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Dark Phoenix


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Anti-Monitor

DP

AM

Anti-Monitor

Originally posted by Beyonder
Anti-Monitor

What a surprise youre voting against phoenix. I think after your thrashing in that other thread thats now going to be a regular occurrence. Oh well.

DARK PHOENIX!!!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What a surprise youre voting against phoenix. I think after your thrashing in that other thread thats now going to be a regular occurrence. Oh well.

DARK PHOENIX!!!

Or maby they simply didn't follow good enough.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What a surprise youre voting against phoenix. I think after your thrashing in that other thread thats now going to be a regular occurrence. Oh well.

DARK PHOENIX!!!
It's Dark Phoenix not the Force

you know who the Anti-Monitor is right?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
What a surprise youre voting against phoenix. I think after your thrashing in that other thread thats now going to be a regular occurrence. Oh well.

DARK PHOENIX!!!

Dark Phoenix has done what now? The Phoenix force has done what now?

Anti-Monitor destroyed universes and absorbed them. Dark Phoenix has done what? What's Phoenix Force's highest feat? Actual feat, not just your assumption that it's TOAA.

Dp has destroyed a Universe in a What If.The Anti-monitor did not destroy the Universes with its own power,and was physically beaten by supergirl and an alternate superman in Crisis.

Originally posted by markolin
Dp has destroyed a Universe in a What If.The Anti-monitor did not destroy the Universes with its own power,and was physically beaten by supergirl and an alternate superman in Crisis.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Dark Phoenix has done what now? The Phoenix force has done what now?

Anti-Monitor destroyed universes and absorbed them. Dark Phoenix has done what? What's Phoenix Force's highest feat? Actual feat, not just your assumption that it's TOAA.

Ur kidding me right? If you don't know what the PF is capable of, you need to stop smoking that weed. The PF is sum and substance of everything. Destroying is a lot easier that creating. The White Crown Phoenix held the whole universe in the palm of her hand, dissected one timeline, and rewrote it telekinetically. That's one freakin' high feat in my book. When the whole universe was coming apart, she held it together (that was just good phoenix by the way). Hey whe's good, she's good, when she's bad........D' Bari system

Originally posted by jffxex1980
Ur kidding me right? If you don't know what the PF is capable of, you need to stop smoking that weed. The PF is sum and substance of everything. Destroying is a lot easier that creating. The White Crown Phoenix held the whole universe in the palm of her hand, dissected one timeline, and rewrote it telekinetically. That's one freakin' high feat in my book. When the whole universe was coming apart, she held it together (that was just good phoenix by the way). Hey whe's good, she's good, when she's bad........D' Bari system

Have you been kissing GS a$$ lately? Guess so. Jgg

Oh yeah.......It tastes like the sweet victory of DP kicking the anti monitor's ass from one side of the universe to the other side.

ooohhh...burn! no jk lol

DP is as powerful, or more so, than the LT. It has destroyed many universes in what if comics, and it could have destroyed the MU in 616 if it destroyed that Mkkrane crystal thing.

You could argue for either one. Anti-Monitor and Spectre tore down the house, literally, when they fought during Crisis.

Dark Pheonix's highest feat is what....destroying a star? Anti-Monitor's is destroying infinite universes and almost reality as a whole. He's in a different league.

Originally posted by Juntai
Dark Pheonix's highest feat is what....destroying a star? Anti-Monitor's is destroying infinite universes and almost reality as a whole. He's in a different league.
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It took every powerful Earth mystic to power the Spectre against the Anti-Monitor; with every other super-powered hero barely making a distraction. In the end, it only delayed AM for awhile. Phoenix ability to absorb universal matter for its own purpose - which AM could do almost instantly - is at unknown slower rate. And besides, Phoenix power is in the hierarchy doghouse right now, thanks to the cosmic bunny in recent Fantastic four!

Adam Warlock w/ IG, from different thread, has a better shot.

Originally posted by roughrider
It took every powerful Earth mystic to power the Spectre against the Anti-Monitor; with every other super-powered hero barely making a distraction. In the end, it only delayed AM for awhile. Phoenix ability to absorb universal matter for its own purpose - which AM could do almost instantly - is at unknown slower rate. And besides, Phoenix power is in the hierarchy doghouse right now, thanks to the cosmic bunny in recent Fantastic four!

Adam Warlock w/ IG, from different thread, has a better shot. It has nothing to do with the Pheonix power potential or purpose, this is a designated time period, of which Pheonix had little power compared to Pheonix Force as a whole. Her feat is eating a star, his is almost destroying the multiverse.

If you believe what others like Galactic Strom have posted, Phoenix Force and its avatar are one and the same.

Originally posted by roughrider
If you believe what others like Galactic Strom has posted, Phoenix Force and its avatar are one and the same. But in this specific time period, that potential was untapped. Dark Pheonix got locked away by Prof X, until Jean let her out, for example.

Anti-monitor will kill her ten times over. Shes somewhat powerful but not anti-montior powerful.

i think anti-monitor will get DP from the DP saga, im not sure about a current manifestation of dark phoenix

to whomever said that sipergirl et al beat antimonitor, you do know that in the dark phoenix saga colossus almost killed her when he punched her and he was pulling his punch.

supergirl >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> colossus

power does not mean resilience. havok is very powerful and a bat to the head could kill him.

