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both .. in his best days... who would win?

Thing in his best... has beaten up Grey Hulk... he has not defeated him.. but he had a great time against him... sometimes even with Green Hulk he has good times

on the other hand... Hercules is a God ... he can be compared with the Mighty Thor... Hercules survived matches against the Hulk.... i believe even 8th day Juggernaut would be remembering .. a match with Zeus Son

i think Hercules is to much for Ben

immortal hercules will crushed thing in one page with good writing
10/10

Is Betzague William Shatner?

herc would kick the shit out of thing

Originally posted by capt it up
herc would kick the shit out of thing
I see your vendetta against Thing continues.


















Thing loses to Im. Herc.

Originally posted by Badabing
I see your vendetta against Thing continues.


















Thing loses to Im. Herc.



Capt has no vendetta against the Thing....Ben just kinda sucks.

Hard.

Originally posted by Soljer


Capt has no vendetta against the Thing....Ben just kinda sucks.

Hard.
I hope that I can forget your blasphemy.

Originally posted by Badabing
I hope that I can forget your blasphemy.



Me too.

Originally posted by Badabing
I hope that I can forget your blasphemy. You can't silence the truth.

Originally posted by Soljer


Me too.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You can't silence the truth.

He's cooler than any X-Men character out there.

Originally posted by Soljer


Capt has no vendetta against the Thing....Ben just kinda sucks.

Hard.
soljer right I don't have any vendetta vs thing. I like thing he just not that tough as some may think

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He's cooler than any X-Men character out there. I'm relatively certain that Thing is the representative character for ugly people.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He's cooler than any X-Men character out there.
I doubt that and there are plenty of x-men who kick his ass.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm relatively certain that Thing is the representative character for ugly people.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He's cooler than any X-Men character out there.

X-Men > Fantastic Four. In terms of characters, sales, titles, stories, AND power.

No contest.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm relatively certain that Thing is the representative character for ugly people.

Yet he gets a chick like Alicia Masters. I guess Ugly people kick ass.

Originally posted by capt it up
I doubt that and there are plenty of x-men who kick his ass.

Just because someone is powerful doesn't make them a well-written character. Look at Doomsday. He's flat out lame, yet very powerful. Ben's a complex character that's fun to read. He's an everyman character with a heart of gold. What's not to love?

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Yet he gets a chick like Alicia Masters. I guess Ugly people kick ass.



Just because someone is powerful doesn't make them a well-written character. Look at Doomsday. He's flat out lame, yet very powerful. Ben's a complex character that's fun to read. He's an everyman character with a heart of gold. What's not to love?
Logan character>>>>>>things. logan far more complexed and a better character over all

Originally posted by capt it up
Logan character>>>>>>things. logan far more complexed and a better character over all

Ha.


Ha ha.



Ha ha ha.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Ha.


Ha ha.



Ha ha ha.









.....

Thing DOES kinda suck....

And Logan HAS had much more character development over the years, mostly due to his over-popularity.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Yet he gets a chick like Alicia Masters. I guess Ugly people kick ass.Which only further serves my notion that he's the representative character for ugly people. Giving him Alicia Masters appeases the ugly constituent of Marvel readers. That is realpolitik.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which only further serves my notion that he's the representative character for ugly people. Giving him Alicia Masters appeases the ugly constituent of Marvel readers. That is realpolitik.



Sure kiddo. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Also, he's the ideal Blue Collar New Yorker. That's straight from the mouth of Stan Lee in an early interview about the Fantastic Four.

Should be similar to Namor vs Thing fight. Thing has a chance of winning... just nota very good one.

You guys can assign any label you want. Was Hulk created to appease green people? Thing has been around 40+ years and back then there was none of the bleeding heart, political correctness we have today. This pic illustrates Ben Grimm's greatest attribute.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/fantastic_four_416-25.jpg

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Ha.


Ha ha.



Ha ha ha.








are you laughing? Logan character has developed far more and is far more evolved unlike benny

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Should be similar to Namor vs Thing fight. Thing has a chance of winning... just nota very good one.

Thing really doesn't have a chance against Namor OR against Hercules. Even Mortal Hercules should demolish Thing.

Originally posted by Badabing
You guys can assign any label you want. Was Hulk created to appease green people? Thing has been around 40+ years and back then there was none of the bleeding heart, political correctness we have today. This pic illustrates Ben Grimm's greatest attribute. Lack of eloquence?

Originally posted by capt it up
are you laughing? Logan character has developed far more and is far more evolved unlike benny
Cap, that's your opinion and everybody is entitled to their opinions on characters and such.

