Count Nefaria Vs Validus

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Ex11B
Who Wins between these 2 super-strong beings..

DarkCrawler
Who is Validus?

Never
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Who is Validus?

Here it is again (strongest in both Marvel AND DC):

1. Darkseid (on average)/Thanos/Doomsday/Despero/Kurse/Agogg/Pre-Crisis Kryptonians/Byrne's Gladiator/Morg w/ WOL/ Post-Crisis Mongul(under his best depictions)/The Hulk (angry far beyond most of the time)/Brimstone/Validus/Surtur (on average though he varies wildly)/Jurgens Mangog

2. Count Nefaria/original strength Abomination/The Maestro (base)/The Juggernaut/The Hulk (very angry)/Ultron/Superman (Loeb/Casey/Schultz --- basically Supes during most of the Bergenza era)/Mr. Majestic/The Infinity Man/Mantis/Pre-resurrection Thanos/Apocalypse/Ares (DC)/Post-Crisis Mongul (on average)/Black Zero/Zeus (Marvel or DC)/Odin(Marvel or DC, not amping their strengths)/Highfather (not amping his strength)

3. Superman (Kelly/Jurgens/Byrne/Morrison/most pre-Bergenza writers)/The Hulk (normal anger)/Thor/Morg/Terrax/Firelord (when amping his strength)/Orion/M'onel/Legion Kon-El/Lobo/Steppenwolf/Captain Marvel/Kalibak/Namor (submerged)/Slig/Gladiator/Ulik/The Abomination/Wonder Man/Hercules (Marvel)/Ultra Boy/Cyborg Superman/Ikarus/Morlun

4. Etrigan/Wonder Woman/Big Barda/Powergirl/Namor (damp)/Martian Manhunter/Herakles (DC)/The Silver Surfer (amping his strength)/Vision at maximum density/current Teen Titans Kon-El/The Thing (I know I'll catch hell for this but I really beleive this is where Benjy is normally portrayed, damn the handbook)/Lightray/Nova (Frankie)/Air-Walker/Captain Atom/Grayven/Maxima/Malefic/The Rhino/Knockout/The Sandman/

5. She-Hulk/Titania/Supergirl (Matrix)/current Sensor/Orion (when he was younger, like around the age he was when The Hunger took place)/Kanto/Granny Goodness/Mr. Hyde/Dr. Doom/Kesel-era Superboy/The Vision (mximum density)/Thena

6. Mr. Miracle (on average, though he varies wildly)/Sersi/Circe/Ares (Marvel)/Thundra/Valkyrie/Venom/Dr. Octopus's arms (on average)/The Black Tarantula/Shathra

7. The Enchantress/Ghost Rider/The Scorpion/The Molten Man/Tigra (DC)/Hogun the Grim

Validus is in the bold writing.

Do notice that Thor IS comparable to Superman; that a quite angry Hulk is superior to Superman; that a quite angry Hulk is superior to Juggernaut; that Thanos in his original incarnation was on par with Hulk in strength.

Where would Sentry place, for example?

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