Order these fictional metals by durability
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TethAdamTheRock
Can be more than one at each level
General Zods Ship
Shredders Armor
Silver Samurai
Wolverines Claws
Captain Americas Shield
Ultron
Black Panthers Costume
General Zods Suit
Chatari Leviathan Ship
Thors Hammer
Darkstorm Zero
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How is this a vs?
TethAdamTheRock
Do you think superman can melt thors hammer like zods ship?
Darkstorm Zero
I..... don't know?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
Can be more than one at each level
General Zods Ship
Shredders Armor
Silver Samurai
Wolverines Claws
Captain Americas Shield
Ultron
Black Panthers Costume
General Zods Suit
Chatari Leviathan Ship
Thors Hammer
First of all some of the items there share the same metals. So you are just putting items that have virtually the same strenght.
But answering your question.
Adamantium is on top: Wolverine claws (Cap's shield has adamantium, Ultron has adamantium, Black Panther's costume too).
Vibranium is second: Cap shield is mainly made of vibranium, Panther and Ultron's suit also contain Vibranium.
Uru: Thor's hammer. I doubt it is as strong as the upper metals.
Other objects: I doubt the metals of the objects above are as durable as the ones on top. Their metals haven't been referenced as much as Adamantium or Vibranium.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
First of all some of the items there share the same metals. So you are just putting items that have virtually the same strenght.
But answering your question.
Adamantium is on top: Wolverine claws (Cap's shield has adamantium, Ultron has adamantium, Black Panther's costume too).
Vibranium is second: Cap shield is mainly made of vibranium, Panther and Ultron's suit also contain Vibranium.
Uru: Thor's hammer. I doubt it is as strong as the upper metals.
Other objects: I doubt the metals of the objects above are as durable as the ones on top. Their metals haven't been referenced as much as Adamantium or Vibranium. Vibranium has destroyed Adamantium before.
TethAdamTheRock
Zods ship was slicing through buildings like butter
Silent Master
Mjolnir/Cap's shield
Everything else
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Vibranium has destroyed Adamantium before.
That is Antartic Vibranium, which is refered as an Anti Metal, with the property of shattering any other metal if am not wrong. That is naturally an anti metal but doesn't make it stronger than Adamantium, although it can break Adamantium.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Vibranium has destroyed Adamantium before.
Look for medical help.
Sable
Dumb thread, shot poster.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Sable
Dumb thread, shot poster.
CBC is one of KMC's finest gems, bro.
TheLordofMurder
There are too many items in the OP for my tastes, but I will say this, in the comics:
Thors Hammer (Uru + Odins Enchantment)>>Primary Adamantium...
relentless1
Wolverines Claws
Captain Americas Shield
Black Panthers Costume
Thors Hammer
Ultron
Silver Samurai
Shredders Armor
Chatari Leviathan Ship
General Zods Ship
General Zods Suit
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
There are too many items in the OP for my tastes, but I will say this, in the comics:
Thors Hammer (Uru + Odins Enchantment)>>Primary Adamantium...
No Thors hammer aint stronger than Adamantium.
Uru isnt that strong.
Impediment
Uru
Vibranium
Adamantium
All else.
Inhuman
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
(Cap's shield has adamantium, Ultron has adamantium, Black Panther's costume too).
This is wrong
cdtm
Originally posted by Impediment
Uru
Vibranium
Adamantium
All else.
Wasn't Destroyer made of Uru? And Thor broke it.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No Thors hammer aint stronger than Adamantium.
Uru isnt that strong.
What has adamantium stood up to in the movie verse that makes you say that?
relentless1
Originally posted by Silent Master
What has adamantium stood up to in the movie verse that makes you say that?
Adamantium has never been broken onscreen, Mjolnir has been shattered by Hela, we see this in the ragnarok trailer so its durability has gone way down in the movie verse
Inhuman
Originally posted by relentless1
Adamantium has never been broken onscreen
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TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No Thors hammer aint stronger than Adamantium.
Uru isnt that strong.
Dude...pick up a comic...educate yourself.
And Uru on its own is not as durable as Primary Adamantium, but Uru enchanted by Odin to be even more durable than before, is...
Silent Master
Originally posted by relentless1
Adamantium has never been broken onscreen, Mjolnir has been shattered by Hela, we see this in the ragnarok trailer so its durability has gone way down in the movie verse
That's not how things work, we base things off of feats. IE, which one has tanked the greatest amount of damage on screen.
Wolverine's bones never being damaged(which isn't true)would only be relevant if they have feats of withstanding the same or greater level of damage as the other objects
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
What has adamantium stood up to in the movie verse that makes you say that?
Adamantium is the strongest metal in marvel. It is known information. Go and do some research.
Pure adamantium is virtually undestructible.
In an instance, Thor stroke a bar of adamantium with his hammer and didn't even manage to scratch it.
Adamantium>Vibranium>Uru.
Here is basic information on Adamantium:
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantium
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Dude...pick up a comic...educate yourself.
And Uru on its own is not as durable as Primary Adamantium, but Uru enchanted by Odin to be even more durable than before, is...
Lol, i will pretend i didn't read that, cause it is evident who needs get informed here.
As you said, Uru isn't stronger than Adamantium. Odin enchanted the metal to make it more durable, but is still not stronger than Adamantium.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by relentless1
Wolverines Claws
Captain Americas Shield
Black Panthers Costume
Thors Hammer
Ultron
Silver Samurai
Shredders Armor
Chatari Leviathan Ship
General Zods Ship
General Zods Suit

Quite accurate.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Adamantium is the strongest metal in marvel. It is known information. Go and do some research.
Pure adamantium is virtually undestructible.
In an instance, Thor stroke a bar of adamantium with his hammer and didn't even manage to scratch it.
Adamantium>Vibranium>Uru.
Here is basic information on Adamantium:
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantium
Lol, i will pretend i didn't read that, cause it is evident who needs get informed here.
As you said, Uru isn't stronger than Adamantium. Odin enchanted the metal to make it more durable, but is still not stronger than Adamantium.
I'll ask again, what has movie adamantium stood up to that makes you say that.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Inhuman
This is wrong
My bad, it is made of Vibranium. I don't know where i read it was combined with Adamantium in one instance...perhaps a comic. Either way it is very strong.
However it is now below Adamantium. Adamantium is over Vibranium.
