedding costume, I'm sorry it says it wont be available until April 16, and it says AWE.
Here is the link..
I really don't know if theres going to be a marriage but this dress looks suspicious.
http://www.woolworths.co.uk/ww_p2/product/index.jhtml?pid=50844429
Mistypirate
Here is Elizabeth's dress in DMC
savvysparrow
Well, we've always known there was a rumored wedding somewhere during the course of AWE. But the question is where and with whom. I have theories, but none of them are conclusive. Imdb had Elizabeth listed as Turner, not Swann. So I'm guessing that is probably the direction that they're going.
jackismyboo
hmm that is interesting. Yay april 16!! Though i am a littel old to wear that but it is still cute!!
why would there be a 'wedding dress' costume from AWE? hmm and if you noticed no Will costume!!! It is suspicious.
Like your siggy Misty.
Mistypirate
IMDB

Hopefully they change directionss
Does anyone remember the Jack Sparrow wedding coat?
http://www.mercuryprods.com/MATILDA/piratecoats.htm
Try saving one of the red coats and look what it says..I had this link save. But if you try searching for it nothing will come out.
Thank you Jackismyboo.

savvysparrow
But what is that picture from? It looks like someone who specializes in making costumes for other people, not necessarily for the film. Not that I don't want to believe it, it just sounds too good to be true.
jackismyboo
Your welcome
Imdb are not always right. The only people who know are the cast of POTC and the writer of the book person.
Odd how Will becomes fishface, Jack has a wedding outfit and so does liz, then rumors about Liz and Jack. Who knows.
liz was enaged to Norrington, wedding interupted with Will and now the next person who loves her is Sparrow, they do say third time is the charm.
savvysparrow
And then there was Lovelyone's theory about Elizabeth's use of the wedding dress, and the whole "widowed before her marriage" line in DMC. I can see where she is going with that line of thinking, since essentially, if you're of the mind that Elizabeth's husband is Jack, that it sort of predicts the future.
She sends Jack to his death, and essentially becomes a widow before her marriage. Then, the line continues that the ghost is "searching for her lost love at sea". Ironically, we see Elizabeth go on a quest to search for Jack at World's end.
But, I will also say that the same information can foreshadow her relationship with Will. So things are still up in the air.

Mistypirate
Thats a promotional site, they don't specialize in doing costumes for the movies, they promote things for movie productions ect...
check out this link is also from mercury..
Basically they rent this location to shoot movies..
http://www.mercuryprods.com/Bali%20Hai%20Beach/beach.htm
Note that AWE was filming in Hawaii.
But I agree, everything must be taken with a grain of salt.
savvysparrow
Well, given the vein of the marketing, we've either been right this entire time, or they're marketing the J/E two pack in a clever rouse to throw us all off the scent. It's possible, not probable, but possible.
Unless the twist at the end of the movie is that Elizabeth jilts Jack on the aisle to run away with Will.
Mistypirate
That would be a screw up, and a kick in the a$$. But anyways that Jack Sparrow wedding coat sounds really suspicious to, why would they put that? Its just to weird..Although that coat looks a lot like the one Teague is wearing. Does anyone have that pic of Teague with that red coat?
savvysparrow
It looks a lot like the coat that Captain Hook is wearing. But I agree, what is their motivation in calling it the "Jack Sparrow" wedding coat? First off, how would they even know? Second, why would they put it on their website? It smells fishy. But maybe they didn't anticipate that the Potc fans are internet blood hounds.
jackismyboo
whoah i just thought of a theory...
Possible spoiler........
okay i remember this one site where this article was Johnny and Richard talking they went over there lines together to get chemistry in the movie and richard said a line about Jack and flirting with liz and we only see teague at the brethen and then the rumors about Jack and liz forced marriage and maybe teague gives Jack the coat to wear. Anyway i know it is lame but it kinda makes sense in my head.
Mistypirate
Originally posted by savvysparrow
It looks a lot like the coat that Captain Hook is wearing. But I agree, what is their motivation in calling it the "Jack Sparrow" wedding coat? First off, how would they even know? Second, why would they put it on their website? It smells fishy. But maybe they didn't anticipate that the Potc fans are internet blood hounds.
Here is the pic I found it