AM would decimate phoenix. phoenix destroyed a galaxy by "eating" a star. AM destroyed universes (trillions upon trillions) of galaxies just like that.

darkphoenix wouldnt have a prayer.

in a way, he has more power than the phoenix force too, because the PF destroys and recreates universes. when the antimonitor is done, nothing can be donw ith it. its gone forever. i think that takes more power.

Originally posted by Mordum
Anti-monitor will kill her ten times over. Shes somewhat powerful but not anti-montior powerful.

How can you kill something that is essential to the universe? How can you kill something that keeps rising? Somewhat powerful u say? Heavens to Betsy!!! Child, the phoenix force is both the creator and destroyer of the universe. One even quoted, "The universe will end in fire and from it's ashes, a new universe will be born." DP only showed a fraction of the phoenix's force power. As the White Crown, she has unimaginable powers. She exists outside of time and space. The antimonitor is like the M' Kraan crystal and Jean managed to stop it. For crying out loud THE FLASH out ran the anti monitor!!!

Originally posted by jffxex1980
How can you kill something that is essential to the universe? How can you kill something that keeps rising? Somewhat powerful u say? Heavens to Betsy!!! Child, the phoenix force is both the creator and destroyer of the universe. One even quoted, "The universe will end in fire and from it's ashes, a new universe will be born." DP only showed a fraction of the phoenix's force power. As the White Crown, she has unimaginable powers. She exists outside of time and space. The antimonitor is like the M' Kraan crystal and Jean managed to stop it. For crying out loud THE FLASH out ran the anti monitor!!!

this gotta be the sensible post about PF for a long time..ppl seems to forget that you cant essentialy kill the phoenix no matter what you do to it it will simply rise again thats wat its all bout rally.

Originally posted by jffxex1980
How can you kill something that is essential to the universe? How can you kill something that keeps rising? Somewhat powerful u say? Heavens to Betsy!!! Child, the phoenix force is both the creator and destroyer of the universe. One even quoted, "The universe will end in fire and from it's ashes, a new universe will be born." DP only showed a fraction of the phoenix's force power. As the White Crown, she has unimaginable powers. She exists outside of time and space. The antimonitor is like the M' Kraan crystal and Jean managed to stop it. For crying out loud THE FLASH out ran the anti monitor!!!
Phoenix Force does not equal Dark Phoenix

DP and PF are one being. DP was the PF who had gone mad after experiencing different sensations. In the show, she admitted that once she was the guardian of the universe but after she had experienced human emotions she lost control. She resurrected Jean Grey. Oh yeah Jean and the PF are one being. She's a perfect example of an Omega level mutant.

All of that doesn't matter. DP was a weakened version of the Phoenix Force. That's the whole damn reason it had to eat a star in the first place. Phoenix Force doesn't need replenishment.

Phoenix Force can beat AM but DP loses everytime. At best DP is Galactus level.

Rachel Summers the weaker of the hosts bested galactus. She's in a league of her own. As I said before, she and jean are one being. Even so containg only a fraction of the phoenix force, DP destroyed a solar system. That's only a fraction of her power.

Rachel Summers also fought a weakened Galactus. He was just getting ready to feed when she showed up. DP destroyed a solar system and needed a star to replenish her power, Galactus destroyed galaxies and AM destroyed countless universes and stalemated The Spectre. AM's feats destroy anything Dark Phoenix ever did.

quick question which issue of hosue of M did roma appear?

Dark phoenix is a lightweight compared to anti monitor. Maybe if you were talking about the entire phoenix force then anti monitor would have a challenge.

phoenix sucks, damn free loader

Dark Phoenix is Phoenix! Hey i'm Dark Lordkaos, so Lordkaos is no longer me

Originally posted by The Ion
Rachel Summers also fought a weakened Galactus. He was just getting ready to feed when she showed up. DP destroyed a solar system and needed a star to replenish her power, Galactus destroyed galaxies and AM destroyed countless universes and stalemated The Spectre. AM's feats destroy anything Dark Phoenix ever did. He didn't stalemate the Spectre, Spectre couldn't kill him because he was linked to and drawing energy rom all the heros of all the Earths that came to fight him. If you read again, I believe it's Dr Fate that says, if Spectre killed him, all of those people would die. So Spectre recreated the multiverse and banished the anti-monitor back home and the heros prepared for a final assault against a vastly weakened version.

Originally posted by jffxex1980
Ur kidding me right? If you don't know what the PF is capable of, you need to stop smoking that weed. The PF is sum and substance of everything. Destroying is a lot easier that creating. The White Crown Phoenix held the whole universe in the palm of her hand, dissected one timeline, and rewrote it telekinetically. That's one freakin' high feat in my book. When the whole universe was coming apart, she held it together (that was just good phoenix by the way). Hey whe's good, she's good, when she's bad........D' Bari system

I see that thrown around alot, that its easier to destroy than to create. But thats not really something you can prove is it? Its just an assumption..

^ I think it's common sense.

Originally posted by Hegemon875
I see that thrown around alot, that its easier to destroy than to create. But thats not really something you can prove is it? Its just an assumption.. if PF is sooo damn strong where was it when thanos was doing all his dirt????? i was hididnt with its tail between its leg, thats where.

Originally posted by King KAM
if PF is sooo damn strong where was it when thanos was doing all his dirt????? i was hididnt with its tail between its leg, thats where.

No she was busying kicking the AM ass while telekinetically rearranging Superman Prime's atoms