Originally posted by Inhuman
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It wasn't broken, it was cut. The reason was because the sword was Hot ADAMANTIUM. So it melted through Wolverine's Claws.
However Adamantium has never been broken by mere force or energy. At least not on screen.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander

Quite accurate.
You realize this is the movie versus forum, right? IOW, only feats from the movies count.
If you want to discuss comics, go to the comic versus forum.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'll ask again, what has movie adamantium stood up to that makes you say that.
Lol, it is GENERAL KNOWLEDGE that Adamantium is the strongest Metal.
Nothing has broken Adamantium on screen or even scratch it. Not by brute force or energy.
The Only thing that can break Adamantium is Adamantium.
Said several times in the X Men films. When Striker for instance made Adamantium Bullets to stop Wolverine. Or when the Silver Samurai used Hot Adamantium Blades to cut Wolverine's claws.
Adamantium haven't been broken on screen. Vibranium has been scratched. Thor's Hammer is seen to get broken by Hela in Thor's Ragnarok Trailer.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol, it is GENERAL KNOWLEDGE that Adamantium is the strongest Metal.
Nothing has broken Adamantium on screen or even scratch it. Not by brute force or energy.
The Only thing that can break Adamantium is Adamantium.
Said several times in the X Men films. When Striker for instance made Adamantium Bullets to stop Wolverine. Or when the Silver Samurai used Hot Adamantium Blades to cut Wolverine's claws.
Adamantium haven't been broken on screen. Vibranium has been scratched. Thor's Hammer is seen to get broken by Hela in Thor's Ragnarok Trailer.
No Limit fallacies aren't valid arguments.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
No Limit fallacies aren't valid arguments.
Dude inform yourself really. No limit Fallacies is to say Adamantium isn't the strongest metal in marvel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqveTysh1_k
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Dude inform yourself really. No limit Fallacies is to say Adamantium isn't the strongest metal in marvel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqveTysh1_k
Once again, this is the movie forum which means only feats from the movies count.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Once again, this is the movie forum which means only feats from the movies count.
In which movie is it stated that Vibranium or Uru is stronger than Adamantium?
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In which movie is it stated that Vibranium or Uru is stronger than Adamantium?
So when No Limit fallacies don't work you move straight to strawman arguments?
These metals do not exist in the same movie Universe therefore we have to base things on actual feats and not hyperbolic statements.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
So when No Limit fallacies don't work you move straight to strawman arguments?
These metals do not exist in the same movie Universe therefore we have to base things on actual feats and not hyperbolic statements.
What!? Lol Adamantium and Vibranium exist within the same Universe.
Lol! You trying to cheat me?
Admantium is stronger than all other metals, that isnt even debatable!!
TheLordofMurder
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What!? Lol Adamantium and Vibranium exist within the same Universe.
Lol! You trying to cheat me?
Admantium is stronger than all other metals, that isnt even debatable!!
Raw Adamantium is the strongest (assumming that the other metals are unenhanced as well), but Thors Hammer is not Raw Uru...
Thors Hammer has broken Celestial Armor and dented Caps shield...
Wake me up when Adamantium exceeds those feats...
Edit: BTW, in the original Secret War, Hulk broke Adamantium with his fists...
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What!? Lol Adamantium and Vibranium exist within the same Universe.
Lol! You trying to cheat me?
Admantium is stronger than all other metals, that isnt even debatable!!
What movie had both adamantium and vibranium in it?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
What movie had both adamantium and vibranium in it?
Bahahaha! Dude go research!
Both Adamantium and Vibranium belong to Marvel! They exist in the same universe.
Adamantium is more associated with Wolverine, but since it belongs to Fox, it hasnt been mentioned in MCU. This doesnt mean however that Vibranium is the strongest metal. MCU has never stated so. So stop your fallacies.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Bahahaha! Dude go research!
Both Adamantium and Vibranium belong to Marvel! They exist in the same universe.
Adamantium is more associated with Wolverine, but since it belongs to Fox, it hasnt been mentioned in MCU. This doesnt mean however that Vibranium is the strongest metal. MCU has never stated so. So stop your fallacies.
The X-Men and the Avengers are not in the same movie universe. I'll ask again, in what movie Universe does adamantium and vibranium appear?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
The X-Men and the Avengers are not in the same movie universe. I'll ask again, in what movie Universe does adamantium and vibranium appear?
Bahaha! They arent.
Still ADMANTIUM IS STRONGER THAN VIBRANIUM! That is clearly stated by Marvel! Just because they havent used Adamantium in MCU doesnt make Vibranium stronger! Again which movie says so?
Again go research! Cause this isnt even debatable. Adamantium is officially stronger than Vibranium! No movie has retconned that info.
TheVaultDweller
The movies don't need to retcon anything, as they exist separately from the comics, in their own universes. We don't assume which movie version of a metal is stronger based on what the comics say. We base it on what the films show. So, if you want to say Fox Adamantium is stronger than MCU Vibranium, you have to prove it via screen feats. For example, what damage/attacks has Fox Adamantium withstood that you don't think MCU Vibranium would be able to?
Silent Master
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The movies don't need to retcon anything, as they exist separately from the comics, in their own universes. We don't assume which movie version of a metal is stronger based on what the comics say. We base it on what the films show. So, if you want to say Fox Adamantium is stronger than MCU Vibranium, you have to prove it via screen feats. For example, what damage/attacks has Fox Adamantium withstood that you don't think MCU Vibranium would be able to?
Maybe he'll listen to you.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The movies don't need to retcon anything, as they exist separately from the comics, in their own universes. We don't assume which movie version of a metal is stronger based on what the comics say. We base it on what the films show. So, if you want to say Fox Adamantium is stronger than MCU Vibranium, you have to prove it via screen feats.
Not in this case.
Both X Men films and MCU still fall under Marvel Content. Marvel states that Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium! Unless stated otherwise by the movie, the intel remains so!
Both Cases reference their movies on the comics. Although they are separte universes that doesnt change the general information.
Adamantium is the strongest metal in the comics and remains so. MCU doesnt have the rights to use the metal but doesnt mean they will go against the comics and retcon such info.
MCU has not said Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium simply because it isnt.
The fact that MCU hasnt used Adamantium doesnt make Vibranium stronger, no conection there.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Maybe he'll listen to you.
Simply no connection.