Its really similar to that one...
Remember the rumor about Teague marrying Jack and Liz? I think it was Lovely that brought it up. Although I don't think NOTHING will happen at the Brethren meeting between them. But I do to smell something really suspicious..
savvysparrow
Suspicious? What exactly do you smell?
savvysparrow
Here's the thing though. If Will dies in the way that people claim he does, and Jack has a hand in it, isn't Jack essentially choosing Will for her? That's what I don't understand. I was reviewing the quotes from the writers today, and one of them flat out states that Elizabeth's choice will not necessarily be made by her.
jackismyboo
hmm... this is interesting. Maybe Will having a kind heart will choose for her, like give her to Jack. the writers said she didn't hate her choice she just didn't choose her choice.
Mistypirate
Originally posted by savvysparrow
Here's the thing though. If Will dies in the way that people claim he does, and Jack has a hand in it, isn't Jack essentially choosing Will for her? That's what I don't understand. I was reviewing the quotes from the writers today, and one of them flat out states that Elizabeth's choice will not necessarily be made by her.
Yes you are right people are saying that is whats going to happen. But, I'm talking about the ending ending, there is something going on and things that don' t fit..
Mistypirate
Originally posted by jackismyboo
hmm... this is interesting. Maybe Will having a kind heart will choose for her, like give her to Jack. the writers said she didn't hate her choice she just didn't choose her choice.
But from what I heard Jack is the one that chooses for her..and they will end up marrying..The person is still sticking to that idea, but what happens after that seems to be a mystery.
savvysparrow
True, the choice that surrounds Will's fate my in fact not be the final choice that is made. And there is something going on because of the marketing.
You know what still doesn't fit? The whole immortal Will and Elizabeth, Jack sails off to the find the fountain of youth. For that matter, the whole marriage ceremony between Will and Elizabeth? It doesn't seem like they're together until the very final fight scene, and then we all know what happens to Will. So when do they have time to get married?
savvysparrow
Originally posted by Mistypirate
But from what I heard Jack is the one that chooses for her..and they will end up marrying..The person is still sticking to that idea, but what happens after that seems to be a mystery.
Ok, if that happens, then we can maybe incorporate some of the rumors. Such as Jack and Elizabeth marry after the whole debacle with the flying Dutchman. They settle on their island together, and have a child. Will comes to visit them (hence incorporating the Hawaii/Dominic rumors) and though he is immortal and knows that one day Jack and Elizabeth will perish, there is hope because he can look after their son. Maybe, he decides to take the boy with him on their many adventures.
Or maybe Jack and Elizabeth marry, decide it's not for them, and Will comes back after ten years to find the marriage in shambles; Jack has taken up drinking, Elizabeth has let herself go.
Mistypirate
Originally posted by savvysparrow
True, the choice that surrounds Will's fate my in fact not be the final choice that is made. And there is something going on because of the marketing.
You know what still doesn't fit? The whole immortal Will and Elizabeth, Jack sails off to the find the fountain of youth. For that matter, the whole marriage ceremony between Will and Elizabeth? It doesn't seem like they're together until the very final fight scene, and then we all know what happens to Will. So when do they have time to get married?
You know savvy that Fountain of youth ending sounds like crab to me, that same person is saying that is going to happen but doesn't know for sure.
Another thing is that scene where Liz tells Jack "it wouldn't have worked between us". I think that is towards the end, Liz looks like she is saying good bye to everyone. Look at everyones expressions they look sad and tired but relax, it looks like they fought the big battle and the won. Liz also has a big cut on her left cheek. Could everyone be sad because Liz is leaving? Maybe..I heard a rumor that at some point in the movie Liz gives the pirates a speech and motivates them to fight. Notice that part in the trailer where she turns around and all the pirates are raising their swords, so that could be it. I'll post a cap.
