Captain America versus Omega Red

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Master-Borg
No Death Spores.

Fight takes place in a forest.

horrorwolf
No Death Factor? ...hmmm does Omega have the killer phermones?

If not, Captain America outlasts him and beats Red until he collapes into a coma due to life drain.

Phantom Zone
He probably still loses OR was able to pawn DD in 1 second flat and I think that was without spores.

TricksterPriest
Discounting Cap's jobber aura, he's screwed. Omega Red is a beast in a fight. His armor took a hit from a bazooka at point blank with no damage. and Wolverine's claws can't break it either. Not to mention Red has a strong healing factor, class 10 strength, virtually indestrutible tentacles (with bullet blocking speed......) http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=redtakesoutshieldagentsea5.png

Cap's screwed.

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Discounting Cap's jobber aura, he's screwed. Omega Red is a beast in a fight. His armor took a hit from a bazooka at point blank with no damage. and Wolverine's claws can't break it either. Not to mention Red has a strong healing factor, class 10 strength, virtually indestrutible tentacles (with bullet blocking speed......) http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=redtakesoutshieldagentsea5.png

Cap's screwed.

He doesnt have a jobber aura. no expression...he still loses though

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He probably still loses OR was able to pawn DD in 1 second flat and I think that was without spores. but DD doesn't have Cap's shield...which imo makes a big difference

Phantom Zone
Originally posted by Master-Borg
but DD doesn't have Cap's shield...which imo makes a big difference

Not really because if hes that fast he could bypass his shield or take it off him.

jrodslam
Red wins. Phermones take Cap out. No phermones and Red still wins via bone crushing tentacles. Imo.

Lord Feron
Red takes it because he is armored all over and his healing factor which should be able to handle most if not all of what Cap can dish out. Continued hits with the tentacles will deteriorate Cap's ability to fight OR IMO.

endrict
Red takes this.

Grinning Goku
Originally posted by endrict
Red takes this.

Battlehammer
capt passes out before the fight starts.


not to mention red is superior physically and could take any thing capt dished out

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
capt passes out before the fight starts.



did you even read the OP? confused

Battlehammer
ya you said death spores.


He has a death factor and phermones

death spores I assumed you were revering to death factor.

which means capt still passes out from phermones.

so did you ever read the character before? Becuases it was not my lack of reading the OP, but your lack of the characters abilities

Master-Borg
I got his bio from wiki.

Death spores refers to the pherome that he releases.

So please, you're wrong...and it seems like you were mistaken about what death spores is, perhaps you have not read much Omega Red.

Battlehammer
How am I wrong, I not a mind reader here I don't know wich ability you were refferring to? So I am wrong becuases I assumed you were referring to his death factor or energy asorbtion ability instead of his pheromones?


pleases lol wiki hahaha of courses you would uses wiki as your sources of evidences how pricesless.


so his pheramones are gone.

ok capt still loses with in seconds, becauses Omega red still has his life forces asorbtion ability also some times referred to as a death factor.

so either way I not really wrong, since no matter which ability you were refferring to leaves another ability which can and would take capt out in seconds of the match.

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
How am I wrong? Becuases I assumed you were referring to his death factor or energy asorbtion ability instead of his pheromones?


pleases lol wiki hahaha of courses you would uses wiki as your sources of evidences how pricesless.


You were wrong because you didn't even know what death spores referred to.

Also, wiki is a very good source, not perfect, but I doubt you could find a better source.

And how does death factor work? Doesn't Red need to grab hold of Cap with his tentacles to suck out his life? Not saying Cap wins, but it's not as easy as you make it sound.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
You were wrong because you didn't even know what death spores referred to.
not really, since people referr to them differently. I use to calling them pheromones sinces there stated as such a lot. I have also seen other refferr to the death factor as death spores.

so pleases, I not wrong in the least. I just did not know which ability you were refferring to.

I not one to rely on wiki for my evidences I rather read the comics.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
Also, wiki is a very good source, not perfect, but I doubt you could find a better source..
actaully there wrong all the time and are not a good sources.

Let's see how about Wolverine Marvel Hand Book 2004 which is a far better refferences for Omega Red then some wiki crap.


Originally posted by Master-Borg
And how does death factor work? Doesn't Red need to grab hold of Cap with his tentacles to suck out his life? Not saying Cap wins, but it's not as easy as you make it sound.

No actaully as I recall he can uses it as a range ability and at msot really only has to be closes to capt which will happen sinces capt not going to be keeping this as a range fight, which means capt down for the count.

pleases tell me wiki actaully stated omega red had a death factor.