Silent Master
You're wrong
relentless1
Originally posted by Inhuman
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thank you for the correction! I forgot all about the Wolverine
relentless1
but yeah, Mjolnir has now been shown to be very destructible so that puts it down a couple notches, unless you think that being blown into a million pieces somehow doesn't count against its durability...
taking the Wolverine vid into account ill have to re arrange my top three as follows:
Caps Shield
Mjolnir
Adamantium
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Not in this case.
Both X Men films and MCU still fall under Marvel Content. Marvel states that Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium! Unless stated otherwise by the movie, the intel remains so!
Both Cases reference their movies on the comics. Although they are separte universes that doesnt change the general information.
Adamantium is the strongest metal in the comics and remains so. MCU doesnt have the rights to use the metal but doesnt mean they will go against the comics and retcon such info.
MCU has not said Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium simply because it isnt.
The fact that MCU hasnt used Adamantium doesnt make Vibranium stronger, no conection there.
Did you already forget about the post of Impediment that Nibedicus quoted not too long ago? The comics are not canon or usable in MvF. Even comic-adaptations and novelisations of actual movies are not usable. We use available onscreen feats.
Furthermore, your argument is nonsensical. Of course they won't state inside the MCU that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium, as the latter does not exist there to make the comparison.
Silent Master
Hela destroying Mjolnir does not lower its standing as it still has all of its other durability feats. All Hela destroying it means is she's more powerful than the things it has previously withstood.
Silent Master
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Did you already forget about the post of Impediment that Nibedicus quoted not too long ago? The comics are not canon or usable in MvF. Even comic-adaptations and novelisations of actual movies are not usable. We use available onscreen feats.
Furthermore, your argument is nonsensical. Of course they won't state inside the MCU that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium, as the latter does not exist there to make the comparison.
He somehow thinks that since both contain Marvel comic characters that what is said in one is canon for the other. He apparently has forgotten that Marvel sold the movie rights to Fox and thus the two universes are completely separate.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Did you already forget about the post of Impediment that Nibedicus quoted not too long ago? The comics are not canon or usable in MvF. Even comic-adaptations and novelisations of actual movies are not usable. We use available onscreen feats.
Furthermore, your argument is nonsensical. Of course they won't state inside the MCU that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium, as the latter does not exist there to make the comparison.
OMG. I am pretty Aware of the Rules. Either way i wanted to safe myself the bother of going through the films to find you screen evidence CAUSE IT IS STUPID! STUPID! To even say that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium!
First of all you are wrong. Adamantium does exist in MCU. Fox has the rights to, which means they CAN'T mention the element in MCU for now, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. MCU is working on getting the rights of X Men, once it does Adamantium will be able to get mentioned in MCU films.
As i said, Just because it wasn't mentioned it doesn't make Vibranium stronger than the METAL MARVEL ITSELF HAS CLASSIFIED AS THE STRONGEST.
Captain America's Shield (Vibranium's OFFICIAL description):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7IP2B6JnM
Description:
-Vibration absorption (MCU and Marvel agree on this).
-Stronger than steel (Again Marvel agrees with MCU here)
-Strange metal (Another right description)
NO WHERE DID HE SAID THAT IT WAS THE STRONGEST METAL.
Adamantium's Description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M8LoVgPxuQ
Description: VIRTUALLY UNDESTRUCTIBLE (Just like Marvel's official description of Adamantium).
Conclusion, although from different Companies Marvel information takes Presedence.
Adamantium IS STRONGER than Vibranium. I won't even bother arguing this further, cause it is STUPIDITY to say otherwise.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by relentless1
but yeah, Mjolnir has now been shown to be very destructible so that puts it down a couple notches, unless you think that being blown into a million pieces somehow doesn't count against its durability...
taking the Wolverine vid into account ill have to re arrange my top three as follows:
Caps Shield
Mjolnir
Adamantium
Why did you changed your original list?
This is wrong.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
He somehow thinks that since both contain Marvel comic characters that what is said in one is canon for the other. He apparently has forgotten that Marvel sold the movie rights to Fox and thus the two universes are completely separate.
As i said inform yourself dude.
Read my above post, learn something.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Hela destroying Mjolnir does not lower its standing as it still has all of its other durability feats. All Hela destroying it means is she's more powerful than the things it has previously withstood.
Uru isn't stronger than Adamantium, just like Vibranium isn't.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
IYO.
you are funny.
Did you even watched the videos?
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
OMG. I am pretty Aware of the Rules. Either way i wanted to safe myself the bother of going through the films to find you screen evidence CAUSE IT IS STUPID! STUPID! To even say that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium!
First of all you are wrong. Adamantium does exist in MCU. Fox has the rights to, which means they CAN'T mention the element in MCU for now, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. MCU is working on getting the rights of X Men, once it does Adamantium will be able to get mentioned in MCU films.
As i said, Just because it wasn't mentioned it doesn't make Vibranium stronger than the METAL MARVEL ITSELF HAS CLASSIFIED AS THE STRONGEST.
Captain America's Shield (Vibranium's OFFICIAL description):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7IP2B6JnM
Description:
-Vibration absorption (MCU and Marvel agree on this).
-Stronger than steel (Again Marvel agrees with MCU here)
-Strange metal (Another right description)
NO WHERE DID HE SAID THAT IT WAS THE STRONGEST METAL.
Adamantium's Description:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M8LoVgPxuQ
Description: VIRTUALLY UNDESTRUCTIBLE (Just like Marvel's official description of Adamantium).
Conclusion, although from different Companies Marvel information takes Presedence.
Adamantium IS STRONGER than Vibranium. I won't even bother arguing this further, cause it is STUPIDITY to say otherwise.
Wow, I am seriously starting to think that you just aren't that bright. The sheer fact that Fox owns the film/tv rights to adamantium means it cannot exist within the MCU. If Marvel/Disney acquire the rights in the future, and the universes actually get merged, that's a different story. But hypothetical scenarios of what might happen mean zero in MvF debates.
Again, you are blatantly ignoring Impediment's rulings. He made it clear "Screen feats only". He made it clear that novelisations, comics, interviews etc. are not usable. As such, I am actually well within my rights to completely ignore your argument here, as you are not actually basing it within the parameters you are supposed to.
But good job. You basically just called a mod and his ruling stupid.
And another thing, you strawman'd me to boot. At no point did I actually even say vibranium is stronger. All I said is you need to use screen feats if you want to claim that adamantium is. Because, you know, that's MvF rules.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Wow, I am seriously starting to think that you just aren't that bright. The sheer fact that Fox owns the film/tv rights to adamantium means it cannot exist within the MCU. If Marvel/Disney acquire the rights in the future, and the universes actually get merged, that's a different story. But hypothetical scenarios of what might happen mean zero in MvF debates.
