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This a good battle in my opinion.

Spider-Man would win. Snake eyes Vs. Bats would be closer.

This fight is the opposite of a fight like Daredevil vs. Spiderman, with complete role reversals; Spider-man is going to have to try to keep up with a faster and more agile opponite. If Spider-man still used web shooters this fight would have resulted with a quick win in Snake-eyes' favour but he should still win. It should be easy enough for the silent master to aviod Pete's webbing and he can make it all the more easier with a smoke grenade. The length of this fight depends on how long Spider-man can keep Snake-eyes at a distance because up close in melee combat it ends very quickly.

Snake-eyes isn't faster or more agile than Spidey. You crazy?

He has moved so fast his sword burt into flames from the air friction. Do you have any idea how fast that is? Machine gun bullets were discribed as "slow pigeons" in comparison to an 18 year old Tommy, who was the only target of three platoons of machine gun fire. He dodged all the bullets with a person on his back while laying return fire... and thats when he was 18, he can't even be compared to his current self.

He's fast. But he's in slo-mo to Spidey. Don't be crazy.

Do you have any idea how fast you need to be for your sword to burst into flames from air friction? Spider-man couldn't even imagine moving that fast.

Snake Eyes doesn't have Superpowers. period.

He's not faster than Spiderman. Period.



That being said, he's a G.I. Joe, so I go with Snake Eyes.

a sword is made of metal! it's not gonna burst into flame! and spidey is SUPERHUMAN. snake-eyes is a human who is espeically good at what he does with the abilities to match. still he's only human. spidey is more. spidey wins this, like he deals with any ninja-type.

So we ignore Snake-eyes feats that show he is faster then Spider-man... because why?

Originally posted by leonidas
a sword is made of metal! it's not gonna burst into flame! and spidey is SUPERHUMAN. snake-eyes is a human who is espeically good at what he does with the abilities to match. still he's only human. spidey is more. spidey wins this, like he deals with any ninja-type.

Like a space ship during atmospheric re-entry. The resulting collison from Snake-eyes and Storm Shadow's swords caused an explotion also.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
So we ignore Snake-eyes feats that show he is faster then Spider-man... because why?

because the one time that he has swung his sword fast enough to create a flame doesn't take presidence over the 1,000 or so times that he's swung the same sword without ever creating a flame.

"He's fast. But he's in slo-mo to Spidey. Don't be crazy."

guess you don't read too many gi joe comics either huh?

"That being said, he's a G.I. Joe, so I go with Snake Eyes."

lol....yes.....your logic is flawless.

"a sword is made of metal! it's not gonna burst into flame!"

but....it did.


"because the one time that he has swung his sword fast enough to create a flame doesn't take presidence over the 1,000 or so times that he's swung the same sword without ever creating a flame."

how about the inumerable times he takes down hordes of superhuman cobra soldiers without even panting hard by the end of it?

make mine snake-eyes.

Cobra Soldiers are far from Superhuman. Normal humans (G.I. Joe's) regularly kick the crap out of them.

Spiderman on the other hand actually deals with real Superhumans.


And Snake-Eyes is mute and masked. It's not like anyone is going to know whether or not he's panting.

There's also that small bit about him being blind.

"Cobra Soldiers are far from Superhuman. Normal humans (G.I. Joe's) regularly kick the crap out of them.'

dude I'm talking about the automated humans and the half human/animal hybrids that cobra made.
'i know these guys aren't exactly spiderman, but they come after snake eyes in record numbers and he just sends them packing....spiderman would be in for one hell of a fight. imo.

"And Snake-Eyes is mute and masked. It's not like anyone is going to know whether or not he's panting."
lol that's funny hehehe. but seriously how would no one notice his panting or at least upper body heaving up and down? even with a mask superheroes are shown breathing hard all the time.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Cobra Soldiers are far from Superhuman. Normal humans (G.I. Joe's) regularly kick the crap out of them.

Spiderman on the other hand actually deals with real Superhumans.


And Snake-Eyes is mute and masked. It's not like anyone is going to know whether or not he's panting.

There's also that small bit about him being blind.

What are you talking about? Snake-eyes isn't blind (even if he was he still knows the Ear that Sees so he wouldn't be at much of a loss) and all the COBRA Troops are enhanced. The lowest COBRA troppers are enhanced with 2x human states (all of them) and it goes up from there as you get to higher grade soldiers like B.A.T'S, Fred Series guards and of course Wraith.

G.I. Joe are the best of the best, even random Joe green shirts can empty entire clips threw a single bullet hole. Scarlet has blocked laser fire with her sword and Duke more then held his own against those superhuman "soldier" Yeti guys (Snake-eyes kicked their asses of course).

b.a.t.s that's what I was thinking of......
yep....