Anyways, Will is not on that scene where could he be? and where is Liz going? She doesn't look like she is getting ready to go to her wedding.
savvysparrow
Originally posted by Mistypirate
You know savvy that Fountain of youth ending sounds like crab to me, that same person is saying that is going to happen but doesn't know for sure.
Another thing is that scene where Liz tells Jack "it wouldn't have worked between us". I think that is towards the end, Liz looks like she is saying good bye to everyone. Look at everyones expressions they look sad and tired but relax, it looks like they fought the big battle and the won. Liz also has a big cut on her left cheek. Could everyone be sad because Liz is leaving? Maybe..I heard a rumor that at some point in the movie Liz gives the pirates a speech and motivates them to fight. Notice that part in the trailer where she turns around and all the pirates are raising their swords, so that could be it. I'll post a cap.
Anyways, Will is not on that scene where could he be? and where is Liz going? She doesn't look like she is getting ready to go to her wedding.
Where does she go? Obviously, if Will dies, she's not exactly going to be open to the idea of Jack wooing her. She'll probably want to be alone, but where will she go?
The Fountain of Youth story was from the script review posted by Latino review or something like that, which Disney eagerly removed soon after it was posted. It said something to the effect of characters get married, die, become immortal, and some characters are left worse off than where they started in the first film. Also, they mentioned the whole quest for the fountain of youth as a possible set up for a fourth film.
Mistypirate
Originally posted by savvysparrow
Where does she go? Obviously, if Will dies, she's not exactly going to be open to the idea of Jack wooing her. She'll probably want to be alone, but where will she go?
The Fountain of Youth story was from the script review posted by Latino review or something like that, which Disney eagerly removed soon after it was posted. It said something to the effect of characters get married, die, become immortal, and some characters are left worse off than where they started in the first film. Also, they mentioned the whole quest for the fountain of youth as a possible set up for a fourth film.
So it was removed?? mad2 This is upsetting when was that posted, how long ago? This is really upsetting..that makes sense, that the some of the characters are going to beleft where they first started in cotbp. Look at Gibbs in the trailer, his back in Tortuga. And it looks like he is saying good bye to Jack.. I really really hope they don't pull out a crap like that.
savvysparrow
I thought I remembered it stating that characters get married, but I guess I was making that part up.
Here's the link if you want to read it.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?t=495952
Mistypirate
Thank you savvy, yes it says that some characters do get married..
I don't know what to think? Who could they know about that? Maybe it was an early draft or something..
jackismyboo
spoiler if ya havn't read the 36 pg script:
i think it was in the beginning it said they brought a hooded figure to Sao that was the 56 page script in the 36 sao brought them Turner
savvysparrow
They did say that it seemed as though it was an early draft in the review. And since this was written in November of last year, I would wager that they probably didn't have the most recent version of the script.
And to put together what we already know: we seemingly know who will die, and become immortal, though the quote implies more than one person becomes immortal.
As far as the marriage goes, it's hard to say which direction it will lean. If there is more than one character that becomes immortal, then I think we know who will be joining Will.
savvysparrow
Originally posted by jackismyboo
spoiler if ya havn't read the 36 pg script:
i think it was in the beginning it said they brought a hooded figure to Sao that was the 56 page script in the 36 sao brought them Turner
That's right! So it was an old draft. Excellent. But the writers did say that not a whole lot has changed from basic outline of the plot in terms of the 56 pager.
So the elements are there, but the details have changed.
Mistypirate