Battlehammer
also any time capt hits him he loses life force lol

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer


pleases tell me wiki actaully stated omega red had a death factor.

they don't have anything specifically called death factor

this is what I think you're referring to though:

"Omega Red has the ability, and need, to drain the life force of other humans to sustain his own. Omega Red can do this by ensnaring his victims within his tentacles. Due to the presence of the carbonadium within his body, Omega Red must drain the life force of others on a regular basis in order to sustain his own physical health. Omega Red can use these absorbed energies to, temporarily, increase his body's healing capabilities to the point where he can fully heal from a punctured lung within a few minutes. Only a device known as the Carbonadium Synthesizer can stabilize his condition." -- wiki

see, Red needs to ENSNARE his victim within his tentacles to suck their life...he's gonna have a hard time doing that against Cap. Also, he gets weaker if he doesnt drain life force.

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer
also any time capt hits him he loses life force lol they do not state that on wiki.

show me a source that supports that statement.

psycho gundam
this is how it works, arkady can release the death spores into the air like a he is a radioactive object or he can channel the "death factor" through his tendrils in a more focused life drain.

he needs to release the death factor in his body lest it destroy him internally.

the focused release through the tentacles replenishes his vitality as well as transfers the death factor(not at the same time though).

if cap got caught by the tenticles (if arky had the factor in this fight) cap doesn't have the strength or leverage to loosen the tenticles = game over.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
they do not state that on wiki.

show me a source that supports that statement.
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?image=omegaredja4.png

hands touch him and then they all die.

Battlehammer
actually omega red really does not get weaker from not draining life force, not in the way you are thinking. It take weeks before it really would show, which of courses this fight won't last that long.


this fight kinda dumb and would be over in seconds, also capt stands no chances of putting red down

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer

this fight kinda dumb and would be over in seconds, also capt stands no chances of putting red down

I'm pretty sure the fight would last more than a few seconds.

Also, Caps super soldier serum may make him immune to Reds death factor like how logan's HF does it.

Capt prob loses, but he'll put in a good fight.

Endrict Nuul
Originally posted by Master-Borg
they do not state that on wiki.

show me a source that supports that statement.


Wiki is a bad source of comic book info.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
I'm pretty sure the fight would last more than a few seconds.

Also, Caps super soldier serum may make him immune to Reds death factor like how logan's HF does it.

Capt prob loses, but he'll put in a good fight.
actaully Logan is not immune to the death factor at all.

were the hell are you getting your info from oh wait wiki......hahahaha explains the complete ignorances.


also capt serum is nothing like wolverines healing factor and that is quit rediculous to assume it would make him immune to having his lfie forces drained.

pleases just stop while your behind.


Capt won't put up a fight period. He completely out class in this encounter and will loses in seconds

Master-Borg
Originally posted by Battlehammer


Capt won't put up a fight period. He completely out class in this encounter and will loses in seconds

you make Omega Red sound like he's hulk or something. Actually even Hulk couldnt beat Cap easily.

And didn't Sabretooth stomp Red? If so, Red ain't as deadly as you hype him up to be.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Master-Borg
you make Omega Red sound like he's hulk or something. Actually even Hulk couldnt beat Cap easily.
........are you kidding me....pleases shut up, this is by far one of your dumbest statements ever. Hulk would beat Capt easily period.

Originally posted by Master-Borg
And didn't Sabretooth stomp Red? If so, Red ain't as deadly as you hype him up to be.
He did not stomp any thing he was able to defeat omega red true, but red did not uses his death factor nor was he even looking for a fight if not mistaken.

also sabertooth would beat capt 10/10.

Omega Red would beat capt even worses and far easier given his abilities.

Red touches capt it game over. Capt can't put red down, Red easily fast enough to catch capt. If capt hits red he will be drained of his life forces.

Capt can't win and will be utterly destroyed.



pleases just stop. It was bad enough you said wolverine was immune to the death factor and then for some odd and rediculous reason thought capt would be immune.

The you top that by saying Hulk could not beat capt easily........

Endrict Nuul
-Red is far more durable than Cap is.

-Red taking a zooka hit to the chest with no effect. Can Cap copy this feat?

http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine6110iu4.jpg

-Another durability feat when Logan has a good shot on him. Again can Cap do this?

http://img146.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wolverine23ya3.jpg


-Speed feat

Red turns around fast enough for Night Crawler's Bamf and hits him.

http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xmenliberators04p14wh0.jpg


-Red use to fight Logan, Creed and Maverick at the same time.


This isn't close....Red stomps.

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