Originally posted by brainchild81
He's fast. But he's in slo-mo to Spidey. Don't be crazy.

lol. snake eyes is faster, its just how it is. yes, someone is faster than spidey, wooooo.

Pretty sure Snake Eyes is blind. You see that visor he wears? It isn't exactly transparent.

And in all the stats and feats you've just described, you haven't named one thing that Spiderman couldn't do...let alone with ease.

Spiderman has 15x the reflexes of a normal human and class 10 strength. Snake Eyes is outmatched here.

The visor is bullet proof and has built in night and infa-red vison.

B.A.T.'s shrug off small to medium arttillery fire and are strong enough to flip over police crusers with on arm, sending them flying and can rip through armored cars with greate ease. Snake-eyes takes on dozens of them with nothing but a sword and slices threw them like butter.

snake eyes wins. support our troops.

jerry

And Spiderman wouldn't be able to rip their heads off with ease?

He'd go bouncing from BAT to BAT without ever getting touched. Those robots would hardly get the chance to react.

I doubt he could. He has the enormous guilt complex going on. Can imagine what he was like after 9/11? He was probably reinstated to a mental institution called Arkham Asylum.

Oh i just remembered....Snake Eyes turning blind was a One-Episode deal. He got put in some chamber with some sort of gas that screwed him up good. Duke had to come help him.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
And Spiderman wouldn't be able to rip their heads off with ease?

He'd go bouncing from BAT to BAT without ever getting touched. Those robots would hardly get the chance to react.

Because B.A.T's are sooooooooooo slow right? If Spidy took on half a dozen B.A.T's he'd be pretty screwed. With the amount of fire power they have and the damage they can take he'd be an world of trouble. Not to mention if he damages the core he could trigger an explotion that is said to be able to level a city block radius.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Oh i just remembered....Snake Eyes turning blind was a One-Episode deal. He got put in some chamber with some sort of gas that screwed him up good. Duke had to come help him.

Are you arguing against cartoon Snake-eyes? The same guy who was equal with Storm Shadow, the guy who took apart a tank in 8 seconds with his bare hands? Thats even worse then arguing against comic Snake-eyes.

No. Because Spiderman is so fast.

Why would Spiderman be pretty much screwed where Snake Eyes would come out without even being short of breath?

He has a Spidersense, Superhuman strength, and superhuman Speed/reflexes.


I can't believe I'm even forced to ask this...do you even know WHO Spiderman is?

Originally posted by Linkalicious
Why would Spiderman be pretty much screwed where Snake Eyes would come out without even being short of breath?


Because Snake-eyes is faster then Spider-man, because he has surgical accuracy with his katana even when he is running and because he plays out the entire battle in his head and he knows every move he is going to make and what position that will put him in once he makes it. Snake-eyes is so skilled he makes Batman look like a kid in karate class.

All these claims.....and nothing to back them up.

We've all seen how fast Spiderman is....

Perhaps you're willing to share a comic # as reference. I'll gladly go buy a comic where Snake-Eyes shows himself to be faster than Spiderman. Too bad there isn't one.

G.I. Joe v2 21 and I believe he shows some incredible speed in a the first volume of Master and Apprentice somewhere.

He also easily chased down a speeding jeep then got inside of it while it was moving with out anyone inside noticing.

I'll go pick up the comic and get back to you...I better be impressed.

Originally posted by Linkalicious
All these claims.....and nothing to back them up.

We've all seen how fast Spiderman is....


fast enough to get hit by rhino and vulture...

spiderman's speed and agility are almost always exaggerated... just like "batman with prep time"...

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
fast enough to get hit by rhino and vulture...
When was Spider-Man hit by Rhino ?

Originally posted by who?-kid
When was Spider-Man hit by Rhino ?

amazing spiderman #41, for one... "The Horns of the Rhino"

For every time Spiderman is hit by a character like Rhino, Vulture, or a street level bad guys....there are like 100 examples of him doing feats like dodging bullets, lasers, and oversized objects.

The fact of the matter is...Spiderman has superhuman reflexes...Snake-eyes does not.

Snake-eyes is faster, Spidey has a spidey sense. Period.