Jack? Hope not..
Have a good night girls Im off to sleep, I'll talk to yous tomorrow Night.

jackismyboo
Good night!! sweet dreams!! give kisses to Johnny for me!!! lol
I thought Elizabeth.
Surreal_44
Savvysparrow wrote:
I think they get married during the battle sequence.

That'd be so cool. However, I do think that Will and Elizabeth are together before then. I'm fairly sure Will is present when Calypso is released or called upon, and I believe that happens fairly soon after or during the pirate gathering.
Eh, who knows? Only the director and the writers at this point.

jackismyboo
Get married during their batle...uh...that would be cool i guess but who is going to marry them, i mean everybody else is battling EITC or Davy and crew so who could marry them?
When Will ask Elizabeth to marry him I think he means before he stabs the heart so he can be married before he dies or becomes immortal. The kiss in teh battle between them (W/E) from my point of view was a good-bye kisss, you know near the end of the battle it is time to stab the heart so one last kiss before he become immortal kiss.
Mistypirate
Yep I can see that happening a marriage during a battle scene, that would be kick ass, who knows maybe Davy Jones or Calypso marries them.
Mistypirate
Heres the dress again, is from KB toys..
http://www.kbtoys.com/genProduct.html/PID/4736454/ctid/25/INstock/N/D/
aelizabeth
Is that supposed to be Elizabeth's wedding dress? Because if it is, it doesn't work out with the getting married on ship theory. Like, she wouldn't go below deck mid-battle to change into her wedding clothes, come back up, step over a dead pirate and say 'I'm ready.' And who would marry them? It would have to be the captain, and who's ship are they on during that scene?
It's beside the point, but I'm so jealous of Elizabeth's dresses. They are so detailed and perfect and beautiful. Even if they are anti-breathing. I always wanted a beautiful 18th century dress.
savvysparrow
Well, they could elope essentially, and then have a more traditional ceremony on land. Or since he's not allowed to go on land, they could have an official ceremony after the battle has run its course. It seems like an awful lot of work, but they didn't actually get to go through the ceremony the first time.
Minie Mina
Alright, I'm a bit lost right now with the dresses and costumes.
savvysparrow
Lost about what? These are supposed costumes set to be released as AWE mechandise. Meaning that there is supposedly a wedding. Also, there is that red coat floating around online that the costuming company has listend as 'Jack Sparrow's wedding coat'. There's no proof of anything yet. We were just discussing.
Minie Mina
Oh, right!
The rumor of the wedding costume for Jack has been floating around for a while. People are trying to take a crack at it but it's a little confusing.
I heard there was a wedding or someone getting married, but who with who? Do we even know if it involves with Liz?
savvysparrow
There's a marriage we know about that doesn't necessarily involve Elizabeth. But there must also be another one we don't necessarily know about because of the wedding costumes that are being sold. There was always the rumor that Will and ELizabeth finally get married mid movie.
Minie Mina
I know, that rumor was a bit confusing. And Barbossa was the one who's going to marry them.
I'm not sure, there are things that doesn't seem the way it looks. Maybe I'm just hallucinating.
savvysparrow
It's too early to tell really. We're basing what we know about rampant rumors, early screen plays, bits and pieces of a trailer that's meant to entice rather than inform. Also, we can't set too much stock in the marketing because that can be meant to be misleading as well.
Minie Mina
We already saw the scene where Will proposes to Liz. So if Barbossa was to marry them like the rumor says, then it would be silly of seeing Barbs appear out of nowhere:
Will: Will you marry me?
Liz: I don't think this is the best time.
Barbossa: *BLING* do you, Will, take her as your wife?
Will: I do--where do you come from?
Barbossa: Do you, Liz, take Will as your husband?
Liz: I do..?
Barbossa: I pronounce you bla bla--gotta go I'm in a middle of a battle.*BLING*
savvysparrow
Well, you have to remember that Elizabeth is essentially a Captain. I'm not sure it's particularly legal, but who's to say that she wouldn't be able to officiate the ceremony.
To me, it doesn't sound particularly practical. If they marry it would be after the battle is over. I think they decide that if they survive the battle, they'll marry one another. But a wrench is thrown in the wheel when Will becomes immortal.
Which brings me to two things that the writers have said about the situation. The first is that Elizabeth's decision will not solely be her decision. We know this is the case for two reasons, one: Will is wounded and is essentially forced to become the Captain of the Dutchman by Jack or die. He chooses the later. So in a way, her decision is significantly impacted by both men. Jack essentially chooses Will for her by sparing his life. Also, the writers said that if the triangle is written correctly that the fans should be divided. That by the time the movie is over, one side of the fandom would join the other in applauding the "MOST CORRECT CHOICE."
Not the best choice, not the right choice, but the MOST CORRECT CHOICE. I've always looked at those words in terms of character, but now I think I want to look at it in terms of plot.
In terms of what we know about the resolution of the battle, who then is the most correct choice?
The wording of that is interesting to me.
Minie Mina
The writers have a way to tease us with info

