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The battle occurs in an barren open area.

Both heroes are going all out with no thought of the consequences to the surrounding area.

No civilians

No technology

No prep time

Who wins and why?

Discuss

what rogue?

Ms Marvel Powered Rogue

well imo storm still stands a chance she has more versitility. even though all rogue only needs one touch storm can keep her at bay. do you think she is invulnerable enough to withstand a huge lightning bolt??

Rogue will win this one. She's faster and she's taken Storm's lightning before and kept coming. I don't think she could hit Rogue with enough lightning to knock her out before Rogue reaches her. One touch and Storm's done.

People need to stop humping Rogue's draining powers.

Rogue would win because Storm gets knocked out easy. Not because of draining. Rogue's better off if she doesn't drain because it sends her crazy.

-AC

What difference does it make how she knocks her out? A win is a win, period. And absorbing storm wouldn't "send her crazy" anyway.

yeah it did, she absorbed storm and then saw thw world in a whole different aspect and she becamse crazy wanting more of storm

Rogue didn't go crazy when she absorbed Storm. After she took her powers she contemplated touching her again and taking more, but decided against it.

So we're drawing the conclusion that Rogue remains completely and utterly sane/calm when performing draining?

We both know she doesn't. So scrap it Desperate Dan.

-AC

She drained storm with absolutely no problem. That's the only person that we're concerned with on this thread.
I know you like to argue, but save it for when you've actually got a relevant point to make.

I spoke about Rogue, a person in this thread topic, so it was completely relevent. Countered again.

Next: I never said Rogue would lose, I just said she wouldn't win by draining because that's not how she wins her fights. She relies on her strength.

-AC

I remember back in the day when super heroes used to use their last resort as a last resort instead of right off the bat.

how faST CAN ROGUE FLY?? CAUSe storm won't just let rogue touch her

You aren't helping yourself Stormfront.

Storm can't just avoid things, it's a fight.

-AC

i know i'm asking cause is storms faster then she can avoid getting touched and can attack from a distance

Rogue can fly pretty damn fast. I wouldn't base the argument on whether one can catch the other.

Rogue usually absorbs people without going crazy. The only times that's not true is when she tries to absorb someone super powerful, like whatever mega ultra villain the X-men are fighting.

Yeah, like Juggernaut.

Ha...haha.

-AC

imo its pretty even- storm has more expierene in the air she said herself that its like her second home. i think storm is more versatile in a fight against rogue

One question, seriously.

Why do you either say Storm wins, or "It's pretty even"?

Genuine question.

-AC

because in most cases it is. if rogue gets close enough and hits her then its most likely over. storm can keep her at bay and most likely take her out. imo it is evenand storm wins 6/10 times

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Yeah, like Juggernaut.

Ha...haha.

-AC

Yeah, like Juggernaut. He's pretty damn powerful.

It's not though.

Just because it's Storm and you don't want her to lose, doesn't mean it's evenly matched just coz she can't win. Please learn this.

-AC

actually she has gone crazy absorbing a lot of peropel- check uncannyxmen.net and go to spotlight section and look at rogues absorbation section and a lot of people she either couldn't, gone crazy, or the other personality took over with her absorbing them

The vast majority of people she couldn't absorb were unusually powerful. Storm doesn't fit in that category. In fact, Rogue has absorbed Storm before. She didn't go crazy.

yeah we kinda established that. imo its even cause througth out storms history she has used her powe4s for a wide variety of affects most happening instantley- making fog, momentarily blinding someone, freezing people, frezing people just by a little to slow them down, creating hail, and more. all rogue can do is absorb powers, uper strength, and flight. even though those are good powers storm has more versitality in figths than rogue

Storm does has more options for an attack than Rogue, but unfortunately for her, none of them will do enough damage to keep Rogue from getting to her.

I can agree with that, Stormfront. Rogue isn't so invulnerable that Storm is incapable of hurting her. She did kill the Hulk, after all. Rogue is MUCH less durable than the Hulk.

In truth, I think this would be a harder battle for Storm than the Hulk because Rogue is so much more mobile. What she lacks in the Hulk's brute strength she makes up for in speed and her ability to apply a lot of pressure to Storm. Storm would have to act quickly and decisively to take out Rogue. Nothing less than a full powered lightning bolt would do it.

Good match, though.

On the other hand, Rogue smacks her once and she's quite possibly dead.

-AC

Which is a liability on Rogue's part. X-men don't kill, so Rogue would pull her punches on Storm. Because Rogue is invulnerable, Storm wouldn't have to pull her punches on Rogue.

If she were invulnerable her punches wouldn't matter. Pulled or not .

You are precisely right though. X-Men don't kill. Exactly.

-AC

well lightning can be higher than 5,000 degrees and i'm just wondering if rogue can withstand that?? she may be able to and she may be not but lightning can be a lot hotter and more powerful than this

Why can't any X-Men debate just come down to simplicity?

Always has to get into major technicalities.

-AC

this one has to because its close

Nothing wrong with explaining things. Bloodlust Rogue could kill Storm. Rogue in character would lose.

With or w/out bloodlust this battle would result in Rogue handing storm her ass.

That your unbiased opinion, Mr. Rogue Avatar?

Rogue will win...doy! she's kick ass like that

Um, people...like real, everyday, not in a comic book world people...get hit by lightning and live a decent amount of the time. I don't know how "hot" lightning is, but something tells me if John Doe can take a lightning bolt then so can Rogue.

Storm...versatile? Certainly. Enough so that she can slow down Rogue before she gets punched? Probably not.

-DM

imo storm wins- no person has ever been hit by the full force of lightning and when peoiple get hit by only like half the force of lightning they are hurt pretty badly. but this is rogue and rogue is invulnerable, but i don't think she can stand a full blast of lightning which can be way over 5,000 degrees. but this is jst my opinion