It's gonna come down to who hits who first, and I'm betting that the guy who can predict the next attack is going to land the first blow.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Snake-eyes is faster then Spider-man, because he has surgical accuracy with his katana even when he is running and because he plays out the entire battle in his head and he knows every move he is going to make and what position that will put him in once he makes it. Snake-eyes is so skilled he makes Batman look like a kid in karate class. The 1st line is completly false. Spidey is several times faster than him. Snake-eyes is human. An extremely skilled human, but still human. The last line is debatable although I do think he'd beat Bats. Originally posted by FieryBalrog
fast enough to get hit by rhino and vulture...

spiderman's speed and agility are almost always exaggerated... just like "batman with prep time"... Not really, If anything all his abilities are usually underplayed. I've seen him get hit recently by people who shouldn't. Why, because if Spidey never ever got hit, his fights wouldn't be as dramatic. Read MK Spider-Man's earlier issues. A whole SWAT team came @ him. They even shot @him with automatics. They missed of course. Rhino has superhuman speed. He'd beat Snake-eyes in a footrace. Click here turn learn how Spidey's Spidersense works when they're not downplaying him to keep it interesting. Spidey would've made a damn good ninja! http://www.geocities.com/spydr7/

3 platoons > SWAT

Depends on the platoons. Ever notice on the Joe toons they let off serious rounds, but nobody gets shot but the BATs? I'm taking nothing away from Snake-eyes, but he's not as fast as Spidey unless he's superhuman. Period. Spidey's no Flash or Quicksilver, but he's not slow either. He's got superhuman speed. SUPERHUMAN. I guess you guys think Snake-eye's is stronger too?

"Are you arguing against cartoon Snake-eyes? The same guy who was equal with Storm Shadow, the guy who took apart a tank in 8 seconds with his bare hands? Thats even worse then arguing against comic Snake-eyes.'

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....you tell em srank! i hate when peeps want to debate about characters when they don't know anything about one of the sides.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Depends on the platoons. Ever notice on the Joe toons they let off serious rounds, but nobody gets shot but the BATs? So you're saying that police training > military training?

Originally posted by Draco69
jerry Spidey was once fighting this superpowered chick named Delilah while he was disguised as Richochet and he had to let her get hits in so she wouldn't guess it was him! Maybey if they hear it from someone else. Draco69. What do you think about this topic since you posted it. You usually seem knowledgable. Who's faster & more agile, Spidey or Snake-eyes?

Originally posted by The Flash
So you're saying that police training > military training? Not likely. Spidey's gonna disarm him and web his a$$ up. Fight over.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey was once fighting this superpowered chick named Delilah while he was disguised as Richochet and he had to let her get hits in so she wouldn't guess it was him! Maybey if they hear it from someone else. Draco69. What do you think about this topic since you posted it. You usually seem knowledgable. Who's faster & more agile, Spidey or Snake-eyes?

I know next to nothing about Snake-Eyes. I know alot about Spidey. So I can't really judge. Ssrank. seems to be the expert on Snake-Eyes though.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Because Snake-eyes is faster then Spider-man I grew up w/GI.JOE and Snake eyes was one of my favorites, but I think you are overestimating him. You have any profiles or proof that says he's faster than Spidey?

SE is a NINJA with spec ops combat training!! wolvie ripped hundreds of ninjas apart. and to answer the above:

<<SNAKE EYES
GI JOE COVERT MISSION SPECIALIST

FILE NAME: classified
GRADE: E-7
SN: classified
PRIMARY MILITARY SPECIALTY: infantry
SECONDARY MILITARY SPECIALTY: hand-to-hand combat instructor
BIRTHPLACE: classified

Some people say that ninjas own the night. If that's the case, SNAKE EYES owns the whole twenty four hours. Anybody who isn't a mouth-breather has a reasonable chance of sneaking up behind a sentry in the dark. SNAKE EYES can do it at high noon on a gravel path with no cover. A qualified expert with all NATO and former warsaw pact small arms, he is proficient in twelve martial arts systems and a master of the same ninja clan (ARASHIKAGE) that produced STORM SHADOW. His one known hobby is collecting spike-handled trench knives. At one time SNAKE EYES and the COBRA ninja STORM SHADOW were sword brothers, but circumstances forced them apart and led STORM SHADOW down the evil road to COBRA. Although others see them as bitter foes, SNAKE EYES looks at the COBRA ninja and sees only the best friend he ever had, so he dreads the day he may have to draw his sword against him in earnest. >>

a ninja master. again, wolvie has beaten many ninja masters. if wolvie can do it, spidey CERTAINLY can! good grief, he's human! highly skilled? yes. capable of beating most humans? yes. spidey is WAYYYY more than human. he will never have battled anyone like spidey before because they don't exist in his 'world'. spidey on the other hand has trounced hundreds like him. i mean c'mon - this is spidey!! match him against the punisher and you'll have an argument. not spidey.

oh, and someone earlier said he would kill bats. SE is skilled in 12 - 12!! - styles of martial arts. bats is proficient in what - about 130!!!! not to mention having his own near mystical ninja-type training. SE wouldn't last 60 seconds against bats who is also a master of the sword and almost any other type of weapon. please be reasonable about this and don't let fanboyishness cloud common sense.