Originally posted by Badabing
You guys can assign any label you want. Was Hulk created to appease green people? Thing has been around 40+ years and back then there was none of the bleeding heart, political correctness we have today. This pic illustrates Ben Grimm's greatest attribute.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j241/Badabing_2006/fantastic_four_416-25.jpg

He has heart, that's great.

But so does every other character in comics.

You don't think Captain America would sacrifice his life if it meant one child could survive? Much less his own Godchild.

Originally posted by capt it up
are you laughing? Logan character has developed far more and is far more evolved unlike benny

No, the smilies mean that I'm crying.


OF COURSE I'M LAUGHING!



and if by developed, you mean had one of the worst histories of continuity and flat out crap writing, then yes, he is well developed.

Originally posted by Badabing
Cap, that's your opinion and everybody is entitled to their opinions on characters and such.
ya and it seems to be an oppinion of most people unless they despise logan or are thing fan boys.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Lack of eloquence?
Maybe for a sophisticate like yourself. It's just right for a comic book forum.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No, the smilies mean that I'm crying.


OF COURSE I'M LAUGHING!



and if by developed, you mean had one of the worst histories of continuity and flat out crap writing, then yes, he is well developed.
crapp writting lol. the dudes had some fo the best writters in marvel for years. He had miller an amazing writter. His orignal run on logan was said to be one of the best comic run ever done. you are a fool. Logan character is far better then things. Why do you think he marvel second favorit hero? Yes logan crappy that must be why he the fans second favorit character of all times

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Lack of eloquence?

No. A lot of heart. Something someone of "scientific mind" such as yourself should understand.

Originally posted by Badabing
Maybe for a sophisticate like yourself. It's just right for a comic book forum. I'll take Emma Frost's sardonic wit over Thing's inarticulate garbling any day.

Originally posted by capt it up
ya and it seems to be an oppinion of most people unless they despise logan or are thing fan boys.
I didn't see anything bad posted about Logan on this thread.

Originally posted by capt it up
crapp writting lol. the dudes had soem fo the best writters in marvel for years. He had miller an amazing writter. His orignal run on logan was said to be one of the best comic run ever done. you are a fool. Logan character is far better then things. Why do you think he marvel second favorit hero? Yes logan crappy that must be why he the fans second favorit character of all times

Just because you have a good writer write one of your comics doesn't mean you're the greatest of all time. Neal Gaiman, Frank Miller, Todd MacFarlane, Alan Moore, Dave Sim, and Grant Morrison have all written Spawn, and he's not the greatest character of all time.

Originally posted by Badabing
I didn't see anything bad posted about Logan on this thread.
did I say there was? No I said most people say logan is a better developed character over thing. unless it is a thing fanboy talking or a wolverine hater

Originally posted by Soljer
Thing really doesn't have a chance against Namor OR against Hercules. Even Mortal Hercules should demolish Thing.

I was talking about Mortal Herc. and Grimm stands a chance agaisnt Namor just not a very big one.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Just because you have a good writer write one of your comics doesn't mean you're the greatest of all time. Neal Gaiman, Frank Miller, Todd MacFarlane, Alan Moore, Dave Sim, and Grant Morrison have all written Spawn, and he's not the greatest character of all time.
No how ever is spawn not about 10 times as popular as thing.


wait wait your really trying to argue that thing character his better developed yet logan is mroe beloved by far becuase of his edge.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
No. A lot of heart. Something someone of "scientific mind" such as yourself should understand. "Thing has heart." tends to be the mantra of people defending Thing. What? So all other characters don't? Spare me. You're getting rather ad hominem, it's just a fictional character, mein freund.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'll take Emma Frost's sardonic wit over Thing's inarticulate garbling any day.
What dude wouldn't? People are allowed to have an opinion about Grimm and state that opinion. I was joking with Soljer and ribbed Capt a bit before everybody showed up. I don't care if somebody doesn't like a character. These are comics gentlemen and not living people. Keep it in perspective people.

I find maverick bravery to be better then that of things

Originally posted by capt it up
did I say there was? No I said most people say logan is a better developed character over thing. unless it is a thing fanboy talking or a wolverine hater
Well, you brought Logan into a thread where there is no mention of him. Sounds like you are looking for an argument where one didn't exist.

Originally posted by Badabing
Well, you brought Logan into a thread where there is no mention of him. Sounds like you are looking for an argument where one didn't exist.
that was simply beign he said things character>>>x-men in which case I brought logan character up as beeing better then things which is true. I never ment in a fight I ment in a character's senses

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"Thing has heart." tends to be the mantra of people defending Thing. What? So all other characters don't? Spare me. You're getting rather ad hominem, it's just a fictional character, mein freund.