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I just don't want to jup into conclusions with the suppose Jack wedding coat. I love the idea but I don't want to get my hopes too up high in jumping into conclusion and falling flat on my face.
savvysparrow
Ha, no. You're very wise to do so. It's better to remain on the fence so to speak. I agree completely. When it comes in internet rumors, it's better to take it with a grain of salt and a pair of crossed fingers for hope.
Minie Mina
I'm a proud Sparrabether, but I'm keep me feet very well placed on the ground

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Internet, bah! We can do our own analyses.
lovethemtigers
Originally posted by Mistypirate
Yep I can see that happening a marriage during a battle scene, that would be kick ass, who knows maybe Davy Jones or Calypso marries them.
Misty..I just love your siggy....
anyways, any wedding between Will and Liz would not be kickass for me...ha HA...LOVE the part about Davy or Calypso marrying them..now that would be just plain funny, that.
I don't trust the internet rumors...jack's wedding coat...yeah, right.
I don't buy that one.
I'm not sure as to why toys and costumes are coming out having an Elizabeth Swann wedding gown...all pure white and looking more modern day in a way....just seems weird....ya know?
One thing that keeps baffling me though, is why is Disney promoting toys that make Jack and Elizabeth seem like a couple...Jack and Liz in the combo Pirate Attack Pack..."is it love or is is hate between Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann"....why is it in Disney stores...Mickey Mouse is "jack Sparrow" and Minnie Mouse is "elizabeth swann"..
who writes those comic books..they have the Disney mark, so they must be approved by Disney. The comic book really makes it seem that both jack and elizabeth are in love with each other.
So, what is one to think. Then we have this mysterious thing where t and t say that there is no love triangle, and if there is one it was resolved at the end of DMC. All so very strange.
I'm sorry I'm analyzing on the "analyze or not to anlayze" thread..can't help meself....
Ericadawn
Hehe, they also said there was a love pyramid for us James fans...
T.Maria
Wow, i go away for 3 days and there is already a mass of info to go through lmao!
Ok, my thoughts
Jack's wedding jacket:
Nah, i dont buy it.
UNLESS it was a wedding jacket for jack to wear whilst watching a wedding?
Elizabeths wedding dress:
I agree with Aelizabeth.
I dont think a wedding could be done during a battle, unless liz decided to go downstairs and change first? And i dont see that happening lol.
Was there a elizbabeth wedding dress brought out for DMC????
Lovethemtigers,
I have to agree with you that the combo pack and the mickey and minnie mouse thing DOES sound suspicious...
Disney must have something up their sleeves if they are promoting AWE in this way...(unless they feel that Jack/liz ups the promotion of the film, rather than will/liz...)
Damnit, im analying on my thread that i promised myself i wouldnt analyze on lmao!
Oh well....if you cant beat em ...

hehe.
Yes, TnT said that the triangle could be more or less solved by the end of DMC....
So if you look at that from AWE point of view,
you could see it like this;
Will stabs the heart and becomes the captain of the crocodile machine, and liz chooses will...but she knows that she will always hold something for Jack, and jack knows that too.
They said it was going to be "bittersweet"....and what is more bittersweet than choosing one man you love over another man that you have very strong feelings for???
Damnit!!
**Bangs herself over the head to make herself stop analyzing**
Mistypirate
Originally posted by lovethemtigers
Misty..I just love your siggy....
anyways, any wedding between Will and Liz would not be kickass for me...ha HA...LOVE the part about Davy or Calypso marrying them..now that would be just plain funny, that.
I don't trust the internet rumors...jack's wedding coat...yeah, right.
I don't buy that one.
I'm not sure as to why toys and costumes are coming out having an Elizabeth Swann wedding gown...all pure white and looking more modern day in a way....just seems weird....ya know?
One thing that keeps baffling me though, is why is Disney promoting toys that make Jack and Elizabeth seem like a couple...Jack and Liz in the combo Pirate Attack Pack..."is it love or is is hate between Jack Sparrow and Elizabeth Swann"....why is it in Disney stores...Mickey Mouse is "jack Sparrow" and Minnie Mouse is "elizabeth swann"..
who writes those comic books..they have the Disney mark, so they must be approved by Disney. The comic book really makes it seem that both jack and elizabeth are in love with each other.
So, what is one to think. Then we have this mysterious thing where t and t say that there is no love triangle, and if there is one it was resolved at the end of DMC. All so very strange.
I'm sorry I'm analyzing on the "analyze or not to anlayze" thread..can't help meself....
Thank you lovethemtigers..
No a wedding between W/E in the mist of a battle would not be kick ass..It would be a kick in the ass..And I don't think there will be a wedding during a battle. With people getting killed and guts splashing around?? Yes very romantic
The wedding gown seems really suspicious, the advertisement says is from AWE, Another weird thing I notice is that says, "As if you step right off the movie"