Again, you are blatantly ignoring Impediment's rulings. He made it clear "Screen feats only". He made it clear that novelisations, comics, interviews etc. are not usable. As such, I am actually well within my rights to completely ignore your argument here, as you are not actually basing it within the parameters you are supposed to.
But good job. You basically just called a mod and his ruling stupid.
And another thing, you strawman'd me to boot. At no point did I actually even say vibranium is stronger. All I said is you need to use screen feats if you want to claim that adamantium is. Because, you know, that's MvF rules.
I am beginning to think you have no sense of reason!
Once again, the rule is clear when it says that material that CONTRADICTS that seen on screen ISN'T CANON. In this case Marvel saying that ADAMANTIUM IS STRONGER (Which it is) doesn't contradict ANYTHING SEEN ON SCREEN. Unless you bring me evidence that MCU claims VIBRANIUMS STRONGER (Which it doesnt) the material is valid!
Dude! Did you even saw the videos!? I BRING YOU EVIDENCE and you plainly ignore it!
Stark clearly never stated Vibranium to be the strongest metal nor even call it Undestructible! Striker on the other hand CLEARLY states that Adamantium is virtually undestructible.
Point close. Adamantium is stronger. Screen proves so.
Again, the only reason am debating this is for you to learn something, cause clearly you guys are misinformed.
TethAdamTheRock
Wait untill infinity war
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am beginning to think you have no sense of reason!
Once again, the rule is clear when it says that material that CONTRADICTS that seen on screen ISN'T CANON. In this case Marvel saying that ADAMANTIUM IS STRONGER (Which it is) doesn't contradict ANYTHING SEEN ON SCREEN. Unless you bring me evidence that MCU claims VIBRANIUMS STRONGER (Which it doesnt) the material is valid!
Dude! Did you even saw the videos!? I BRING YOU EVIDENCE and you plainly ignore it!
Stark clearly never stated Vibranium to be the strongest metal nor even call it Undestructible! Striker on the other hand CLEARLY states that Adamantium is virtually undestructible.
Point close. Adamantium is stronger. Screen proves so.
Again, the only reason am debating this is for you to learn something, cause clearly you guys are misinformed.
I think you are the one with questionable reasoning skills, as no matter how many different posters explain the rules to you, you still don't get it.
Yes, the rule is very clear. It even ends with "screen feats only". And if that is not clear enough, Imp's other post on the topic explicitly rules out comics, novels etc. He literally tells people to go make matches in Foreign Cinema if they want to include those. This is not Foreign Cinema. It's MvF. You are trying to justify your argument by cherry picking a single line while ignoring the parts that put it within its proper context.
I have watched all the relevant movies and know the information. Character statements do not trump actual screen feats. Unless adamantium actually has better screen feats in terms of withstanding attacks/damage, the rest is irrelevant. Even things that have canonically happened within a cinematic universe, like the Superman tectonic plate feat from Batman vs Superman, have been ruled out in MvF, because it does not visibly happen onscreen, so can't be properly quantified. Seriously, just PM Imp if you don't want to keep having this "stupid" argument with me.
And the only reason I am continuing with this is because you clearly still do not understand how MvF forum rules work, and I don't want this to become a thing in every thread.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
you are funny.
Did you even watched the videos?
I've seen the movies and know the feats each of these metals have. Your opinion isn't backed up by any actual feats.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I think you are the one with questionable reasoning skills, as no matter how many different posters explain the rules to you, you still don't get it.
Yes, the rule is very clear. It even ends with "screen feats only". And if that is not clear enough, Imp's other post on the topic explicitly rules out comics, novels etc. He literally tells people to go make matches in Foreign Cinema if they want to include those. This is not Foreign Cinema. It's MvF. You are trying to justify your argument by cherry picking a single line while ignoring the parts that put it within its proper context.
I have watched all the relevant movies and know the information. Character statements do not trump actual screen feats. Unless adamantium actually has better screen feats in terms of withstanding attacks/damage, the rest is irrelevant. Even things that have canonically happened within a cinematic universe, like the Superman tectonic plate feat from Batman vs Superman, have been ruled out in MvF, because it does not visibly happen onscreen, so can't be properly quantified. Seriously, just PM Imp if you don't want to keep having this "stupid" argument with me.
And the only reason I am continuing with this is because you clearly still do not understand how MvF forum rules work, and I don't want this to become a thing in every thread.
I am very well aware of the rules. The rule is clear. Screenfeats only in tue given case where there is CONTRADICTORY information in the books/comics, which isnt the case here.
MCU CLEARLY has stated in ANY of their movies that Vabranium is stronger! MCU is Marvel! And Marvel states that Adamantium is stronger. If you cant grt that in your head, then you cant get anything!
Lol! If the scientist seen on screen says that the metal is UNDESTRUCTIBLE then it it. That is a screen feat! Adamantium is virtually Undestructible according to Striker! Period there.
Stark howevrr said Vibranium is stronger than common steel! He nevrr said it was Undestructible!
Ive given you evidence! Youve given me nothing but your misinformed opinion and tampered rules to limit my information.
Your points are weak.
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium. Go do some research okay.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
I've seen the movies and know the feats each of these metals have. Your opinion isn't backed up by any actual feats.
Bahahaha, ive wafched and UNDERSTOOD THE MOVIES!
Go and understand them will you.
You mean marvels opinion. Cause Marvel clearly stated that Adamantium was stronger.
But I respect your opinion. Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium! Bahahaha.
ShadowFyre
Wow. I can't tell if your being serious or not. Either way, it's obviously pointless trying to debate this with you.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Wow. I can't tell if your being serious or not. Either way, it's obviously pointless trying to debate this with you.
No you cant. Cause this aint debatable. Adamantium is stronger, that is a fact.
relentless1
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Why did you changed your original list?
This is wrong.
My change is based on Caps shield never being broken which shoots it to the top of the list, Mjolnir was broken by a powerful God hence its move to second position, Wolverines claws were broken by Silver Samurai who's much less powerful than Hela so its moved to the third spot
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Bahahaha, ive wafched and UNDERSTOOD THE MOVIES!
Go and understand them will you.
