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both of these were leaders in sinister six venom was only for two issues or so but who do you think is more sinister and why

Ock.

Dr. Octopus.

Venom was not the leader of the Sinister Six that time.Sandman was.

And secondly Ock is far more sinister than Eddie Brock could ever be.Brock would never threaten the lives of millions of people.

Yeah Doc Ock is the better leader, Venom is better at random attacks and violence.

but he could kick doc ocks ass...sorry doc ock

Originally posted by DBZ MAN
but he could kick doc ocks ass...sorry doc ock

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/cap171.jpg

Originally posted by Doc Ock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/cap171.jpg i smirk back at you

Doc all the way.

Venom eases Ock of the burden of his extra arms.

Venom is the better fighter, but ock is the greater thinker and large scale threat

VENOM.

Good point Doc is Really smart...He could use that as an Advantage.

he's so handy ( I know mainstream that's mega lame..but true)

Originally posted by Mainstream
he's so handy ( I know mainstream that's mega lame..but true) Took me a second to get that one...Maybe they should make a robot Doc...One arm soda another Remote....Ect.

an octo bot...didn't he do that on the toon...the two parter about the sick mexican/white/sick girl?

Originally posted by Mainstream
an octo bot...didn't he do that on the toon...the two parter about the sick mexican/white/sick girl? What spideys biggest fan? When he lost his memory?

Originally posted by Spideys Sister
What spideys biggest fan? When he lost his memory?

yeah indeed child.

arrow versus forum

good golly!!!!

Hi Paola....Originally posted by Mainstream
yeah indeed child. Good episode.

Wow, didn't i post somewhere else on here trippy.

Originally posted by Doc Ock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/octopus/cap171.jpg

Best. Reply. Ever.

oh who's more sinister?.....doc ock by far...venom thinks he's actually doing good...so I suppose his most sinister acts are subject to point of view.....but doc....he knows what he's doing is wrong...he's way more sinister...though in a fight...venom would rape doc ock and leave him for dead...

Or just eat his brains.....................

Venom, will tear off his testicals and feed it to him.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Venom, will tear off his testicals and feed it to him.

you mean tentacles right?

Witch ever Venom gets to first. Doc ock is eating it.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Witch ever spidey gets to first. Doc ock is eating it.

indeed glare

That episode was kinda stupid.

Spiderman: Hey Ock, yo gramma wear's combat boots!!
Doc Ock: I'm defeated!

Topic-wise, I don't think I can choose.

i am a fan of both of them but doc ock woulded be able to venom. for multiple reasons.one, venom would eventuly break doc ocks tentecles.two, doc ocks tentecles would be able to grab venom.

Venom

Doc Ocks tentacles are very deadly but he is just a human. Spidey holds back when he fights humans. So if Venom fights DO he would most likely fight with full strength. With oder words: Doc Ock dies.

BUT if Dock Ock comes prepared (Sonic Gun, gas lighter) then he can surely make a win.

Originally posted by Max Spidey 24
Venom, will tear off his testicals and feed it to him.
I could definately see doc ock eating his own balls in this fight...oh thats a funny yet highly disturbing image...

Yea, that should have stayed in your head lol...

venom couldnt break doc ocks tenticals, they are coated in adimantium. But I wouldnt say Venom would rape Doc Ock, he's too smart to just get completely owned by venny but yeah vennom shouldnt have loads of trouble in this fight. Unless some is playing the backstreet boys in the background, that sound would def drive his symbiote away.

Wow. This one is ACTUALLY pretty even.

Analyzation:

Venom tops Ock on strength and speed, but lacks in the brains. It would be quite easy for him to rely on senses and win, but knowing Ock, he wouldn't let that happen. Ock might even have a chance going with Brock in an all out brawl, seeing as he has those huge tentacles. If Venom let up just one bit (but with his senses, he won't) then the fight is over. Thinking of Venom's intelligence level, he would like to just mutilate Ock, who would keep his distance and attack with the tentacles. I'm sorry to say, but this fight would most likely go to Ock, but just barely.

Venom wins this easily..............

all of you Doc Ock fans, you should know very well that Venom IS Spider-Man's most dangerous enemy, and ffs how is Doc Ock going to hurt Venom?? Venom would slice Doc's ass because Doc is only human and Venom is even stronger than Spidey

Originally posted by Venom Dude No.1
all of you Doc Ock fans, you should know very well that Venom IS Spider-Man's most dangerous enemy, and ffs how is Doc Ock going to hurt Venom?? Venom would slice Doc's ass because Doc is only human and Venom is even stronger than Spidey

dnt let batman fans here you say only human they will eat you alive!!!

Originally posted by Sparkz
dnt let batman fans here you say only human they will eat you alive!!!
it's true...

anywho batman is a physical specimen... dock is a fat guy...

but yeah symbiote tendrils end this one quick... dock ock isn'tpacking harder hits than juggernaught.. and singular strands of symbiote have proven to be as strong as dock's tenticals... what happens when venom unleashes 100 of them in his direction? ock may as well be fighting air...he'll be suffocated or eaten... either way he'd lose..

but back ON TOPIC... this is a question of who's more sinister... I still say otto on this one...

Originally posted by jinzin
it's true...

anywho batman is a physical specimen... dock is a fat guy...

but yeah symbiote tendrils end this one quick... dock ock isn'tpacking harder hits than juggernaught.. and singular strands of symbiote have proven to be as strong as dock's tenticals... what happens when venom unleashes 100 of them in his direction? ock may as well be fighting air...he'll be suffocated or eaten... either way he'd lose..

but back ON TOPIC... this is a question of who's more sinister... I still say otto on this one...