Originally posted by leonidas
SE is a NINJA with spec ops combat training!! wolvie ripped hundreds of ninjas apart. and to answer the above:

<<SNAKE EYES
GI JOE COVERT MISSION SPECIALIST

FILE NAME: classified
GRADE: E-7
SN: classified
PRIMARY MILITARY SPECIALTY: infantry
SECONDARY MILITARY SPECIALTY: hand-to-hand combat instructor
BIRTHPLACE: classified

Some people say that ninjas own the night. If that's the case, SNAKE EYES owns the whole twenty four hours. Anybody who isn't a mouth-breather has a reasonable chance of sneaking up behind a sentry in the dark. SNAKE EYES can do it at high noon on a gravel path with no cover. A qualified expert with all NATO and former warsaw pact small arms, he is proficient in twelve martial arts systems and a master of the same ninja clan (ARASHIKAGE) that produced STORM SHADOW. His one known hobby is collecting spike-handled trench knives. At one time SNAKE EYES and the COBRA ninja STORM SHADOW were sword brothers, but circumstances forced them apart and led STORM SHADOW down the evil road to COBRA. Although others see them as bitter foes, SNAKE EYES looks at the COBRA ninja and sees only the best friend he ever had, so he dreads the day he may have to draw his sword against him in earnest. >>

a ninja master. again, wolvie has beaten many ninja masters. if wolvie can do it, spidey CERTAINLY can! good grief, he's human! highly skilled? yes. capable of beating most humans? yes. spidey is WAYYYY more than human. he will never have battled anyone like spidey before because they don't exist in his 'world'. spidey on the other hand has trounced hundreds like him. i mean c'mon - this is spidey!! match him against the punisher and you'll have an argument. not spidey. Good post.

thanks.

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and someone earlier said he would kill bats. SE is skilled in 12 - 12!! - styles of martial arts. bats is proficient in what - about 130!!!! not to mention having his own near mystical ninja-type training. SE wouldn't last 60 seconds against bats who is also a master of the sword and almost any other type of weapon. please be reasonable about this and don't let fanboyishness cloud common sense. I think this might be a good fight. Bats knowing more styles doesn't necessarily mean he's the better fighter. Snake-Eyes might be a master @ the 12 most effective styles out. Snake-Eyes would win for the same reason Punisher probably would. He's a killer. And he's got guns. Everybody's always like "Batman's dodged bullets!". Whatever. I've seen him get shot before. He's usually beating the s**t outta some two bit mobster. I get the feeling that Snake-eyes wouldn't miss.

You know who else is human? Iron Fist, Shang Chi... Val Armorr tell me right now that they aren't able to beat Spider-man? You might also remember a certain White Ninja who was able to compeat with Spider-man and infact only lost because his own weapon (some fear crystals or something) where used against him. Seriously what kind of argument is "he is human"?

Also that bio is Snake-eyes action figure bio which is different then Cartoon Snake-eyes, Marvel/Image/DDP continuty Snake-eyes, Reloaded Snake-eyes and the CGI Valor vs Venom Snake-eyes.

Originally posted by leonidas
oh, and someone earlier said he would kill bats. SE is skilled in 12 - 12!! - styles of martial arts. bats is proficient in what - about 130!!!! not to mention having his own near mystical ninja-type training. SE wouldn't last 60 seconds against bats who is also a master of the sword and almost any other type of weapon. please be reasonable about this and don't let fanboyishness cloud common sense.

Just like the Night Creeper Leader... no, wait he got his ass kicked! And for the record comic Snake-eyes is a master of every form of unarmed combat and is different character then Hasbro Action figure Snake-eyes.

EDIT: Opps, he isn't a master of all hand to hand styles he "is an expert in all disciplines of martial arts and silent weaponry." He also has quasi-mystical martial arts moves (i.e. The Ear that Sees, The Blade of Inexoribale motion, The Sleeping Pheonix and The Airashikage Mindset)

<<You know who else is human? Iron Fist, Shang Chi... Val Armorr tell me right now that they aren't able to beat Spider-man?>>

they aren't capable of beating spidey.

and <<Seriously what kind of argument is "he is human"?>>

means spidey was far ABOVE human, hence capable of things a 'human' is incapable of. ie moving more quickly than a human can, lifting cars, sensing danger before it hits him . . . you know - SUPERHUMAN stuff.

as for the 'humans' you mentioned: shang chi had his a$$ handed to him by spidey in one of their fights. so did iron fist. as far as refuting the above stats - clearly you HAVE no stats to back anything up then?

and it - as clearly - doesn't matter what i or anyone else says. this is one of those dead end disagreements. nothing you say can POSSIBLY make me believe SE would get anything but crushed by spidey. you somehow feel otherwise. deadend discussion.