You mean marvels opinion. Cause Marvel clearly stated that Adamantium was stronger.
But I respect your opinion. Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium! Bahahaha.
Marvel never stated movie adamantium is stronger.
Silent Master
Originally posted by relentless1
My change is based on Caps shield never being broken which shoots it to the top of the list, Mjolnir was broken by a powerful God hence its move to second position, Wolverines claws were broken by Silver Samurai who's much less powerful than Hela so its moved to the third spot
Hela destroying Mjolnir doesn't undue all it's other durability feats. it just means that Hela is more powerful than everything we've seen Mjolnir tank so far.
Not being broken/damaged isn't a feat by itself.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
No you cant. Cause this aint debatable. Adamantium is stronger, that is a fact.
No it isn't, Adamentium has been broken and penetrated many times in the movies.
relentless1
Originally posted by Silent Master
Not being broken/damaged isn't a feat by itself.
of course it is, what a stupid thing to say. Caps shield has withstood iron man repulser blasts, Mjolnir itself, bombs, grenades, chitauri weapons on top of cushioning cap from injury at great heights.
the very definition of durability is the ability to endure wear, pressure and damage... ergo if an item BREAKS then its not as durable as something thats never been broken....
now Mjolnir has deflected shots from the destroyer which is quite impressive but at the end of the day its been destroyed so its automatically inferior.
also lets not forget to mention that Mjolnir and Caps shield actually went head on and Mjolnir wasn't able to put a dent into the shield.
Shield >> Mjolnir
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Marvel never stated movie adamantium is stronger.
Pfff! Go research dude, Marvel official stand is that Adamantium is stronger!
First of all both metals dont even compete against each other! Each metal has its own properties and qualities.
Vibranium is Energy absorbat, ideal for shields and armors.
Adamantium is suoer strong, ideal for weapons
Uru is magical, ideal for magical weapons.
They simply dont antagonize each other. Now if we talk about strenght, Adamantium is stronger.
Go research ok.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
No it isn't, Adamentium has been broken and penetrated many times in the movies.
No. The only times Adamantium has been broken is by other Adamantium weapons.
Adamantium is still stronger than any other metal.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Pfff! Go research dude, Marvel official stand is that Adamantium is stronger!
First of all both metals dont even compete against each other! Each metal has its own properties and qualities.
Vibranium is Energy absorbat, ideal for shields and armors.
Adamantium is suoer strong, ideal for weapons
Uru is magical, ideal for magical weapons.
They simply dont antagonize each other. Now if we talk about strenght, Adamantium is stronger.
Go research ok.
Again, Marvel never stated that movie adamantium is stronger.
Silent Master
Originally posted by relentless1
of course it is, what a stupid thing to say. Caps shield has withstood iron man repulser blasts, Mjolnir itself, bombs, grenades, chitauri weapons on top of cushioning cap from injury at great heights.
the very definition of durability is the ability to endure wear, pressure and damage... ergo if an item BREAKS then its not as durable as something thats never been broken....
now Mjolnir has deflected shots from the destroyer which is quite impressive but at the end of the day its been destroyed so its automatically inferior.
also lets not forget to mention that Mjolnir and Caps shield actually went head on and Mjolnir wasn't able to put a dent into the shield.
Shield >> Mjolnir
I'm aware that Cap's shield wasn't damaged when Mjolnir hit it, you know what else wasn't damaged, Mjolnir.
If you want to claim that Cap's shield is more durable, you actually have to post a feat of it withstanding something that Mjolnir couldn't.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Pfff! Go research dude, Marvel official stand is that Adamantium is stronger!
First of all both metals dont even compete against each other! Each metal has its own properties and qualities.
Vibranium is Energy absorbat, ideal for shields and armors.
Adamantium is suoer strong, ideal for weapons
Uru is magical, ideal for magical weapons.
They simply dont antagonize each other. Now if we talk about strenght, Adamantium is stronger.
Go research ok.
Adamentium isnt stronger you dope.
Your own logic just proved you wrong, is adamentium is better then weapons and vibranium is better for defense.
Which is stronger ya moron?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Adamentium isnt stronger you dope.
Your own logic just proved you wrong, is adamentium is better then weapons and vibranium is better for defense.
Which is stronger ya moron?
Idiotness really shines in you.
Adamantium is stronger! But Vibranium is betternfor defence not because of its strenght but brcause of its Energy absorption!
Vibranium can absorb any form of energy basically isolating the Person. Thats why Thor coudnt damage Captain America. Cause they shield abosrbed and isolated Cap from the electricity of this.
In other words, the shield protects the User from any form of energy.
Adamantium is stronger, but it conducts electricity and energy. Bad for shields.
But ofcourse you cant differenciate between Energy absorption and Strenght.
Josh_Alexander
Simply no discussion here!
Adamantium: Strongest metal
Vibranium: Energy absorbant
Uru: Supports Magic better.
Simply no arguing here. Each metal has their properties well stablished by marvel.
Anyone doubting this can go and conduct their own research.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
IYO
In your stupidity.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In your stupidity.
I'm not the one that doesn't understand that movie X-men and Avengers aren't in the same universe or that Marvel sold the movie rights to the X-men and thus have no say in what happens or is said in that universe.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Idiotness really shines in you.
Adamantium is stronger! But Vibranium is betternfor defence not because of its strenght but brcause of its Energy absorption!
Vibranium can absorb any form of energy basically isolating the Person. Thats why Thor coudnt damage Captain America. Cause they shield abosrbed and isolated Cap from the electricity of this.
In other words, the shield protects the User from any form of energy.
Adamantium is stronger, but it conducts electricity and energy. Bad for shields.
But ofcourse you cant differenciate between Energy absorption and Strenght.
In bold is your spelling and gramatical, capitalization and punctuation errors. Idiotness really shines in you.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
I'm not the one that doesn't understand that movie X-men and Avengers aren't in the same universe or that Marvel sold the movie rights to the X-men and thus have no say in what happens or is said in that universe.
I am not the one ignoring evidence.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am not the one ignoring evidence.
Yes, you are.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
In bold is your spelling and gramatical, capitalization and punctuation errors. Idiotness really shines in you.
Simple typing errors. Even without errors you would have understood nothing!!!

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, you are.
Ehh no i am not. Am the only one who has given evidence here. What have you given?
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Simple typing errors. Even without errors you would have understood nothing!!!
Spelling, punctuation and gramar say a lot about a person. Your is atrocious.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Spelling, punctuation and gramar say a lot about a person. Your is atrocious.