Mein gott! You know some big words. Actually, most comic lovers would put Ben's heart and determination above anyone. It's not that other characters don't have it. It means that Ben has a LOT more than they do. The Vox Populi of comic lovers respect Ben for it. If you don't, then good for you. You just accomplished the ability to deny what's in front of you.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You can't silence the truth. Originally posted by capt it up
soljer right I don't have any vendetta vs thing. I like thing he just not that tough as some may think Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which only further serves my notion that he's the representative character for ugly people. Giving him Alicia Masters appeases the ugly constituent of Marvel readers. That is realpolitik. Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Lack of eloquence? Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"Thing has heart." tends to be the mantra of people defending Thing. What? So all other characters don't? Spare me. You're getting rather ad hominem, it's just a fictional character, mein freund.
I can't get enough of college students. They know everything until graduation and the real World smacks them in the head. Some advice, nobody is interested or impressed with your linguistic legerdemain. The regurgitation from your word of the day calender is prosaic at best. Take your own advice and remember that these are comic book characters.

If Herc is drunk, Thing could probably give him a good fight for the first 5 minutes. After that Herc just owns him...

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Mein gott! You know some big words. Actually, most comic lovers would put Ben's heart and determination above anyone. It's not that other characters don't have it. It means that Ben has a LOT more than they do. The Vox Populi of comic lovers respect Ben for it. If you don't, then good for you. You just accomplished the ability to deny what's in front of you. Correction: People with an affinity for Thing put his heart and determination above anyone else.

Oh dear, you wouldn't be aligning yourself with unwashed masses would you. They're always wrong remember

Originally posted by Badabing
I can't get enough of college students. They know everything until graduation and the real World smacks them in the head. Some advice, nobody is interested or impressed with your linguistic legerdemain. The regurgitation from your word of the day calender is prosaic at best. Take your own advice and remember that these are comic book characters. I write how I write. It's how I've always written. I'd imagine you went and looked up obscure words like prosaic and legerdemain though. Which is ironic, to say the least.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Correction: People with an affinity for Thing put his heart and determination above anyone else.

Oh dear, you wouldn't be aligning yourself with unwashed masses would you. They're always wrong remember

General Consensus - Average Joe

Vox Populi of Comic Fans - Exactly as it sounds.

Please try to keep up. Or is your "scientific mind" too busy?

Originally posted by Badabing
I can't get enough of college students. They know everything until graduation and the real World smacks them in the head. Some advice, nobody is interested or impressed with your linguistic legerdemain. The regurgitation from your word of the day calender is prosaic at best. Take your own advice and remember that these are comic book characters.

X is an arrogant little bastard, isn't he? He just screams spoiled little rich kid.

Originally posted by Badabing
I can't get enough of college students. They know everything until graduation and the real World smacks them in the head. Some advice, nobody is interested or impressed with your linguistic legerdemain. The regurgitation from your word of the day calender is prosaic at best. Take your own advice and remember that these are comic book characters.

... Burn?

Funny that you climbed onto the same high horse you were trying to knock x off of though...

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
General Consensus - Average Joe

Vox Populi of Comic Fans - Exactly as it sounds.

Please try to keep up. Or is your "scientific mind" too busy? Originally posted by Howard_Jones
X is an arrogant little bastard, isn't he? He just screams spoiled little rich kid. Getting personal much?

Originally posted by Badabing
I can't get enough of college students. They know everything until graduation and the real World smacks them in the head. Some advice, nobody is interested or impressed with your linguistic legerdemain. The regurgitation from your word of the day calender is prosaic at best. Take your own advice and remember that these are comic book characters.
what the hell I did not do any thing all i stated was soljer was right

Originally posted by Soljer
X-Men > Fantastic Four. In terms of characters, sales, titles, stories, AND power.

No contest.

Sales, sure.
Power? Depends on the roster. And prep.
Titles? Yeah, but I'm not sure if a bloated # of ongoing titles is a good thing.
Stories? Debatable. Except for HoM, mainly because those worthless mutie bastards got wiped out.
Characters? Meh, can't mess with Stan's originals....though I agree evolution is a better explanation of powers than cosmic rays.

Originally posted by capt it up
what the hell I did not do any thing all i stated was soljer was right You used the word vendetta. 3 syllables or more and you're trying to impress people with your "linguistic legerdemain".

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Getting personal much?

Nope. Pointing out the blatantly obvious. However you take it is up to you, kiddo.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... Burn?

Funny that you climbed onto the same high horse you were trying to knock x off of though...

and he did that how? X's high horse is saying large words that he doesn't comprehend to throw people off. Bada's is telling the truth.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You used the word vendetta. 3 syllables or more and you're trying to impress people with your "linguistic legerdemain".
I'm Italian. We invented the vendetta!

Originally posted by Badabing
I'm Italian. We invented the vendetta!

