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Obi Wan said it himself, he said he couldn't kill Anakin because he was like a brother to him. Yoda told him he must do it, the sith must be destroyed. Obi Wan never did what Yoda told him to do, he left Anakin for dead, but never destroyed him, if anything he left him more angry than ever before. So did Obi Wan hold back from killing Anakin because he just couldn't kill his "brother"?

From the screenplay:

OBI-WAN looks in horror as ANAKIN becomes engulfed in flames. OBI-WAN can't watch him as he struggles to climb the embankment, covered in flames.
He runs back to Padme's ship as ANAKIN drops, smoldering, near the top of the lava pit.

I believe Obi-Wan thought Anakin was as good as dead. And if Yoda had done his job... he would be.

Obiwan couldn't bring himself to kill Anakin, even though he was consumed by Darth Vader. Obiwan knew he should have, but he couldn't

I just finished reading the novel, and while I know it is not entirely canon, it does a nice job of explaining somethings that the movie didn't.

Below his feet, Darth Vader burst into flame.
"I hate you," he screamed.
Obi-Wan looked down. It would be a mercy to kill him.
He was not feeling merciful.
He was feeling calm, and clear, and he knew that to climb down to that black beach might cost him more time than he had.
Another Sith Lord approached.
In the end, there was only one choice. It was a choice he had made many years before, when he had passed his trials of Jedi Knighthood, and sworn himself to the Jedi forever. In the end, he was still Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he was still a Jedi, and he would not murder a helpless man.
He would leave it to the will of the Force.
He turned and walked away.

The book then goes on to say that he started running because if he hurried he could honor the memory of Anakin and their friendship by saving Padme.

I'd'a walked down and sliced him in half again, to make sure he's dead. Remember, a Jedi is NEVER helpless. Actually, if I were Anakin, when I'd've jumped to the high ground, the first thing I woulda thought about was "Tuck-And-Roll".

Originally posted by Bubbapilot
I just finished reading the novel, and while I know it is not entirely canon, it does a nice job of explaining somethings that the movie didn't.
as long as the book doesn't contradict the movie, it's canon

In the book, it read like a combination of showing mercy and thinking Anakin would die on his own, and he definitely heard Palpatines ship approaching. Obiwan would not have the same mistake happen with Luke, remember that is why he doesn't tell Luke that it is his dad, it would be too emotional.

True. Luke was but a whiney little prick-farmer until he became a Jedi.

Ya, the problem is, Obi wan is maybe the most Pure Jedi besides Yoda. There is no way a real Jedi could walk down to him and finish him off. Jedi's that aren't so pure, like Anakin or Windu or something probably could have done it easy. But Obi wan didn't have it in him. He beat Anakin, but he didn't kill him. At that point, there was nothing he could do. The code, that obi wan follows to the letter, will not allow him to finish the job.

Obi-wan let his feeling get into this one but in the end they learn Qui-gon Jnn has learned the true way of the force that you cannot ignor fellings and rules you must have both to keep balance.

But Obi-wan couldn't Anikan was down hopeless and defenceless it would be wrong and no point of killing someone when their down theres no honour in that.

But Obi-wan like all us humans have feelings we cling to people possesions we start to hate or like them thats what makes us human well one thing anyway.

Originally posted by Tulak Hord
True. Luke was but a whiney little prick-farmer until he became a Jedi.

yea i agree whit that 1 i just dont get why luke could be a supirior Jedi and being a full grown man (wel at least over 18 years) , and anikan being a boy and yet being to old to get a training , why would they ever train luke .... o yea "hes the choosen 1" ugh/

nothing realy against that Tulak Hord , but that just made me think about this so no worries.

Is it possible that Obi Wan knew he was still the chosen one, so felt maybe he would still fulfill his destiny, so maybe felt he should leave his death to the will of the force?

Also, it's against the Jedi code to kill an armed man, though I think that moment should have been an exception.

Well that was pointless.

Hehehe, thanks for your contribution, Lucien.

Originally posted by Bubbapilot


Below his feet, Darth Vader burst into flame.
"I hate you," he screamed.
Obi-Wan looked down. It would be a mercy to kill him.
He was not feeling merciful.
He was feeling calm, and clear, and he knew that to climb down to that black beach might cost him more time than he had.
Another Sith Lord approached.
In the end, there was only one choice. It was a choice he had made many years before, when he had passed his trials of Jedi Knighthood, and sworn himself to the Jedi forever. In the end, he was still Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he was still a Jedi, and he would not murder a helpless man.
He would leave it to the will of the Force.
He turned and walked away.



And THAT little expository is why the book is so much better than the movie. In my opinion anyway.

In the book you have quite a clear idea what's going on. In the movie... not so much.

Indeed

Originally posted by ~JP~
And THAT little expository is why the book is so much better than the movie. In my opinion anyway.

While I do like the film, the book is soooooooo much better!! We understand everything that's going on in Anakin's head in the book. It's much more deep & meaningful.
It annoys me when people say "the book is just the same as the film written", because it is so much more than that!

BTW, while on topic, does anyone know if the ROTS book is canon to the Star Wars universe? I really hp it is! Is it canon?

