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Who wins.

Depends on the medium.

If it's SSBM then we'd have to establish what King dededee does. . I can see him as being a heavier, stronger and slowwer version of Kirby. Kind of like Captain falcon to ganondorf.

I'd probably then have to give this fight to team cuddly. JP vs Koopa is mismatched in a way you wouldn't beleive. JP eats Koopa alive in SSBM.

Bowser was my second favorite in the
SSBM and you probably beat a computer bowser because you are more skilled.

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
Bowser was my second favorite in the
SSBM and you probably beat a computer bowser because you are more skilled. I beat human bowsers all the time because he's slow and laggy and I'm skilled enough to exploit his weakness.

Don't ever try to breathe fire on me when you're Bowser and we're on the same level. I can just short hop over the flame and get into your collision box and because of how much time it takes to stop fireing I can do this with plenty of time to use rest on Bowser's oversized collision box.

The larger characters it's easier to use rest on, The slower characters are easier to use rest on, the heavier characters are easier to use rest on.

Bower is Big, slow and heavy. He's a sitting duck to a well trained Jigglypuff.

no lie there i have beaten faster characters with him who assume i am going to mis a ol

Originally posted by CorderaMitchell
no lie there i have beaten faster characters with him who assume i am going to mis a ol Characters that are faster than him isn't saying much. Practically everyone is faster than him.

Jigglypuff is a rather unpredictable character due to her air manuverability.

Your attacks lag. Which means you'll be spending precious frames waiting for an attack to initiate, or waiting for an attack to end.

You miss, you die.

Plus Jigglypuff has high priority moves that override other moves that are already active. Like Bowser's whirling fortress.

Pound and Jigglypuff's back aerial A both override it.

sort of like kirby but even more unpredictable and underrated, though she has gotten a face lift from the first one , players that can annoy me are the typical Gandadorf, Marl and roy type.

If we use the SSBM engine to determine this fight...then I'll have to give this to team cuddly. I've noticed that, when two equal people are fighting, the one with the faster character is always able to overwhelm the other by dodging and hitting, etc.

However...a good solid hit from the bigger guys can really change the tide of one of these fights, so, it really all depends on who gets the first hit

Yeah which is why I play with faster low defense char such as kirby, shin akuma, mr. grimm lol.

1v1, I go for balance. Characters like JP and Kirby die really easy, especially to someone skilled with using Link, Samus, or Falco (and their less cool incarnations) There are others that fit there too, even Marth and Roy when used correctly. Marth and Roy are actually stronger as team or massive brawl guys, because they have both good reach and plenty of power.

Someone using a JP type character should beat the crap out of a Bowser type, but then should probly get murdered by a good player with the middle men.

As to the fight, Kirby beats DeDeDee anyway, Yoshi eats Jigglypuff and spits him at Bowser, knocking him off a conveniently placed cliff.

Yea well usually this happens against equally skilled players theres a usual rock paper scissors unless one is a faster thinker which means a better gamer kind of like tiers in oter fighting games.

Originally posted by Dizzle
1v1, I go for balance. Characters like JP and Kirby die really easy, especially to someone skilled with using Link, Samus, or Falco (and their less cool incarnations) There are others that fit there too, even Marth and Roy when used correctly. Marth and Roy are actually stronger as team or massive brawl guys, because they have both good reach and plenty of power.

Someone using a JP type character should beat the crap out of a Bowser type, but then should probly get murdered by a good player with the middle men.

As to the fight, Kirby beats DeDeDee anyway, Yoshi eats Jigglypuff and spits him at Bowser, knocking him off a conveniently placed cliff. You underestimate the high manuverability high priority jigglypuff. Especially with falco who falls really fast makeing him easy to juggle, and easy to land a rest attack on.

Don't argue with this guy he knows too much on this game.

bowser and ddd loses...

yoshi wins this ALONE!!!

jiggly uses rest...instant pwnage to bowser
and kirby and yoshi take out dededee until jp does rest on him too..
jp could take this himself..

yeah, jigglypuff has hydropump and things like that!

Really? In terms of SSBM I think the trio wins, but storyline wise, not so sure, perhaps I should've added Metaknight.

well, in storyline, they also win, and yoshi could by himself. in paper mario 2, he could shrink his enemies by throwing eggs at them, and i dont see those two big fat characters avoid them. and then, yoshi would drown them in juice, a move from super mario suinshine or just stomp them, he has shoes, bowsers spikes shouldnt hurt him, and especially not if he is less than a half meter tall.