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Hehe, ok, this may seem odd at first, but hear me out cuz I think this could be an interesting cross-over battle. I see Blade and Deadpool, 2 of, if not THE best Marvel swordsmen having to engage in a lightsaber duel with the father and son Jedi masters. Blade and Deadpool will have Jean Grey on their side in hopes that her telepathic/telekinetic abilities can counter the Jedi force attacks.

Both sides receive 1 month to train. Jean Grey does NOT receive a lightsaber.

Who wins?

Jean Grey telepathy and telekinesis are far above the low level tk and telepathy the force grants it isn't funny. That being said Blade and DP win even with out her help since low level tk and telepathy isn't that much of an edge to begin with even if Jedi could use it in the middle of a battle with out having to stop an concentrate

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jean Grey telepathy and telekinesis are far above the low level tk and telepathy the force grants it isn't funny. That being said Blade and DP win even with out her help since low level tk and telepathy isn't that much of an edge to begin with even if Jedi could use it in the middle of a battle with out having to stop an concentrate

Hehe, really? I haven't decided yet. I'd imagine some Starwars fanboys would like to counter the statement that Blade and Deadpool could win the lightsaber duel by themselves. I mean, from my own knowledge and from reading previous threads it sounds like Jedi masters are complete badasses. But like I said, I don't know who'd win yet

Jedi are badass but the Jedi's in the movies and the ones in the crazy dream world of Star Wars fanboys are two different beasts. The most impressive feat in Star Wars is something that puts Yoda in Robin agility/speed ball park... I mean all most every street level has multiple instances of moving so fast that there appears to be several of them on the panel.

Darth VAder Force chokes Deadpool and Blade. Then they beat the crap out of Jean Grey.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Jedi are badass but the Jedi's in the movies and the ones in the crazy dream world of Star Wars fanboys are two different beasts

as are movie versions of most comic characters compared to their original comics...... did you see the Captain America film? and Batman's 127 different martial arts styles in any of the Batman films?..... what about the Hulk???

if you take into account the book,comic and clone wars shows into this then no street level character can take a trained Jedi..... a telepath/telekinetic would be more interesting ....... Jedi have defense against mental assaults and as stated, even in the films, the force flows through everything..... a TK shield wouldn't help ........ then again i've never seen a Jedi fight a non-force weilding telekinetic...... could go either way with Jean but the 2 guys are screwed in a straight up fight

Originally posted by DarkMenace
Darth VAder Force chokes Deadpool and Blade. Then they beat the crap out of Jean Grey.

I knew someone had to favor the Jedi. Though I would love to see Blade yielding a lightsaber. Hell, Blade as a Jedi would be freakin' awesome.

Originally posted by Scoobless
as are movie versions of most comic characters compared to their original comics...... did you see the Captain America film? and Batman's 127 different martial arts styles in any of the Batman films?..... what about the Hulk???

if you take into account the book,comic and clone wars shows into this then no street level character can take a trained Jedi..... a telepath/telekinetic would be more interesting ....... Jedi have defense against mental assaults and as stated, even in the films, the force flows through everything..... a TK shield wouldn't help ........ then again i've never seen a Jedi fight a non-force weilding telekinetic...... could go either way with Jean but the 2 guys are screwed in a straight up fight

So you're saying Jean does help Blade and Deadpool in this fight right?

yeah, but if seh didn't they'd be screwed........ with her help it's a longer fight but Blade and Deadpool wouldn't survive...... it would come down to Darth V's Jean probably....... and that could go either way depending on how their similarly different powers interract......

hope we get a better showing of power in Episode 3

I see what you are saying Scoobless but the movie Jedi are the original versions and according to Lucas the only cannon versions.

Movie Version Jedi are bellow Marvel Street Levels, Comic Jedi are ussually below the Average Marvel Street Level as well (even Vader was injured by wild dogs), Clone Wars Cartoon Jedi are well above any Street Level Hero and EU Jedi (Extended Universe... being books and stuff) are also much, much stronger then street level heroes.

Jean could crush Vader with her TK. She could crush any of them with TK.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I see what you are saying Scoobless but the movie Jedi are the original versions and according to Lucas the only cannon versions.


yeah......... but those films were made in the seventies and the special affects were poor compared to today....... if they were made with the current tech the power use would have been a lot more impressive

I'm not saying the fight is definite, but I think some underestimating of the force is occurring. I'm kinda inclined towards the Marvel team cuz Jean could definitely help counter the force moves and Blade and Deadpool have their martial arts training to help them too. Do the Jedi have extensive martial arts training?

...but Episode 1 and 2 aren't much more impressive

Originally posted by Scoobless
yeah, but if seh didn't they'd be screwed........ with her help it's a longer fight but Blade and Deadpool wouldn't survive...... it would come down to Darth V's Jean probably....... and that could go either way depending on how their similarly different powers interract......

hope we get a better showing of power in Episode 3

Yeah dude, I read on a website a bunch of spoiler info on the movie and it looks like it's gonna be sweet.