And those costumes won't be available until April 16? I don't want to jump in to conclusions. But that seems a bit to suspicious..
Those toys and promotional J/L merchandise have to mean something, I don't think they are doing it just for pure enjoyment and fun..Come on!

T.Maria
Please note:
I have just told my little brother about the POTC dolls....
He is a seven year old, and has just told me that he wants the Jack Sparrow and the Elizabeth Swann dolls, so he can make them kiss eachother....
Enough said

hehe
Mistypirate
My 5 yr old nephew wants Jack to get the girl..He is a huge Jack Sparrow Swann and I asked him..Who do you want to get the girl?? And he said Jack!!.

T.Maria
I think every little girl and boy across the world see Jack Sparrow as the hero of the film...
i wonder how they will react if the ending IS W/E???
My little brother is going to go nuts if that happens...
He's just told me that Jack needs to get the girl because he's funny and hes the best character...
Young minds are so simple....
oh, to be back there again

hehe
Mistypirate
I think they are going to be confused IF it ends W/E. Everyone sees Jack as the main character no matter how heroish Will tries to be.(LOL new word)
The young ones are smart, heck they are sometimes even smarter that us. Have you seen "Are you smarter than a 5th grader"?
Anyways, they see understand the movie very well, they know whats going on..
I wish I could go back to those days, the best times of my life..

Minie Mina
I'am in those times still lol. I still act like a kid.
Ditte3
There must be a kid in every one of us.

lovethemtigers
my 8 year old son is also rooting for Jack to get the girl...I can't ask him to many questions, he gets frustrated with me at times. he's like "not again"...but I just try to get inside his brain and see how he sees the movie, through an 8 year old's mind......he thinks Jack and Elizabeth are just the same....and Will is different he told me...when we were watching POTC on Sunday night..
lovethemtigers
I know..that would be hogwash if they were only promoting the J/E dolls together to capture the audience attentions.....because that would definetly mean they are just playing with our minds.....why, why would they do this...it has to mean something....but WHAT???
Ditte3
That wouldn't be fair if they would play with our minds and wouldn't bee too etical.Jack and Elizabeth are more exciting together.
Sifzensinril
life is not fair, so maybe they just want to know how many people likes Jack and Lizzie together...
T.Maria
its just so weird to think that the J/E saga began as a pipe dream for me...
i would sit there watching COTBP (the beach scene especially) and then i would watch the extra scenes just to see the chemistry between the two.
^^^ There has GOT to be a reason for why the peas in a pod scene became a deleted scene...
you know???
IF they never wanted the audience to even contemplate a jack/liz relationship type of partnership, then not only would they have not decided to leave the scene out alltogether;
they wouldn't have put it into the deleted scenes section in the first place! lol.
I can understand why they did though.
If nothing else, they just wanted to show us how alike they really are...they both have the same thing that drives them;
FREEDOM.
But i mean...if we werent supposed to get all of this chemistry out of them, then the director would have told them to play their scenes in a different way...
HELL, even keira is rooting for a sparrabeth ending!
And if the leading lady is counting on it, then god knows how badly all the rest of us are waiting!!!

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