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Intrepid, somewhat direct movements are used in combination with very advanced techniques involving Force-powered jumps and motions. Form VII does not appear as fancy as Form IV, but the technical details of it use very open movements resulting in a very unpredictable battle style.

Form VII demands the emotional and physical intensity of Form V, but it much more effectively controls it (if mastered). Form VII, when fully mastered, results in extraordinary power.

However, as Mace Windu remarks in Episode III, Vaapad borders on the edge of falling to the Dark Side, as it channels one's anger and darkness into the attack. Only Windu's mastery and concentration of the Light prevents him from succumbing, which is why Vaapad is rarely practiced and very dangerous.

It is said that only two individuals ever outsparred Master Windu: Yoda and Dooku. (With dooku it would either be a stalemate or mace would win. When mace first sparred dooku, he was on the lightside, imagine how mace's vaapad would help him in a fight when dooku was on the darkside.)
Master Windu briefly fights General Grievous when the general and his forces overpower the Jedi and capture Chancellor Palpatine. Grievous is injured by Mace Windu using a Force grip attack on his chest, crushing the metal around his organs and causing Grievous to gain his coughs heard throughout Revenge of the Sith. ahhah! just thought that was funny.

why?

Mace is powerful/alright/weak/good/bad/poor/excellent/mighty/lame/loser/quick/slow

yiiipeeeee lets all cheer for mace windu hooorayyy!!!

you happy now??

Palpatine easily and swiftly slays Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin. He kills Master Fisto shortly after. However, Sidious finds that Windu makes for a far tougher opponent.

Master Windu's long study of lightsaber combat and his mastery of Form VII combat and Vaapad serve him well in fighting Sidious, although the Dark Lord seemingly may have forseen this moment and planned for it accordingly. After Windu seems to get the upperhand Mace kicks Sidious' lightsaber away from the Dark Lord of the Sith just as Anakin Skywalker arrives on the scene (despite Windu's orders for Skywalker to stay out of this conflict).

Darth Sidious uses the moment greatly to his advantage and hurls Force Lightning directly at Windu from close range (Sidious has fallen onto his backside at this point and "looks" particularly vulnerable). This serves a clever and deviously implied purpose in the film as Windu uses his lightsaber to deflect the Force Lightning back onto Sidious, deforming and scarring the future Emperor's face in the process.
(Still doesnt annoucne who really won, it said that sidious dident expect mace to be that great of an opponent, and that he had a feeling anakin might come, but he was holding of for his life, and that he never realized that mace would make that great of an opponent, until anakin came in was when he changed his face from a nervous death look to a hppy smile knowing what would happen and planning for his next attack.

And that's how the cookie crumbles.

Originally posted by darth zamorak
yiiipeeeee lets all cheer for mace windu hooorayyy!!!

you happy now??

are you a ***? I was wondering if his style really was as powerful as it seemed.

yup its really powerfull

one question though wer you get this info??
wikipedia?

i still dont get what the point of this is

weve all heard of wikipedia, i mean i know plagues pops a boner over the site and has to post everything from it but you too? jeez

And we have a first fight of the thread. Who will win? Stay toned.

Originally posted by darth zamorak
yup its really powerfull

one question though wer you get this info??
wikipedia?

is it that obvious?

Originally posted by Human Vader
i still dont get what the point of this is

weve all heard of wikipedia, i mean i know plagues pops a boner over the site and has to post everything from it but you too? jeez

whats wrong with that site?? do u prefer Supershadow or some other crappy site. Wikepedia has good info, i dont see what the big problem is.

And the fight begins.

i posted some introduction info on his style and the history behind it. I wanna know if his syle is truly powerful enough to kill off any good sith.
The only two people who ever outclases him in lightsaber fighting was yoda and light side dooku. (before TPH till his death)

i never said anything about the site

its actually a really good site, ive learned tons about EU there. but i dont see what the point of posting all this shit is

The darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

wait so you asked people if mace's style was really powerfull???

yeah great quote........

anyways yeah mace could beat lots of sith

IMO the only ones who would give him trouble would be exar, revan, kreia and pall

this thread sucks...

The dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider...unnatural.

Sorry about that, its just that quote is so awesome!

many people would consider pamela anderson's breasts to be....unnatural

Here's a better one!
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.





STAR WARS
EPISODE III
REVENGE OF THE SITH

War! The Republic is crumbling under the attacks of the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. Evil is everywhere. They are heroes on both sides.