Dude, Val would f*cking kick Spidey's ass. And he's only human.

val armorr is human - so is spidey. so are most heroes for that matter. but like spidey (and the others) val has super human attributes. focusing his chi (kind of like iron fist, only stronger) lets him act as though he has SUPERHUMAN powers - smash iron with his hands, shake an entire STREET by stamping on it with both feet, kick cars from the air, etc . . .

could val beat spidey? i don't know. maybe. i do know both of them would whoop snake eyes.

Iron Fist would destroy Spider-man. Danny has shredded Spider-man's webbing before and one hit is all he needs to end the fight. Spider-man was punked by that guy(I forget his name) with the same training as Danny who wanted to steal the mystical powers of the Iron Fist. In all honest I don't think Spider-man has much of a chance of beating Iron Fist and Val Armorr would wreak Spiderman about as easy as Superman would.

Not sure what you want to hear leonidas, I mean machine gun bullets are dodged with incredible ease by a young Storm Shadow, Snake-eyes has moved his sword fast enough for it to burt into flames, the Hardmaster speed blitzed an entire police station, Snake-eyes routinely blitzes soldiers that have at least 2x human perception/reaction time or built in targeting computers. Everything Snake-eyes does is out side the realm of human but... he loses because he is human? I just dont fallow the reasoning.
Heres another little bit of information about Snake-eyes he fought Wraith on his own. Wraith, a guy who dealt "astronomical" casualties to the Chinese army. Snake-eyes was taking hits from a guy who is at least in the 10 ton range (and one who doesn't pull his punches I might add) and kept coming; he even fought Wraith well he was cloaked for part of the time!

Hmmm... Snake-eyes sounds as overpowered as Wolverine to me.

Still badass... but definitly doing stuff thats just ridiculous.

I don't think he'll be able to hit spidey, but I don't think Spidey will be able to do him in either. It'll just go till one of them gets exhausted, and judging on what you've posted, I have no idea who it would be.

lol...I love it srank...give these spiderman fanboys hell!

"Spider-man was punked by that guy(I forget his name) with the same training as Danny who wanted to steal the mystical powers of the Iron Fist."

if you're talking about "white ninja" yeah just a dude who could become invisible......spiderman's spider speed and spider senses had him only able to keep up with this well trained ninja.....even after the ninja turned visable and spidey became enraged, his bout with spidey was a stalemate....comparing snake-eyes to the hand ninjas is not a good analogy at all.....hand ninjas are despcribed as being the quilvelant of 12 well trained men....i think we can all agree snake-eyes is farrrrrr more than the equilvlant of 12 men.....

Spiderman: who are you?

Snakeyes:........... ........ .......

Spiderman: aren't you the chatterbox?

I guess these would be spiderman's last word eh?

sure why not....Snakeyes have one advantage...Spiderman always likes to insult people once they talk to him...but Snakeyes don't talk...this will give the slilent warrior the edge not to mention his fighting skills, training, and guns.

and grenades and tanks and bazookas

yeah and ninja stars gotta remember ninja stars

and neato masks...and a wolf.....and tanks and jeeps....and flamethrowers...and smoke grenades....and a messed up lookig grill.

he is "facial challenged" isn't he

lol..yeah he is....
do you like that word I just made up?.....lookig? I wonder what the hell that means anyways......looking* maybe but what's the **** does lookig mean?

beats me...it's your word give it a meaning dude.

He has a normal looking mug now... well their is big old scar down one side that Storm Shadow gave him when he tried to kill General Hawk. His face used to be pretty bad though, made people puke and stuff when they saw it.

so he's not as ugly huh....I remember when SS cut his face.

Spiderman would stomp Snake Eyes into a thin paste, spread him on his morning toast, eat him, and then a few hours later flush him down the crapper.
Give Spidey the respect he deserves boys!
out

HAHAHAHAH! i love it when the old schoolers come in!! here here, bertran! couldn't have said it better myself.

Originally posted by jinzin
"Spider-man was punked by that guy(I forget his name) with the same training as Danny who wanted to steal the mystical powers of the Iron Fist."

if you're talking about "white ninja" yeah just a dude who could become invisible......spiderman's spider speed and spider senses had him only able to keep up with this well trained ninja.....even after the ninja turned visable and spidey became enraged, his bout with spidey was a stalemate....comparing snake-eyes to the hand ninjas is not a good analogy at all.....hand ninjas are despcribed as being the quilvelant of 12 well trained men....i think we can all agree snake-eyes is farrrrrr more than the equilvlant of 12 men.....
He's talking about Iron Snake, the guy that was hunting down Danny Rand a.k.a. Iron Fist to claim his power, he owned Spidey and take his best shots with ease.

wow... we all sucked pretty bad at debating back then eh.. though srank stood true to form. anywho.. bump

Snake-eyes wins.

A ninja vs Spider-Man.....
Cool......haermm

Originally posted by Estacado
A ninja vs Spider-Man.....
Cool......haermm Why the hate for Spidey ?

