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No holds barred fight to the death
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Discuss

Phoenix Force? Binary gets her ass handed.

Phoenix Force powers can look many cosmic beings look like nothing, Phoeinx easily.

Ok what if Binary had help from Thanos

She still loses. Badly. Thanos isn't touching the power of the Phoenix Force.

phoenix force is too much for binary maybe if it was a powerful phoenix avatar

wouldnt that be more fair

Yeah, she could take down Racheal or Jean, but The Phoenix? Hell no.

yeah

Galactus, Thanos, Binary, Ego, all together wouldn't be match of PF, Pheonix Force full powers are far beyond of those four combined.

thats why i suggested an avatar such as full powered jean

Phoenix Force is SO underrated. Some people actually believe that Superman Prime could defeat the actual Phoenix Force. Hah.

Galactus full power could give Phoenix a run for it's money. Galactus is the balance between Eternity and Death, I don't think the Phoenix can overcome a full powered Galactus. A normal or weak Galactus, she probably could.

Ok then. Phoenix 2(Rachel Summers) vs Binary no holds barred to the death

Sentry this has been debated so many times. Galactus has a higher status than phoenix debatably but he isnt a match for the full phoenix force. Phoenix 2 the weakest of the avatars has bested him twice without breaking a sweat. One time when galactus was hungry so thats understandable another time in excalibur a full powered galactus came to wrest the force from rachel and it wasnt within his power to do so. She beat him back and then knocked out his herald

Originally posted by Sentry
Galactus full power could give Phoenix a run for it's money. Galactus is the balance between Eternity and Death, I don't think the Phoenix can overcome a full powered Galactus. A normal or weak Galactus, she probably could.

LOL, like I said, full powered Galactus, Ego, Thanos, Binary,PF full power is far beyond those combined. Phoenix Force had the power to desotry galaxy, what is powelerss Galactus powers compared to that, literally absolutely nothing. Galactus trembeled before Dark Phoeinx.

The Phoenix Force is above Galactus, even on his best day. The Phoenix Force is the is the embodiment of the life/death cycle. All of the life in the universe is channeled through the Phoenix Force. It can do far more than destroy a galaxy.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
The Phoenix Force is above Galactus, even on his best day. The Phoenix Force is the is the embodiment of the life/death cycle. All of the life in the universe is channeled through the Phoenix Force. It can do far more than destroy a galaxy.

Agreed. It's not even worth that someonw is comparing Galactus PF.

ok so who do you guys think would win rachel or binary? i think after a long fight binary could win

Originally posted by cray z 4 sarah
ok so who do you guys think would win rachel or binary? i think after a long fight binary could win

Probably Rachel.

Yeah, I'll go with Binary too, unless Racheal can use the Phoenix more than I am aware, and she comes out blasting Carol with some serious PF power.

I think Rachel would win. Despite not being as powerful avatar as her mother she can still dramatically boost her telepathy/telekinesis to cosmic levels. She's bested galactus and his herald nova singlehandedly. I know she exhausted herself trying to save the sun but what other feats has binary done over the years to compare witha phoenix avatar?

Good points. Actually, Racheal can access more of the force than Jean could. I would say Racheal as well.

binary can create a whitehole which can dissintegrate matter i think shes more than a match for rachel

Theoretical Rachel has no upper limit. She also doesn't have full access to the phoenix and prob. never will.
Binary would prob. be able to destroy her Telekenitcs but her Telepathy might pose a serious threat. Still she has great defenses. Binary can open up space all around you and give you an attack you'll never forget.
I'd say Binary.

Originally posted by Xplosive
LOL, like I said, full powered Galactus, Ego, Thanos, Binary,PF full power is far beyond those combined. Phoenix Force had the power to desotry galaxy, what is powelerss Galactus powers compared to that, literally absolutely nothing. Galactus trembeled before Dark Phoeinx.

ya and glactus can't destroy Galaxies ?? lol
you know you stuff lol

i won't arguee who is stonger the Phoenix force or full powered Galactus.

adding other character doesn't help does it.

say we have Eternity vs Galactus , Ego , Thanos , Binary , Mu earth , Shiar etc they whould still loose with no effort what so ever.

A full powerd Galactus is a match for even the Phoeinx force.

Originally posted by kgkg
ya and glactus can't destroy Galaxies ?? lol
you know you stuff lol

i won't arguee who is stonger the Phoenix force or full powered Galactus.

adding other character doesn't help does it.

say we have Eternity vs Galactus , Ego , Thanos , Binary , Mu earth , Shiar etc they whould still loose with no effort what so ever.

A full powerd Galactus is a match for even the Phoeinx force.

Galactus doens't close posses the power to Galaxy (I am embarres to say that, to even mention that Galactus and galaxy), he enver proved that, not even close, his pwoers are nothing to Pheonix. Rachel, the wekest of avatr beat full powered Galactus badly, and now think PF ful power, Galactus would look joke.

Exactly how do you expect Warbird to kill Phoenix

she can create white holes

Originally posted by Xplosive
Galactus doens't close posses the power to Galaxy (I am embarres to say that, to even mention that Galactus and galaxy), he enver proved that, not even close, his pwoers are nothing to Pheonix. Rachel, the wekest of avatr beat full powered Galactus badly, and now think PF ful power, Galactus would look joke.

if you think so you don't know shit about Galactus .

During his battle with Tyrant countless Galaxy were destroyed.

read comics than talk son.

Galactus' power does pale to the full phoenix force. If we were debating over one of the weaker avatars the fair enough thats debatable. But not the full powered phoenix force. Watcher even say it at the end of the phoenix saga. The phoenix is the most powerful force in the universe. This was b4 beyonder and any new cosmics were created but galactus was very much around then. Take it from the word of the waycher. Phoenix is more powerful than galactus simple as. I hate repeating myself but its like people dont read previous posts before they contribute. Rachel the weakest of the avatars has bested galactus twice. Once when he was hungry so that was to be expected but the 2nd time he was fully powered and he came to wrest the phoenix from rachel by force. Rachel put him in his place. Then laid out Nova LMAO. The avatars can only draw on the force in limited amounts. The actual phoenix force would incinerate galactus

Originally posted by kgkg
if you think so you don't know shit about Galactus .

During his battle with Tyrant countless Galaxy were destroyed.

read comics than talk son.

I am disgusted man, Galactus doens't have the power to destroy Galaxy. I read comic and know that Galactus can't, (it's joke to say that even mention that) destroy galaxy. He is nothing to PF. PF would kill Galactus in few second, if PF would want that. And pretty much here they think Galactus is joke to PF powers.

Originally posted by Xplosive
I am disgusted man, Galactus doens't have the power to destroy Galaxy.

start reading comics. Then come talk he can't destory Galaxy ohh man.

you are so smart man nice facts there lol.

Galactus has displayed galaxy destroying powers. He is just below Phoenix in the hierarchy.
Originally posted by Thanos the Lord
Exactly how do you expect Warbird to kill Phoenix

This is Carol as Binary, not Warbird.