Well doesnt it shame you that a person with worst spelling is more reasonable than you?
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Ehh no i am not. Am the only one who has given evidence here. What have you given?
Yes, you are. to start with you're ignoring that per forum rules only movie feats count and further you're ignoring that the X-men and Avengers are two separate universes and thus hyperbolic statements are worthless.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Yes, you are. to start with you're ignoring that per forum rules only movie feats count and further you're ignoring that the X-men and Avengers are two separate universes and thus hyperbolic statements are worthless.
Lol. Both franchises described their metals in their respective movies.
Clearly stating that Adamantium was stronger!
That weights morr than any of your irrationalitiies.
You are the one ignoting rules now, since am giving you movie feats. Which were needless since Marvel has well defined the abilites and advantages of each metal.
You have no defence.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Well doesnt it shame you that a person with worst spelling is more reasonable than you?
You are not reasonable.
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol. Both franchises described their metals in their respective movies.
Clearly stating that Adamantium was stronger!
That weights morr than any of your irrationalitiies.
You are the one ignoting rules now, since am giving you movie feats. Which were needless since Marvel has well defined the abilites and advantages of each metal.
You have no defence.
Statements don't. only feats matter.
Sable
His diapers smell stinky.
Josh_Alexander
Yours more Sable
Silent Master
Again, feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Lol. Both franchises described their metals in their respective movies.
Clearly stating that Adamantium was stronger!
That weights morr than any of your irrationalitiies.
You are the one ignoting rules now, since am giving you movie feats. Which were needless since Marvel has well defined the abilites and advantages of each metal.
You have no defence.
Where did any marvel movie say Adamentium was stronger then Vibranium?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Statements don't. only feats matter.
Bahahaha you are comical. Bending and creating rules wont help your statement.
Why cant you admit you were wrong huh? Does pride blind you so much!?
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Bahahaha you are comical. Bending and creating rules wont help your statement.
Why cant you admit you were wrong huh? Does pride blind you so much!?
Try reading forum rules, it states movie feats only.
Sable
Pride Blinds you my poopy friend, you cant ever admit when you are wrong.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Where did any marvel movie say Adamentium was stronger then Vibranium?
I posted the links of both Cap and X men films in where the properties of both metals are given. Watch them.
According to Marvel Comics adamantium is stronger.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Pride Blinds you my poopy friend, you cant ever admit when you are wrong.
Cause i am not poopy friend!
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I posted the links of both Cap and X men films in where the properties of both metals are given. Watch them.
According to Marvel Comics adamantium is stronger.
Feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Cause i am not poopy friend!
Why does it smell so bad, not here, your mom changed my drawers already, it must be you.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
Feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> statements
Do you have feats that contradict what the SCIENTISTS THAT WORKED THE METALS SAID?????
NOOOOOOOOP

case close boy.
Josh_Alexander
MCU HAS NEVER SAID VIBRANIUM TO BE STRONGER!
THIS CASE IS CLOSED!
Darkstorm Zero
People must be bored out of their right minds today... Holy shit!
Silent Master
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you have feats that contradict what the SCIENTISTS THAT WORKED THE METALS SAID?????
NOOOOOOOOP

case close boy.
Feats >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>statements
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am very well aware of the rules. The rule is clear. Screenfeats only in tue given case where there is CONTRADICTORY information in the books/comics, which isnt the case here.
MCU CLEARLY has stated in ANY of their movies that Vabranium is stronger! MCU is Marvel! And Marvel states that Adamantium is stronger. If you cant grt that in your head, then you cant get anything!
Lol! If the scientist seen on screen says that the metal is UNDESTRUCTIBLE then it it. That is a screen feat! Adamantium is virtually Undestructible according to Striker! Period there.
Stark howevrr said Vibranium is stronger than common steel! He nevrr said it was Undestructible!
Ive given you evidence! Youve given me nothing but your misinformed opinion and tampered rules to limit my information.
Your points are weak.
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium. Go do some research okay.
No, you clearly aren't. Because they have been pointed out to you by several posters who have been here a lot longer than you, and have had this same conversations with multiple other posters before you ever came along. I mean are you actually so arrogant as to presume that in all the years that KMC MvF has been around, no one else has questioned the rules for clarification? People are telling you how things are, because they have already been told themselves in the past before. Except most people have the good graces to accept the rules. You are just continuing to take a giant shit on them.
And I see you also do not understand the difference between screen feats and character statements. A screen feat is like Captain America curling a helicopter. You can actually see it and quantify it (or at least try to). Character statements on their own mean nothing, as characters are not omniscient or all-knowing. Just like feats that don't happen onscreen. See the Superman tectonic plate feat I already mentioned before.
And wow, just wow. I tell you to ask Impediment for yourself if you don't believe me. And instead of actually doing that, you try and accuse me of rule tampering when all I am doing is explaining things to you. Seriously, I was trying to be relatively civil up until this point. But go f*** yourself if that is going to be your attitude.
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
People must be bored out of their right minds today... Holy shit!
Yeah, I am done. I tried to be reasonable and patient, and explain to him how the rules (which have been in place since long before he ever showed his face) work. I even told him to PM Imp himself if he didn't trust any of us with the truth. But instead, he throws false accusations at me, and continues to ignore everything people tell him.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No, you clearly aren't. Because they have been pointed out to you by several posters who have been here a lot longer than you, and have had this same conversations with multiple other posters before you ever came along. I mean are you actually so arrogant as to presume that in all the years that KMC MvF has been around, no one else has questioned the rules for clarification? People are telling you how things are, because they have already been told themselves in the past before. Except most people have the good graces to accept the rules. You are just continuing to take a giant shit on them.
And I see you also do not understand the difference between screen feats and character statements. A screen feat is like Captain America curling a helicopter. You can actually see it and quantify it (or at least try to). Character statements on their own mean nothing, as characters are not omniscient or all-knowing. Just like feats that don't happen onscreen. See the Superman tectonic plate feat I already mentioned before.
And wow, just wow. I tell you to ask Impediment for yourself if you don't believe me. And instead of actually doing that, you try and accuse me of rule tampering when all I am doing is explaining things to you. Seriously, I was trying to be relatively civil up until this point. But go f*** yourself if that is going to be your attitude.
Hey. Safe yourself the bother of writing. Cause this isnt EVEN DEBATABLE!
