The One vs Wolverine/Spiderman

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carver9
This is Jet Lee...the One during the end of the movie (the villain).

the ninjak
Which Spidey?

Tobes slows him down enough for Logan to supply a killing. Heck he can do it on his own.

Garfield is in trouble.

KingD19
Logan isn't fast enough to land a hit on him. And as good as Toby-Spidey is, I don't think even he's fast enough unless I'm forgetting some major speed feats from the movies.

the ninjak
Originally posted by KingD19
Logan isn't fast enough to land a hit on him. And as good as Toby-Spidey is, I don't think even he's fast enough unless I'm forgetting some major speed feats from the movies.

Speed isn't everything.

Tobes hits the air. Grabs the highground. Unleashes webbing strong enough to stop the train in SM2.
Tobes perceived time whilst in Spider Sense mode to see a fly slowly flap it's wings.
Law can only jump so high and is limited to the ground during his bursts of speed.

Tobes is also stronger than his opponent. Heavily.
And has insane damage resistance

KingD19
Toby's strength/durability weren't in question, which is why I didn't bring them up. Law is strong enough to hurt him if we ignore the inconsistencies and highs vs lows of what hurt Toby Spidey, but I never believed he was as strong or durable as him.

And seeing a fly's wingbeats is not as impressive as actually slowing down time to the point that sound waves are distorted, and having enough time after assault rifle rounds are fired, to bend down and put a guy in their path. Or hitting people and moving so fast that time pretty much slows to a crawl and you continue on to beat other people before the first even hit the ground.

Also, Spidey has never fought like that.

the ninjak
Toby's strength and durability are in question.

And TobesSpidey perceiving fly wings flapping slowly is a feat.

But my point is webbing. Which he proved could release in bursts, covering a large space of land. If Law caught any of Parker's webbing whilst he kept high then he is caught.

You argue that Parker never performed such feats against a villain. Yet Parker's villains were never ground based speedsters.

They were either aerial combatants, large mass fighters or highend agility fighters.

Law is a speedster who can jump high and hasn't displayed the insane durability Spidey has displayed.

If Yulaw runs. Spidey jumps.
If Yulaw Jumps. Spidey webs.

And Logan is there for good measure once the webs are in place.

Spidey wins.

KingD19
Originally posted by the ninjak
Toby's strength and durability are in question.

And TobesSpidey perceiving fly wings flapping slowly is a feat.

But my point is webbing. Which he proved could release in bursts, covering a large space of land. If Law caught any of Parker's webbing whilst he kept high then he is caught.

You argue that Parker never performed such feats against a villain. Yet Parker's villains were never ground based speedsters.

They were either aerial combatants, large mass fighters or highend agility fighters.

Law is a speedster who can jump high and hasn't displayed the insane durability Spidey has displayed.

If Yulaw runs. Spidey jumps.
If Yulaw Jumps. Spidey webs.

And Logan is there for good measure once the webs are in place.

I never claimed the fly wings feat wasn't a feat. Just that it wasn't as impressive as Law's garage fight where he showcased amazing speed in his perception of time. He also dodged a bullet from point blank range while only able to move his head.

And the way Spidey fights is melee. In all the Toby movies as well as the Garfield one and the upcoming, his main focus is melee. He fought h2h against Goblin when he could. Almost exclusively h2h with Doc Ock, etc, etc... There's no reason to think he'd suddenly change his entire strategy.

Even if he did, Logan is in more danger from the webs than Yu Law. When he can react to bullets as easily as he did, webs would be moving at a snails pace to him.

As for his durability, strength and durability are usually at similar levels. If you have super strength, you usually have to have durability so your body doesn't destroy itself performing feats of strength. It might not be as high as Spidey's, but it stands to reason from his strength feats, his durability is impressive enough to let him take hits from SPidey. After all, Ock was pretty much a normal guy aside from the tentacles and was tanking hits from him all day.

FrothByte
Originally posted by KingD19
Toby's strength/durability weren't in question, which is why I didn't bring them up. Law is strong enough to hurt him if we ignore the inconsistencies and highs vs lows of what hurt Toby Spidey, but I never believed he was as strong or durable as him.

And seeing a fly's wingbeats is not as impressive as actually slowing down time to the point that sound waves are distorted, and having enough time after assault rifle rounds are fired, to bend down and put a guy in their path. Or hitting people and moving so fast that time pretty much slows to a crawl and you continue on to beat other people before the first even hit the ground.

Also, Spidey has never fought like that.

Actually, Spidey HAS fought like that. When Flash Gordon tried to punch him in the hallway, time slowed down enough that sound was distorted and he had all the time in the world to look at Gordon's fist, look at his face, look at his arm while Flash's arm was still extended.

It may not be as good a feat as seeing bullets in slow-mo but it's good enough that I believe Spidey is capable of tagging Law.

Mindset
Originally posted by KingD19
After all, Ock was pretty much a normal guy aside from the tentacles and was tanking hits from him all day.

http://www.businessinsider.com/image/4fdb51aceab8eaa52a000021/kevin-garnett-angry-gif.gif

KingD19
Originally posted by FrothByte
Actually, Spidey HAS fought like that. When Flash Gordon tried to punch him in the hallway, time slowed down enough that sound was distorted and he had all the time in the world to look at Gordon's fist, look at his face, look at his arm while Flash's arm was still extended.

It may not be as good a feat as seeing bullets in slow-mo but it's good enough that I believe Spidey is capable of tagging Law.

I meant SPidey fighting by spamming his webs. And seeing the fly's wings was more impressive than reacting to Flash's punch.

Mindset
King, let me punch you in the face as hard as I can.

KingD19
If you let me do the same to you.

jinXed by JaNx
Spider sense or adamantium claws eventually win.

golem370
Spider-Man took a goblin bomb to the face while Harry got disfigured by one

jinXed by JaNx
yeah but he dances like a ass hole

golem370
Most people do. Did you see Jet in Romeo must Die he sucked too

Darth Martin
Lol at anyone thinking Logan can tag this guy.

Tattoos N Scars
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Lol at anyone thinking Logan can tag this guy.

Didn't Delroy Lindo get a few punches in on YuLaw?

KingD19
If he did it was either Yu Law showing off, or PIS, as that old man shouldn't have been able to lay a hand on him.

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