If anybody saw the GI Joe movie, then you must have seen Snake Eyes get manhandled by one of the regular Cobra-la soldiers.

Originally posted by Faceman
Why the hate for Spidey ?

If anybody saw the GI Joe movie, then you must have seen Snake Eyes get manhandled by one of the regular Cobra-la soldiers.
Who said that I hate Spidey?
Anyway Peter gives him the stingers match over...

Originally posted by Estacado
Who said that I hate Spidey?
Anyway Peter gives him the stingers match over... No i was agreeing with you.

Oh.....
Ok.131

Originally posted by Estacado
A ninja vs Spider-Man.....
Cool......haermm

which might be some sort of valid argument if
1) snake eyes was just any regular ninjas
and
2) spiderman didnt already show an affinity for getting his ass beat on by talented martial artists.. the great majority of whom don't even hold a candle to snake eyes.


Originally posted by Faceman
Why the hate for Spidey ?

If anybody saw the GI Joe movie, then you must have seen Snake Eyes get manhandled by one of the regular Cobra-la soldiers.
Right, and if any body saw the old spiderman live action TV show you would have seen spidey get overpowered by a handful of ganster-henchmen.

or if you watched his cartoon you would have seen him get manhandled by rhino.

or if you watched his 3d animated show you would have seen him have serious problems against a female ninja...

please let's not make use of non-canon sources that are irrelivent to this thread because if we include all non canon sources:
storm shadow and snake eyes move so fast in spytroops the movie that they make spiderman look like he's in still motion.
in sigma six, there's much the same.

Snake Eyes get's stinged.

.....









okay, you're talking about a man who's equals with one who can bat bullets out of the air with a swing of his sword... but he's gonna get hit by stingers....?

Originally posted by Estacado
Snake Eyes get's stinged.

Originally posted by jinzin
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okay, you're talking about a man who's equals with one who can bat bullets out of the air with a swing of his sword... but he's gonna get hit by stingers....?


Hey pal, we all know you're a ninja, so obviously you're going to be biased to Snake eyes...

Originally posted by Faceman
Hey pal, we all know you're a ninja, so obviously you're going to be biased to Snake eyes...
Let's team up and smash him...haermm

Originally posted by Estacado
Let's team up and smash him...haermm IMO, this shouldn't even be a debate. Spidey strength and speed > Snake eyes.

Originally posted by Faceman
IMO, this shouldn't even be a debate. Spidey strength and speed > Snake eyes.

Do you read the G.I. Joe comic series?

Originally posted by Faceman
IMO, this shouldn't even be a debate. Spidey strength and speed > Snake eyes.
I meant it literally...ermm

Originally posted by Faceman
Hey pal, we all know you're a ninja, so obviously you're going to be biased to Snake eyes... lol... nah.. I just read comics of both characters... so I have a decent understanding of how this fight would go down.

Originally posted by Faceman
IMO, this shouldn't even be a debate. Spidey strength and speed > Snake eyes. Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Do you read the G.I. Joe comic series?

what he said....

Originally posted by Estacado
I meant it literally...ermm

pffft.. you two are welcome to try.. but should I leave you bleeding and broken don't come crying to my lawyer about it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Iron Fist would destroy Spider-man. Danny has shredded Spider-man's webbing before and one hit is all he needs to end the fight.



As opposed to the many hits Spider-man needs to land on Danny?? Didn't think that through did you?

Originally posted by Sparkz
As opposed to the many hits Spider-man needs to land on Danny?? Didn't think that through did you?

to be honest danny can take probably half a dozen punches from spidey... amped by chi even moreso and coupled with spidey's cis even moreso.

Originally posted by jinzin
to be honest danny can take probably half a dozen punches from spidey... amped by chi even moreso and coupled with spidey's cis even moreso.

Can't see it myself if Spidey isn't holding back...though with CIS on of course then yeah Danny would take more than a few hits.

Oh and has anyone got a bio of Snakeyes that won't be dismissed as non cannon?

Originally posted by Sparkz
Can't see it myself if Spidey isn't holding back...though with CIS on of course then yeah Danny would take more than a few hits.

Oh and has anyone got a bio of Snakeyes that won't be dismissed as non cannon?

bios are pretty worthless for the most part where joes are concerned.. the crap on wikipedia is just that.. crap.

and most bios are either for the action figures or go into datails concerning the character's personal lives.. there's no strength rating system for joes like marvel has.

http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/snakes.html

here's the best I can find though.

Originally posted by jinzin
bios are pretty worthless for the most part where joes are concerned.. the crap on wikipedia is just that.. crap.

and most bios are either for the action figures or go into datails concerning the character's personal lives.. there's no strength rating system for joes like marvel has.