SW Episode 3 looks good... it's just to bad the guy who plays Anikan can't act well enough to star in a porno

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
SW Episode 3 looks good... it's just to bad the guy who plays Anikan can't act well enough to star in a porno

LOL

I don't know if you guys know who this is, but Thomas Haden Church has been casted as the villain for Spider-Man 3,

Lord I just pray that Venom is in Spider-man 3!!!

Originally posted by azndrgn
Do the Jedi have extensive martial arts training?

yes, plus they incorporate their precog and speed/strength increasing force usage into fights.....usually does the trick

i doubt venom will appear in any of the films as he'd be awkward to explain to people who don't know the history...... more likely be electro or mysterio....... someone like that......plus harry goblin...... obviously

Originally posted by Scoobless
i doubt venom will appear in any of the films as he'd be awkward to explain to people who don't know the history...... more likely be electro or mysterio....... someone like that......plus harry goblin...... obviously

Man, the problems with all superhero movies is that they're made for the general public and the stories have to be altered to play to the ignorance of the general public who have no idea who these guys are. That's why, yes, I fear Venom may not make it into the movies even though I believe the die-hard Spidey fans would bring in enough money cuz Venom is a huge fan favorite.

This fight depends on what version of Jean Grey we choose.
If she can use some of the powers of Phoenix, Jedi are doomed.If she's the Jean Grey with only her powers, Jedi stands serious chance.
DP and Blade are great fighters, I like them, but the swords of DP and the titanium sword of Blade compared to Lightsabers are like a comb compared to a samurai sword.

Originally posted by K3VIL
This fight depends on what version of Jean Grey we choose.
If she can use some of the powers of Phoenix, Jedi are doomed.If she's the Jean Grey with only her powers, Jedi stands serious chance.
DP and Blade are great fighters, I like them, but the swords of DP and the titanium sword of Blade compared to Lightsabers are like a comb compared to a samurai sword.

Yeah, Jean Grey is non-Phoenix cuz we all know she's crazy powerful in that form. If you read the 1st post, I said Blade & Deadpool were given a month to train w/ LIGHTSABERS. Of course I know regular swords are crap compared to lightsabers! Shame on you!

Originally posted by azndrgn
Yeah, Jean Grey is non-Phoenix cuz we all know she's crazy powerful in that form. If you read the 1st post, I said Blade & Deadpool were given a month to train w/ LIGHTSABERS. Of course I know regular swords are crap compared to lightsabers! Shame on you! I just reply after reading the title of the topic.
Blade and DP with Lightsabers, I say they can own Vader and then manage to kill Luke.
JG can block luke with her telekinesis that even in her classical form is pretty powerful, throwing him chunk of grounds or objects she found on the battlefield, Vader on the other hand, he's a cyborg, and he's not powerful as he was in human form, so with LS, Blade and DP can kill him.

Vader is the most feared guy in his universe for good reason..... he will not lose a lightsaber dual to these guys

Hehe, sweet. Some actual debate going on for this thread

Not even a battle cause jen grey would kill them both by herself without the help of pheonix. With pheonix and they go running off before the fight starts.

The second team easy.

Lightsabers are, for all intents and purposes, basically plasma blades. Though possibly improved by the Jedi using them, we know from the existence of the Panarei that the lightsaber make matters. That takes it out of the game: Luke and Darth are using one, albeit impressive, type of weapon against opponents with veritable arsenals.

The Force may be strong with young Luke and Vader, but they've shown a pretty pathetic ability to incorporate Force into lightsaber battles. If Jean uses a combination of telepathy and telekinesis to keep Luke and Vader guessing, Blade slips in and out as he's wont to do and combines swordplay with weaponry, and Deadpool uses ranged throwing weapons, they'll win, though with at least one member dead.

Originally posted by ArekExcelsior2
Lightsabers are, for all intents and purposes, basically plasma blades. Though possibly improved by the Jedi using them, we know from the existence of the Panarei that the lightsaber make matters. That takes it out of the game: Luke and Darth are using one, albeit impressive, type of weapon against opponents with veritable arsenals.

The Force may be strong with young Luke and Vader, but they've shown a pretty pathetic ability to incorporate Force into lightsaber battles. If Jean uses a combination of telepathy and telekinesis to keep Luke and Vader guessing, Blade slips in and out as he's wont to do and combines swordplay with weaponry, and Deadpool uses ranged throwing weapons, they'll win, though with at least one member dead.

SIIIIGGHHH...I told you guys Blade & Deadpool get lightsabers, nothing else. People need to read the 1st post

Okay, Azn, missed that, but you must admit that even without lightsabers for everybody it's anyone's game.

Then again, giving a month to train with lightsabers might actually be NET WORSE because these guys are using weapons they're not used to. Why not just give them analogous weapons? Give Blade an enchanted weapon that can't be broken by a lightsaber, etc.

Look, Jedi may be intense psychics, but they're sword-and-sorcery psychics. They either use their psychic abilities or they fight with swords and some assistance (jumping, etc.) If they're stuck in a situation where they have to fight both, I think they lose.