Originally posted by darth zamorak
many people would consider pamela anderson's breasts to be....unnatural

lol.

Originally posted by Human Vader
yeah great quote........

anyways yeah mace could beat lots of sith

IMO the only ones who would give him trouble would be exar, revan, kreia and pall

thats the point of this thread, i wanted to know if his style would give some sith a hard time.

how come theres heroes on both sides?? are evil people heroes??

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
thats the point of this thread, i wanted to know if his style would give some sith a hard time.

Ones style only counts for so much, what really matters is knowledge and raw power.

Heroes to the CIS are Assaj, Durge, Grievous, and of course Dooku.

Originally posted by darth zamorak
how come theres heroes on both sides?? are evil people heroes??

"From a certain point of view"

Originally posted by darth zamorak
this thread sucks...

I dont give a eopie's tattered ass what you think about my thread.

no its meant to be a metaphor to the war in iraq

everyones fighting for what they believe in and just because one side (the dumbass americans) see the iraqis as evil people, which they may be, it doesnt mean theyre not fighting for a noble cause.

Like the CIS taught they were doind but they were pons in the hands of the Emperor.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Ones style only counts for so much, what really matters is knowledge and raw power.

his style channels his true anger into power and he has much more knowledge than most sith or jedi.

it really pissed me off how he got killed in rots but it was cool when he used his style to beat sidious fair n square.

Jedi I think could defeat Mace:
Yoda
Obi-Wan ROTS
Qui-Gon (I don't think he would beat Mace I just want to see them fight and he was trained by Dooku who defeated Mace)
Luke NJO (Who can't he beat?)
Dooku (Before the dark times...before the Empire:Ben)
Kyle (I know you're going to argue with me over this one)

Originally posted by darth zamorak
it really pissed me off how he got killed in rots but it was cool when he used his style to beat sidious fair n square.
i agree he did beat sidious, some people see differently.

lol how could they see it diferently sidious even screamed plz dont kill meeee!! till anakin showed up......

Originally posted by General Zodiac
Jedi I think could defeat Mace:
Yoda
Obi-Wan ROTS
Qui-Gon (I don't think he would beat Mace I just want to see them fight and he was trained by Dooku who defeated Mace)
Luke NJO (Who can't he beat?)
Dooku (Before the dark times...before the Empire:Ben)
Kyle (I know you're going to argue with me over this one)

Who cares about dooku light. mace would own him when he was on the dark side.
LOl. Kyle even though is a great fighter would ultimately lose the fight, dont get me wrong he would make a great fighter, but mace doesnt just fight well against dark side users, he could channel dark powers into light powers and beat kyle.
Jinn is not a fighter, mace would win with ease. Just becuz dooku trained him doesnt mean anything. Yoda trained ki adi mundi, does that mean he is the best? no!
others i totally agree with.

People who could beat mace:

darth revan
yoda(mace admits yoda is better)
palpatine(He doesnt really lose to mace)
NJO luke
exar kun
marka ragnos
tulak hord
naga sadow
freedon nadd
ajunta pall
dooku(already beat him)
Shimrra
onimi


If you count "anomalies"

Darth nihilus
zonama sekot
zonama sekots father

Originally posted by darth zamorak
lol how could they see it diferently sidious even screamed plz dont kill meeee!! till anakin showed up......

It appears sidious has manipulated you as well...

how has he manipulated? sids was buying time, cuz he knew he could not win. when anakin came mace lost focuz on killing sids until the lightning incident.

palpatine(He doesnt really lose to mace)
freedon nadd
ajunta pall
dooku(already beat him)
Shimrra
onimi
zonama sekot
zonama sekots father
wth!!??

vengeance who are thopse people in your list??

Whos onimi??
whos shimra??
Whos zonama sekot??

forgive my ignorance

Originally posted by darth zamorak
vengeance who are thopse people in your list??

Whos onimi??
whos shimra??
Whos zonama sekot??

forgive my ignorance

NJO series...your ignorance is forgiven.

why thank you

what about tulak i think he would be a match to see.

and doesnt vapaad just give a llightside user the darkside strength in lightsaber combat?

yeah, so ure saying a light side ankin could own a dark side anakin:?
u make it sound like vaapad is worthless, imagine mace with lightside power right? now picture him using dark side strength as well. OWNAGE!

yea thats what i was sayin or atleast tryoin to