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium whether you like it or not!
Ive given you film statements and evidence! Youve given me bullshit and modified rules!
You failed to prove your point! You know why!? Because MCU has never said vibranium to be stronger. Why? Cause if they do they are going against their own comics!
So stop your folly. If you want to debate BRING ME EVIDENCE! WHICH you havent
TheVaultDweller
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hey. Safe yourself the bother of writing. Cause this isnt EVEN DEBATABLE!
Adamantium is stronger than Vibranium whether you like it or not!
Ive given you film statements and evidence! Youve given me bullshit and modified rules!
You failed to prove your point! You know why!? Because MCU has never said vibranium to be stronger. Why? Cause if they do they are going against their own comics!
So stop your folly. If you want to debate BRING ME EVIDENCE! WHICH you havent
Okay. You are literally a waste of time. Sorry, no other way to say it. No rules have been tampered with or modified. They have just been repeatedly clarified, because you are incapable of grasping them.
Again, character statements themselves do not constitute proper evidence. They need to be supported by actual feats. Again, ask Impediment himself.
Again, I never said one is more durable than the other. I said you need to use actual screen feats to show it either way. So, you continuously insisting that I am stating one is more durable than the other is a gross misrepresentation of my argument and a blatant fabrication on your part.
At this point, I genuinely don't know whether you are just that thick, or are intentionally being obtuse. The issue is not whether you believe adamantium is stronger. It is how you are presenting your argument. But either way, I can see that continuing to engage you is little better than banging my head against a wall. So, have fun with the other people who are still willing to humour you while you can. Because they are going to run out after a while.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Okay. You are literally a waste of time. Sorry, no other way to say it. No rules have been tampered with or modified. They have just been repeatedly clarified, because you are incapable of grasping them.
Again, character statements themselves do not constitute proper evidence. They need to be supported by actual feats. Again, ask Impediment himself.
Again, I never said one is more durable than the other. I said you need to use actual screen feats to show it either way. So, you continuously insisting that I am stating one is more durable than the other is a gross misrepresentation of my argument and a blatant fabrication on your part.
At this point, I genuinely don't know whether you are just that thick, or are intentionally being obtuse. The issue is not whether you believe adamantium is stronger. It is how you are presenting your argument. But either way, I can see that continuing to engage you is little better than banging my head against a wall. So, have fun with the other people who are still willing to humour you while you can. Because they are going to run out after a while.
You are incapable of understanding them my friend! Not gonna keep arguing something that you CLEARLY dont understand.
LOL! Are you even hearing yourself!?
The person who crafted captain america's shield is giving the properties of the metal he used, and you say that is invalid!????? Lol.
Hey people guess what! The renown scientist Howard Stark's words mean nothing! Bahahahaha.
The only time a characters words mean nothing in a film is when there is contradiction between the statements and the feats. Which clearly isnt the case here.
If you cant take Howards Stark words for evidence then you cant take nothing my friend.
Josh_Alexander
This is for all of you who are intellectual and reasonable.
Adamantium:
Classified as the strongest metal in marvel.
http://es.marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantium
William Stryker himself described the metal in X Men Origins Wolverine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M8LoVgPxuQ
Described by Stryker as Virtually Undestructible (just like in the comics).
Some may ask why then did Wolverine's claws got cut off?
Well because Silver Samurai used an Adamantium Super Hot Sword that "melted" Wolvs claws.
Basically, only Adamantium can cut Adamantium.
A similar case would be with Diamonds in our world. No other material can cut Diamonds but diamonds (lassers could but lasser isnt a material)
So, Adamantium is nearly Undestructible, for only some exceptions.
Vibranium:
Vibranium is very good for defence. Since it can absorb energy and isolate the user.
https://youtu.be/CcTHcNkuNUM
In Cap vs Thor scene, Vibranium prevented the energy released by Mjolnir to harm Cap. In that case, the kinetic energy would have traveled through any other metal and broke Caps arms. Furthermore, the electricity released upon impact would have shocked Cap.
Vibranium is a good isolator:
http://es.marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Vibranium
In the MCU, Howard Stark which created Caps shield describes Vibranium:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0m7IP2B6JnM
As mentioned, Vibranium is a very strong metal. Atleast than steel and other common metals.
Uru metal:
A very strong metal. Its durability can be enhanced with magic.
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Uru
Sadly we dont get a film description therefore i cant bring you film evidence...
CONCLUSION:
Adamantium: Strongest Metal in Marvel, however it doesnt Absorb Energy nor can be enchanted.
Vibranium: Energy absorbant and very durable. However it doesnt support magic.
Uru: Can be enchanted and is very durable. However it cant absorb energy.
Hope this can clarify your doubts about the durability and strength of the various metals.

Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Reported
No need, i am done cleaning your diapers

Raptor22
Originally posted by Sable
Spelling, punctuation and gramar say a lot about a person. Your is atrocious. Even though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Raptor22
Even though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
The mVS Golden rule isnt clear. Which clearly makes room for misinterpretation
Sable
Originally posted by Raptor22
Even though I completly disagree with Josh on his usage of comic facts in MvS threads, I thought it would only be fair to point out that in your post critiquing his spelling, punctuation etc.. "your" should have an s at the end of it, I'm pretty sure gramar is spelled with 2 m's not 1, and you've been spelling adamantium as adamentium this whole thread.
Then its fair me to point out that yes, I accidentally forgot to put an "s" on your. My fcking bad. Its equally important for me to point out you haven't even posted in this thread until now, but you felt the need to point out my mistake while ignoring his the entire time. So go **** yourself

quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
The mVS Golden rule isnt clear. Which clearly makes room for misinterpretation Comic book feats aren't allowed here. It's cinematic universes only.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
Comic book feats aren't allowed here. It's cinematic universes only.
Havent said they dont.
But what happens when the Movie doesnt give information?
Sable
Then you can't make a claim
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Then its fair me to point out that yes, I accidentally forgot to put an "s" on your. My fcking bad. Its equally important for me to point out you haven't even posted in this thread until now, but you felt the need to point out my mistake while ignoring his the entire time. So go **** yourself
Its pretty clear i was typing fast and didnt wrote properly but you felt the need to act like a ***** and came talking bullshit!

Sable
Bullshit, you been making those dumb mistakes the whole time.
quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Havent said they dont.