Oh never mind then I won't bother commenting then as I have no idea who snake eyes is let alone his abilities...except he appears to be a normal human who can move at super human speed lol

Originally posted by jinzin
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/snakes.html

here's the best I can find though.

Originally posted by jinzin
http://www.myuselessknowledge.com/joe/snakes.html

here's the best I can find though.

Hmmm dosn't tell you much of anything about his abilities shame.

yeah I know..

Originally posted by jinzin
yeah I know..

Hmmm never mind maybe this thread well teach me something about him...although everyone is contradicting everyone on this thread sooooo

how's that?

Originally posted by jinzin
how's that?

Some people are just saying he is a ninja....other people are saying he moves so fast he sets fire to metal...others say he is a super powered ninja, see the dilemma??

Snake-eyes is too bad ass for words. He had a helicopter fuel pump blow up right in his face as his helicopter crashed. He shielded Scarlet from the explosion, survived the crash and walked out of the burning debris carrying her unconscious body... and after that the rapped up his ruined face and finished his mission. One time he was in a high speed chase when he was flung from his Jeep, only to have the thing flip a few times and land right on top of him... and then he is seen a few panels latter storming the mercs hideout kicking ass and taking names.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Some people are just saying he is a ninja....other people are saying he moves so fast he sets fire to metal...others say he is a super powered ninja, see the dilemma??

well he's not just a ninja...

he HAS set aflame to a sword by swinging it; the connection of which caused an explosion.

and he's not superpowered per se' but everything he does in combat is outside the scope of human ability... he also does have a number of mystical ninja tricks that act as superpowers of various sorts.

Has Snake-Eyes ever fought somebody like Spider-Man ?

Originally posted by jinzin
well he's not just a ninja...

he HAS set aflame to a sword by swinging it; the connection of which caused an explosion.

and he's not superpowered per se' but everything he does in combat is outside the scope of human ability... he also does have a number of mystical ninja tricks that act as superpowers of various sorts.

Sounds abit like Iron fist where he can amp himself with chi or something...

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Has Snake-Eyes ever fought somebody like Spider-Man ?

kinda.. wraith has a lot of spiderman like stats but he's about a bajillion times better at fighting.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Sounds abit like Iron fist where he can amp himself with chi or something...
ehhh kinda like that.. the chi doesn't manifset itself in visable energy. but his skills are without question superior to the likes of people like danny.

Originally posted by jinzin
kinda.. wraith has a lot of spiderman like stats but he's about a bajillion times better at fighting.

Roadpig is also incredible strong... but dumb as a post and slower the molasses.

snake eyes also dropped a transformer in like 3 panals.

Originally posted by jinzin
kinda.. wraith has a lot of spiderman like stats but he's about a bajillion times better at fighting.
Kinda... hmmm

So I take it Wraith has what, class 15-20 strength ? Webbing ? Spider-sense ? Increased durability ? Extreme agility ? Super fast reflexes ? Jumping ability ? He has all that ?

I mean, in the +40 years Spider-Man exists, he has fought all kinds of mutants / monsters / ninjas / armies / super heroes / super villains / freaks / aliens...

What's a ninja gonna do ? Try to stab him ? Hmm, could work

When written right, a ninja, Snake-Eyes or no Snake-Eyes, won't give him much trouble. Only when SM underestimates him, yes.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
So I take it Wraith has what, class 15-20 strength ? Webbing ? Spider-sense ? Increased durability ? Extreme agility ? Super fast reflexes ? Jumping ability ? He has all that ?


He doesn't have webbing.

Wraith engaged the Chinese army in combat. He delivered astronomical casualties on his own. The numbers weren't given... but that sounds high to me.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Kinda... hmmm

So I take it Wraith has what, class 15-20 strength ? Webbing ? Spider-sense ? Increased durability ? Extreme agility ? Super fast reflexes ? Jumping ability ? He has all that ?

I mean, in the +40 years Spider-Man exists, he has fought all kinds of mutants / monsters / ninjas / armies / super heroes / super villains / freaks / aliens...

What's a ninja gonna do ? Try to stab him ? Hmm, could work

When written right, a ninja, Snake-Eyes or no Snake-Eyes, won't give him much trouble. Only when SM underestimates him, yes.
so you think that spiderman's only written right when he's winning?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He doesn't have webbing.

Wraith engaged the Chinese army in combat. He delivered astronomical casualties on his own. The numbers weren't given... but that sounds high to me. he's also virtually indestructible.... he got blasted by a grenade at ground zero and he didn't have a scratch.. snake eyes' sword only left a scratch on his chest plate.. and again.. snake eyes cuts through b.a.t.s and transformers like they're wet paper.

Well then Snake eyes should make short work of someone like Batman?