Yes, novelisations of the films are canon.

Originally posted by queeq
Yes, novelisations of the films are canon.

Awesome! I'm so glad!

Can someone explain why the code prevents him from killing Anakin? It seemed in the movie that killing Vader was precisely Obi Wan's mission. If Vader survived he would have failed his mission, and if he eventually died he would first suffer tremendously. Killing him would be merciful, and it would also assure the success of his mission.

And if he was aware that Sidious was approaching his actions are worse. The arrival of Sidious would make Vader's survival more likely. It also meant Yoda had failed, so wouldn't the code call for him to take Sidious on?

To me it seems that not finishing Anakin was an omission of weakness. He couldn't bring himself to do what duty called for him to do - despite his declaration: "I will do what I must."

Where did you get the notion the code forbade him to kill Anakin?

All I get is that he couldn't bare to kill 'his brother'. Although letting him burn and suffer seems even harsher... But hey, one of the many silly things of the PT.

Originally posted by queeq
Yes, novelisations of the films are canon. In my world, they're the only PT that got made.

Hehehe.

Originally posted by queeq
Where did you get the notion the code forbade him to kill Anakin?

All I get is that he couldn't bare to kill 'his brother'. Although letting him burn and suffer seems even harsher... But hey, one of the many silly things of the PT.

Originally posted by queeq
Where did you get the notion the code forbade him to kill Anakin?

All I get is that he couldn't bare to kill 'his brother'. Although letting him burn and suffer seems even harsher... But hey, one of the many silly things of the PT.

I got the notion from the previous posts in this thread. Several people mentioned the code and it is implied by the novel exerpt Bubbapilot quoted.

Below his feet, Darth Vader burst into flame.
"I hate you," he screamed.
Obi-Wan looked down. It would be a mercy to kill him.
He was not feeling merciful.
He was feeling calm, and clear, and he knew that to climb down to that black beach might cost him more time than he had.
Another Sith Lord approached.
In the end, there was only one choice. It was a choice he had made many years before, when he had passed his trials of Jedi Knighthood, and sworn himself to the Jedi forever. In the end, he was still Obi-Wan Kenobi, and he was still a Jedi, and he would not murder a helpless man.
He would leave it to the will of the Force.
He turned and walked away.

Sounds like a blend of code, personality, personal ethics etc etc. A personal choice. He couldn't bare to murder a helpless man. But he could leave him there to suffer a slow and horrible death.

It's hard to believe that ANY code of ethics would condone wounding a person until they are completely disabled and then leaving them to die of slow immolation.

Hehehe...

Originally posted by Ace Hambone
It's hard to believe that ANY code of ethics would condone wounding a person until they are completely disabled and then leaving them to die of slow immolation.

The Will of the Force begs to disagree ahah

Does it now... How exactly?

Isn't it possible that he thought he should let him live because he was the chosen one? I mean the Prophesy was there for a reason. Maybe he felt the force should handle his death.

Interesting! Assuming that it was the Will of the Force that Vader survive, and the Jedi Order fall and be redeemed (because they had become too rigid and arrogant), then here are two interpretations.

1. What Kenobi did on Mustafar violated the code, but it was the Will of the Force that Kenobi NOT follow the Jedi Code. The Jedi, after all, no longer were in tune with the Force.m Throughout the PT, the Jedi had (in their minds at least) been following their code in all of their reactions to The Sith, but they were becoming more and more estranged from the Force and from their principles. That was at least in part due to the genius of the Sith strategy. There was no way for the Jedi to win except through blowing it up and starting over.

2. The Code required Kenobi to do what he did, which is evidence of how f'ed up the Jedi had become and why the Force was blowing them up and starting over!

Maybe he left him there as a plot device so Vader could appear in Ep IV and they could have a rematch.

It was obvious to me that Obi-Wan thought Anakin was finished. He probably regretted it later when he had learned he survived.

I think so.

Originally posted by Star428
It was obvious to me that Obi-Wan thought Anakin was finished.
Obviously, but since he cared for him, that makes it all the more questionable as to why he didn't just finish him off. As it was,he'd die a slow & painful death instead.

I agree... it is a very strange scene. I think it would have been better if it had seemed to OB1 that Anakin had died.

Yoda and Obi Wan might have avoided the whole situation if they had tackled Sidious together and then Vader. I know they wanted the one-on-one match-ups for dramatic reasons, but they could have achieved that without Yoda making such a bonehead plan. I would have liked to see it start as a two-on-two showdown, where the pairs would get separated during the fight and end up in separate single combats.

Off topic, but is there a reason Anakin didn't either:

(1) Jump like 50 feet above Obiwan to the point where he was the beyond the reach of his light saber or

(2) Jump to the low ground and safely continue dueling?

I get that Anakin was not fighting at his best and that Obiwan Soresu, but c'mon now . . .

What is your point?

Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Off topic, but is there a reason Anakin didn't either:

(1) Jump like 50 feet above Obiwan to the point where he was the beyond the reach of his light saber or

(2) Jump to the low ground and safely continue dueling? Yes, there's a reason. Called plot laziness convenience.

Hehehe.