But what happens when the Movie doesnt give information? We form our own opinions with feats, comparisons if at all possible, and logic.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Then you can't make a claim
Then no one can make a claim you mean.
That sinks debates.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Then no one can make a claim you mean.
That sinks debates.
Good, you can't come in here and make up claims based off of air, then want to debate something that can't be proven.
Adamentium has stood up to adamentium
Vibranium has stood up to an Infinity Stone.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
and logic.
EXACTLY!
If the show doesnt specify or give details in a topic, then it is logical to assume that they follow the book/comic. Else the movie would contradict it.
For instance, if i make a thread Morgoth vs Sauron with the Ring of Power. What would you respond?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Good, you can't come in here and make up claims based off of air, then want to debate something that can't be proven.
Adamentium has stood up to adamentium
Vibranium has stood up to an Infinity Stone.
When has Vibranium stood up against an infinity stone? Specify please
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Bullshit, you been making those dumb mistakes the whole time.
No.
quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
EXACTLY!
If the show doesnt specify or give details in a topic, then it is logical to assume that they follow the book/comic. Else the movie would contradict it.
For instance, if i make a thread Morgoth vs Sauron with the Ring of Power. What would you respond? We can't really argue the specifics since we haven't seen Morgoth or his powers in the films. What I infer from the film line is his superior power since Sauroj was his servant. The bad guys from Lotr tend to follow the baddest guy aka the most powerful in the yard. Do you disagree with my reasoning or anything I just said.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When has Vibranium stood up against an infinity stone? Specify please
In Avengers 2
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
We can't really argue the specifics since we haven't seen Morgoth or his powers in the films. What I infer from the film line is his superior power since Sauroj was his servant. The bad guys from Lotr tend to follow the baddest guy aka the most powerful in the yard. Do you disagree with my reasoning or anything I just said.
I would disgree with the servant thing.
A servant can surpass his master. Not real evidence.
Well that same thing happens here. MCU has never depicted Adamantium in their movies. Just like LoTR has never depicted Morgoth. Does that mean Vibranium is stronger? Does that mean Sauron is more powerful?
quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I would disgree with the servant thing.
A servant can surpass his master. Not real evidence.
Well that same thing happens here. MCU has never depicted Adamantium in their movies. Just like LoTR has never depicted Morgoth. Does that mean Vibranium is stronger? Does that mean Sauron is more powerful? I already said that isn't real evidence I just assessed the Lotr universe with what I know. We don't even see Morgoth but clearly know where he ranks. We can't do a fight between an unseen and only referenced once in the films character.
We argue based off the feats and compare.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
In Avengers 2
Would you mind posting a video. I dont have recall when.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I already said that isn't real evidence I just assessed the Lotr universe with what I know. We don't even see Morgoth but clearly know where he ranks. We can't do a fight between an unseen and only referenced once in the films character.
We argue based off the feats and compare.
IK and is the exact thing i am appointing here! There is no evidence to compare Adamantium to Vibranium because MCU has never mentioned it.
Now just because MCU hasnt mentioned it that doesnt make Vibranium stronger.
That is my point.
Raptor22
Originally posted by Sable
Then its fair me to point out that yes, I accidentally forgot to put an "s" on your. My fcking bad. Its equally important for me to point out you haven't even posted in this thread until now, but you felt the need to point out my mistake while ignoring his the entire time. So go **** yourself

lol. Maybe u shouldn't be so stupid as to insult someone for their spelling, punctuation and grammar, while at the same time misspelling the freaking word grammar.
I didn't point out his spelling mistakes because I don't give a shit. I simply and mildly pointed out a bit of fairly obvious hypocrisy on your part.
A simple, thank you Raptor, I appreciate u pointing out my hypocrisy, and giving me the opportunity to improve on my own shortcomings, would have been sufficient. U however went with the childish tantrum approach. An odd choice I think, but to each his own I guess.
quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
IK and is the exact thing i am appointing here! There is no evidence to compare Adamantium to Vibranium because MCU has never mentioned it.
Now just because MCU hasnt mentioned it that doesnt make Vibranium stronger.
That is my point. So you each make your case based off feats, cinematic statements, and logic. These are just theoretical debates in which we argue over what most people consider bullshit no one but the nerdiest of nerds actually care about arguing over.
Sable
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Would you mind posting a video. I dont have recall when.
Look it up Ultron vs Vision Thor Ironman
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
Look it up Ultron vs Vision Thor Ironman
You mean the mind Gem. When Vision lassered Ultron?
Okay again. Just because you are being nice.
Vibranium is energy absorbant. Basically, it can withstand energy blasts. Another instance could be pointed when the Shield repelled Hydra's blasters.
Vibranium can hold energy.
Now, Adamantium could do the same, but the user isnt isolated from this energy.
Have Cap wear an Adamantium shield and he would get his arms broken by the kinetic energy of the impacts. Or he would have gotten shocked by Thor's electricity. Would adamantium break? No.
Okay. Make a Bar of Adamantium and one of Vibranium. Vibranium bends easier.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you each make your case based off feats, cinematic statements, and logic. These are just theoretical debates in which we argue over what most people consider bullshit no one but the nerdiest of nerds actually care about arguing over.
Okay i agree.
But you see my point? In some cases movies dont specify and we are forced to use logic.
quanchi112
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Okay i agree.
But you see my point? In some cases movies dont specify and we are forced to use logic. I was saying you can't use comic feats not that we can't form our own opinions when direct comparisons are not available.
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by quanchi112
I was saying you can't use comic feats not that we can't form our own opinions when direct comparisons are not available.
Well thats what am using.
Is it logical to assume that MCU will go against the comics and say that Vibranium is stronger than Adamantium?
Is it logical to assume that LoTR will go against the books and say that Sauron is more powerful than Morgoth?
Do you see what am trying to point out?
Silent Master
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
Sable
He can't read English apparently
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Silent Master
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
Thanks saved me the bother.
What is seen on screen is canon in this forums (doesnt say book/comic material isnt valid)
If your character has feats/actions/handicaps that CONTRADICT what the character did on screen, then it is a violation and is illegal ( So if it doesnt contradic then it is legal!).
MOVIE FEATS ONLY (What happens when the movie doesnt show or specify feats?).
You see my point?
Josh_Alexander
Originally posted by Sable
He can't read English apparently
Ohh i can read and UNDERSTAND english. Can you understand English?
Silent Master
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
Sable
Originally posted by Silent Master
The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!
Can you read?
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