Ock couldnt win in raw power, but he could outsmart venny. and i dnt know why ppl keep saying venom can break ocks tenticles, since ocks tenticles broke after the stroy of master planer he coasted them with adimantium. venom isnt strong enuff to break adamantium, hell the hulk isnt strong enuff to do tht.

Just read the Ock VS Wolverine thread...

New Ock would smoke Venom.

Ock wins.

Originally posted by Sparkz
Ock couldnt win in raw power, but he could outsmart venny. and i dnt know why ppl keep saying venom can break ocks tenticles, since ocks tenticles broke after the stroy of master planer he coasted them with adimantium. venom isnt strong enuff to break adamantium, hell the hulk isnt strong enuff to do tht.

outsmart venom? so then he'd have to win by a plot device... which is how EVERYONE (barring the friggin juggernaught and wolverine) have had to resort to versus venom in a strait p fight...

as far as breaking the tenticals.. that wasn't one of my argument's so I'm not sure where you're getting this from....

venom doesn't have to be strong enough to break admantium in order to web ocks tenticals and symbiote him in the face...

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Just read the Ock VS Wolverine thread...

New Ock would smoke Venom.

Ock wins.

cause he can deflect bullets? pfffft... venom has outsped a bullet after it's been fired WHILE started 5 feet behind it...

not to even mention how the "new dock ock" ooooooohhhhh early got beat to death by green goblin...

Ock

Originally posted by jinzin
outsmart venom? so then he'd have to win by a plot device... which is how EVERYONE (barring the friggin juggernaught and wolverine) have had to resort to versus venom in a strait p fight...

as far as breaking the tenticals.. that wasn't one of my argument's so I'm not sure where you're getting this from....

venom doesn't have to be strong enough to break admantium in order to web ocks tenticals and symbiote him in the face...



cause he can deflect bullets? pfffft... venom has outsped a bullet after it's been fired WHILE started 5 feet behind it...

not to even mention how the "new dock ock" ooooooohhhhh early got beat to death by green goblin...

Woah Calm down i thought i read some1 say tht maybe in another forum anyway, yes only a plot devise im afriad, but i was just stating how ock could win, not giving excuses but its the only way i cud see ock win.

aight... i am calm though... I'm always calm.... shifty

Originally posted by jinzin
aight... i am calm though... I'm always calm.... shifty

good being angry poloutes the kalma....no im not a hippy.

Originally posted by jinzin


not to even mention how the "new dock ock" ooooooohhhhh early got beat to death by green goblin...

Your just mad because I kicked your ass in that Wolverine VS Dock Ock fight...

Ock wins 10/10

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Your just mad because I kicked your ass in that Wolverine VS Dock Ock fight...

pffft yeah that'swhat it was.... I mean it's not like you guys weren't debating classic ock or anything using old ock feats and such... then we reply with a feat where wolverine beat his ass... "that doesn't count...and the ussual b.s..... I have no qualms with admitting that wolverine would lose to current ock...

Originally posted by Sparkz
Ock couldnt win in raw power, but he could outsmart venny. and i dnt know why ppl keep saying venom can break ocks tenticles, since ocks tenticles broke after the stroy of master planer he coasted them with adimantium. venom isnt strong enuff to break adamantium, hell the hulk isnt strong enuff to do tht.
I never heard about the adamantium coating but as far as I'm concerned, if SPIDER-GIRL can break Octopus tendrils Venom certainly could.

Venom will own dock ock if spiderman has trouble beating venom than ock gets owned

C master

Jinzin???

Venom beats Doc Ock in raw power, he is class 25(25 tons) Doc Ock aint that strong even with his tentacles.
Venom 1 Doc Ock 0

Venom is pretty fast, not as fast as Spidey but close and Ock isnt really known for speed is he?
Venom 2 Doc Ock 0

As someone mentioned earlier its true, Doc Ock is far more sinister than Venom, Venom would never threaten millions of people.
Venom 2 Doc Ock 1

Venom has webbing which comes in handy here, Doc Ock hasnt.
Venom 3 Doc Ock 1

Venom has a spider-sense, Doc Ock hasnt.
Venom 4 Doc Ock 1

Doc Ock is smart as a genius, Venom aint that smart.
Venom 4 Doc Ock 2

Venom has great agility, stamina and durability. Doc Ock is just a fat guy.
Venom 5 Doc Ock 2

Doc Ocks tentacles can't hurt Venom SERIOUSLY because the only thing that hurts Venom is sonics and fire. Does Ock have anything of this? No he doesnt so he cant hurt Venom so much. Venom has claws and sharped poison teeth and tendrils to suffocate Ock.
Venom 6 Doc Ock 2

Venom has better fighting skills than Ock.
Venom 7 Doc Ock 2

The end result is: Venom will rip Ock in pieces!!

Originally posted by jinzin
pffft yeah that'swhat it was.... I mean it's not like you guys weren't debating classic ock or anything using old ock feats and such... then we reply with a feat where wolverine beat his ass... "that doesn't count...and the ussual b.s..... I have no qualms with admitting that wolverine would lose to current ock...

And, since it said OCK, and not CLASSIC OCK, I assumed that it was the current Ock.

You realize that all the feats I posted were made by current Ock...

Venom. He can attack Doc's pathetic human body with his symbiote.