Originally posted by Faceman
Well then Snake eyes should make short work of someone like Batman?

He could solo the Batfamily.

Would you really argue that in a thread Srank ?

Spiderman ftw. Batman would win also.

Originally posted by jinzin
so you think that spiderman's only written right when he's winning?
I was just about to write something really witty, but then I suddenly realized that I'm actually debating GI JOE, a horrible cartoon / comic book that makes the Power Rangers look like a recently discovered brilliant play of Shakespeare.

See you in the next thread.

(Snake-Eyes ... what's next, Papa Smurf ?)

Srank, can you please post some feats(prefered) or at least issue numbers please.

snakes-eyes' agility/speed > spidey's????

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Are you arguing against cartoon Snake-eyes? The same guy who was equal with Storm Shadow, the guy who took apart a tank in 8 seconds with his bare hands? Thats even worse then arguing against comic Snake-eyes. hysterical

Is there a respect thread for SE? I'd feel a lot better if I could see these feats ya'll talking about & analyze/underrate/disregard them


I'm an expert on the 'toon. & besides the tank thing I don't remember them doing anything uber

Originally posted by I-Drop
Is there a respect thread for SE? I'd feel a lot better if I could see these feats ya'll talking about & analyze/underrate/disregard them


I'm an expert on the 'toon. & besides the tank thing I don't remember them doing anything uber

I couldnt find it.....Toon, do you play COH?

Nah. What's COH?

Originally posted by I-Drop
Nah. What's COH?

City Of Heroes.

Spiderman in about ten seconds.

Originally posted by I-Drop
Is there a respect thread for SE? I'd feel a lot better if I could see these feats ya'll talking about & analyze/underrate/disregard them


I'm an expert on the 'toon. & besides the tank thing I don't remember them doing anything uber There isn't. I started collecting scans for one for him ans stormshadow... it just got put on halt along with the new Sabes thread cause m scanner died.

Though I will say that Snake Eyes skill and speed are not being embelished here.
He really has caused on explosion with stormshadow by swinging there swords fast enough to burst into flames.
They regularly block automatic gunfire with ease.. sometimes while no paying attention.
Recently Stormshadow blocked arrows fired at him with the speed of a machine gun.

There skill is also highly ridiculous, able to do things like hypnotize people in mid fight, enter skilled opponents blind spot while infront of them.

If all this is true I must change my mind. The mute wins. & I don't know any humans or Spidey level metas that can fuk w/him. He'd FUBAR the likes of Batman(who I already figured he'd beat. Fuk Wizard magazine), Cap, Shang Chi & R. Dragon. Did these feats occur in the Devil's Due books?Originally posted by Anti-Monitor
City Of Heroes. Oh. Someday I will

only one of those feats comes from a Devil's Due book which are also full of incredibly rediculous feats....


As these:

Stormshadow pulling one of the most noncholant bullet dodging speedblitzes in comics... Whether it's skill, sheer speed or a ninja illusion it's scary as hell.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/4217/max0047eo0.jpg

Snake-eyes and Firefly jump/run past a dozen men with machine guns who don't even recognize/follow where they went.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7163/max0043vl9.jpg

And these are mid tier feats compared to some of their others.

If you are pitting the two characters against one another then you have to 'normalize' the rules of the universe they pit against each other in.

In Spider-man's world, master ninjas (without other additional powers) don't take apart tanks with their bare hands or break the laws of physics

If you use Snake Eyes as the context, you have to admit that he is a regular human who has honed his mental and physical prowess with training. That being said, he still has hard limits.

Spiderman is a genetic anomaly. Canon says that he has way above maximum human strength. Whether his reflexes are better than Snake Eyes' reflexes is debate-able.... but a moot point because of his spider-sense. So at the very least, he will be able to react as fast as Snake Eyes does. Spidey's speed (movement) will be faster than Snake Eyes' by virtue of his strength, smaller size and lower overhead (no equipment or weapons to carry except for web-slingers).

Seeing as how Snake Eyes can dodge arrows and ninja stars, I find it unlikely that Spidey will web him up unless it is from very close range. Snake Eyes' sword makes him more dangerous at close quarters, but Spidey's strength makes fisticuffs a losing proposition for Snake Eyes.

For argument's sake, I might agree to Snake Eyes being roughly as agile as Spidey, but without the ability to wall-crawl.

Its not clear cut, but seeing as how Snake Eyes hardly poses a physical challenge to Spidey, its hard to see how he would eke out an outright win. Spidey's real obstacle would be Snake Eyes' tactics and training...

I say that a Snake Eyes equipped with firearms would be too much for Spidey to overcome, and that a Snake Eyes without guns would be outclassed in terms of stats (power, speed, agility).

Spidey with the black venom suit would destroy Snake Eyes in any head-on clash. Period.