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Looks like GL and some Danish director (who bashes America) are being celebrated for their anti-americanism. GL is drawing parallels, it seems, with Bush and Palpatine. Media is playing to it, and GL is not denying it.

My thought is -- this is STAR WARS! PLEASE, GL, STOP THE MADNESS!

Fantasy should remain fantasy. With all the political bashing in the SW movies by GL himself, why is GL getting involved???

What do you think?

It doesnt really bother me, if it werent for all the talk about I doubt I would even notice. And while now I will notice it, I wont put any thought into it.

I don't think that Uncle Gorge would be anti-America

This has been discussed on the forums again and again (usually with me in the middle lol).... in spite of all the differences of political opinions, most people have agreed it's not a commentary, and the fact remains the plot was written in 1997!

Doubt it, I do. Hopefully, messages like this, Lucas put into his films, he will not.

Okay. No more talking like Yoda. Bad idea.

yeah he might have had the basics done in 1997, but it wasnt finished then. theres always time to add little hints and nods towards things going on in the world, as he did with the original films. altho i think some people just made the comparision between what they thought bush was like palpatine...which is ridiculous...but really palpatine's character was always heading this way....so I dont think it was purposeful.

Oh no, please dont say anything about beloved Bush, because that means ur a terrorist...face it Bush is a fuking tosser, u americans need to open ur minds

Originally posted by hunchy
yeah he might have had the basics done in 1997, but it wasnt finished then. theres always time to add little hints and nods towards things going on in the world, as he did with the original films. altho i think some people just made the comparision between what they thought bush was like palpatine...which is ridiculous...but really palpatine's character was always heading this way....so I dont think it was purposeful.

right little hints and nods can be added but the proponents of the idea that Bush is Palpatine have always based it on the overal concept, and have argued vehemently that it is the overall concept that matters and not the fine points; the overall concept is a 1997 creation.

LightSaber_Part, read this and see if your opinion of GL is still correct...

http://www.indiewire.com/onthescene/onthescene_050516cann.html

All this bashing is kind of turning me off...and I"m a big fan.... It cut down on the excitement for me....

Originally posted by PENGUINER
LightSaber_Part, read this and see if your opinion of GL is still correct...

http://www.indiewire.com/onthescene/onthescene_050516cann.html

All this bashing is kind of turning me off...and I"m a big fan.... It cut down on the excitement for me....

Well then I best not read it before I see the movie.

I think the Emperor and the Empire is more of a symbolism for Nazi Germany and Hitler. Nazis were even called Stormtroopers back then.

It is simple history that Hitler came to power the same way Palpatine did. It's nothing new.

If people draw parallels between the Bush administration and this movie it is only because history is repeating itself perhaps, and it is being exposed.

GL is known for being anti-Nazi.

Oh No, not Anti-Nazi!!!

lol well it's not a bad thing

The idea of a democracy crumbling and becoming a militaristic empire is nothing new to Star Wars. It was present back in 1977.

In reality, Lucas may very well be trying to include minor stuff (like dialogue) based on recent events in modern history. Why? To make such themes resonate more strongly with audiences.

I'm surprised there isn't more talk of the Jedi Temple scene in the media being a parallel to Sept 11th.

There where a few grumblings when the trailer debuted, maybe more when the movie hits.

Originally posted by DarkYoda
The idea of a democracy crumbling and becoming a militaristic empire is nothing new to Star Wars. It was present back in 1977.

In reality, Lucas may very well be trying to include stuff based on recent events in modern history. Why? To make such themes resonate more strongly with audiences.

I'm surprised there isn't more talk of the Jedi Temple scene in the media being a parallel to Sept 11th.


I'm confused... how is it parallel?

Just the image really, the smoke billowing out of the most notable building around.

Look at it next to a picture of 9/11, youll see it.

oh I see I thought the reference was to the general situation

Unless you believe that Bush puts on a black hood and commands terrorists to strike the heart of the nation in order to create fear and chaos that causes people to give up their rights for more security? Hmmm.

DArkYoda.. you're great.

you said everything i wanted to say. .. now i don't have to wrack my brain for the words.

Except somehow I doubt Bush is smart enough to pull something like that off and get away with it. Cheney maybe? hmm.

Hmm, politics... SW area... no thankyou!

Sorry, too contentious. This is a happy place (in theory), and I foresee much unhappiness here.

Closing.