I'm German. We take over Europe because of it. We commonly work with Italians in that aspect.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Nope. Pointing out the blatantly obvious. However you take it is up to you, kiddo. Originally posted by Howard_Jones
and he did that how? X's high horse is saying large words that he doesn't comprehend to throw people off. Bada's is telling the truth. As you so often hypocritically say, "Get over yourself." If you have some kind of personal problem with me, having been here all of 20 days and knowing my nature oh so well, don't spam the forums with it. Kthx.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
I'm German. We take over Europe because of it. We commonly work with Italians in that aspect.

Damn dude!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
As you so often hypocritically say, "Get over yourself." If you have some kind of personal problem with me don't spam the forums with it. Kthx.

Run on sentence much? Your "scientific mind" breaking down on you? Also, it takes a hypocrite to know one.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
... Burn?

Funny that you climbed onto the same high horse you were trying to knock x off of though...
At least you caught that. Nothing gets by you.

Okay, everybody listen. Xmark and I have debated before, we laugh about it and move on. Please, don't take sides or jump in the fray. It's only a friendly joust. Now, let's get back to the topic before anybody gets a warning for linguistic legerdemain and acting intransigent.

Originally posted by Badabing
At least you caught that. Nothing gets by you.

Okay, everybody listen. Xmark and I have debated before, we laugh about it and move on. Please, don't take sides or jump in the fray. It's only a friendly joust. Now, let's get back to the topic before anybody gets a warning for linguistic legerdemain and acting intransigent.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
and he did that how? X's high horse is saying large words that he doesn't comprehend to throw people off. Bada's is telling the truth.

...

I haven't seen 'X' use any words that a high school student in English Lit wouldn't know. Is he going out of his way to appear sophisticated? Maybe but I don't know. Either way you don't need to patronize him for exercising his vocabulary... or should say "verbal repertoire" since we are on the subject of sophisticated speech patterns?.

Originally posted by Badabing
Okay, everybody listen. Xmark and I have debated before, we laugh about it and move on. Please, don't take sides or jump in the fray. It's only a friendly joust. Now, let's get back to the topic before anybody gets a warning for linguistic legerdemain and acting intransigent.

Got 'ya

It seems somewhat ironic that people are discussing sophisticated speech in a thread about Hercules and Thing.

Originally posted by Badabing
At least you caught that. Nothing gets by you.

Okay, everybody listen. Xmark and I have debated before, we laugh about it and move on. Please, don't take sides or jump in the fray. It's only a friendly joust. Now, let's get back to the topic before anybody gets a warning for linguistic legerdemain and acting intransigent. Aww. I love you too. Let's never fight again.

Originally posted by Accel
It seems somewhat ironic that people are discussing sophisticated speech in a thread about Hercules and Thing.

OMG, Accel just comes in and pwns all of us with that comment.


Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Aww. I love you too. Let's never fight again.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
...

I haven't seen 'X' use any words that a high school student in English Lit wouldn't know. Is he going out of his way to appear sophisticated? Maybe but I don't know. Either way you don't need to patronize him for exercising his vocabulary... or should say "verbal repertoire" since we are on the subject of sophisticated speech patterns?.

Co-signed. I've never misunderstood X, nor has he ever made me whip out the dictionary. I think that he speaks very clearly, and very to the point. Which is more than I can say for most posters with incoherent syntax and idiotic half-speech.

That said....

Thing gets stomped, .

Originally posted by Soljer
Co-signed. I've never misunderstood X, nor has he ever made me whip out the dictionary. I think that he speaks very clearly, and very to the point. Which is more than I can say for most posters with incoherent syntax and idiotic half-speech.

That said....

Thing gets stomped, .
Oh, you're on the list NOW!

Originally posted by Badabing
Oh, you're on the list NOW!

Thing smokes him

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Thing smokes him


I hope I can forget your transgression before the tournament starts.

Originally posted by Badabing
I hope I can forget your transgression before the tournament starts.

By the sound of it,there are two things the thing is good for

1: the fantastic fours pack muel
2:ur masturbatory aid

First, learn how to quote somebody correctly. Second, that's sick.

As a tournament judge, I know I'll have the last laugh.

evillaugh

Originally posted by Badabing
First, learn how to quote somebody correctly. Second, that's sick. Don't pass judgements on Grimm22's life choices... dodgy. Different doesn't mean bad.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Don't pass judgements on Grimm22's life choices... dodgy. Different doesn't mean bad.

Originally posted by Badabing
First, learn how to quote somebody correctly. Second, that's sick.

As a tournament judge, I know I'll have the last laugh.

evillaugh



oh i doubt it will matter.i can be very convincing droolio if u catch my drift....

Originally posted by Martian_mind
oh i doubt it will matter.i can be very convincing droolio if u catch my drift....

What a rocky devolopment this thread is.

herc