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Sorry to bring up NJO Luke, but could he defeat Sadow? There have been threads with him against Revan, Exar, ect, but I don't think he has ever gone against Sadow.

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zOMG...

*Steps aside for the mad charge of opinions*

lmao

sadow can win and this has been done with sadow pwning

Seriously? I didn't remember that. We need the search button back.

Um.

Why?

*Runs to avoid the answer*

This hasn't been done before.

I didn't think it had been.

If it had been done before, there would have been ten pages anti Luke and four pages for Luke.

In this case, I don't know. I actually can't say I'm one way or the other.

It's kinda hard to guess, really.

I haven't read NJO... Based on what I heard from some people he could win... On the other hand we know Sadow was damn powerful too... I don't know.. I'm saying Sadow though only because I don't like Luke and I want to have opinions without any reasons too.

how about you read NJO. until that why dont you just shut up

How about you stop annoying me and shut up yourself... Besides I have said it a million times already I refuse to read NJO because of the stupid things in those books.

Now I at least try to make an opinion based on what I know, and based on that I'm not really sure who would win this fight, probably NJO Luke. But like I said in my previous post, I hate NJO Luke so I will say Sadow, simply because I want to act like a noob too... Okay? Now move along.

you want to act like a noob. fish head you dont actually have to try. juust be yourself and you are a noob all of the way.

Please don't do that, Mr. birthoftheforce, sir. There is no need to become upset with someone whom you don't even know (unless you are someone's sock, though I shouldn't assume that sort of thing). However, please, sir, with all due respect, these statements really don't contribute. Sorry for this slight step-in. I hope that I don't upset you by saying this.

Peace be with you, sir.

Birthoftheforce and fishy please give it a rest you to are spreading hatred among this forum on every post. *Runs to where Janus is to hide from death threats*

Okay... If its annoying other people, I won't respond anymore.

personally im on your side fishy but, your above lttle teenages

Everybody here probably is, doesn't matter though I don't want to go around and ruing threads. I hate it when that happens so I don't want to do it myself.

Originally posted by birthoftheforce
how about you read NJO. until that why dont you just shut up

You must be Tommy Vercetti in disguise. You've been warned twice. You need to straighten up or ship out.

Originally posted by birthoftheforce
you want to act like a noob. fish head you dont actually have to try. juust be yourself and you are a noob all of the way. Ugh!.................................Horrible, horrible grammer.

You're either 11 or you never passed High School English.

Sadow. Both of them demonstrate powers on a cosmic level, but in many ways, NJO Luke has his powers blown out of proportion simply because he can take out users who don't even use the force. Naga Sadow has the ability to toy with even force users most consider powerful.

Besides, if people are arguing Revan can take out NJO Luke, Sadow would have even less of a problem.

Originally posted by Darth L. Dipsit
Please don't do that, Mr. birthoftheforce, sir. There is no need to become upset with someone whom you don't even know (unless you are someone's sock, though I shouldn't assume that sort of thing). However, please, sir, with all due respect, these statements really don't contribute. Sorry for this slight step-in. I hope that I don't upset you by saying this.

Peace be with you, sir.
Ahh you can always count on Dipsit to bring the peace.

Dipsit's got nerves of steel!

It's the whole thing about Luke resurrecting the Jedi Order, so as their leader he's allowed to contact Jesus and Allah and make them give him magical powers.

janus whats with all the changin lately it's cool just kind of confusing

Originally posted by Illustrious
Sadow. Both of them demonstrate powers on a cosmic level, but in many ways, NJO Luke has his powers blown out of proportion simply because he can take out users who don't even use the force. Naga Sadow has the ability to toy with even force users most consider powerful.

Besides, if people are arguing Revan can take out NJO Luke, Sadow would have even less of a problem.

That is assuming Revan can beat NJO Luke which probably isn't true...

Originally posted by Luke Is Better
janus whats with all the changin lately it's cool just kind of confusing

Just got restless. I think I'll stick with this one for awhile. If I change my name in the next week, I'll probably be denied.

Well this one is nice, Deus Ex is the best shooter/rpg IMO, and one of the best games ever... I absolutely love it.. Still play it once in a while when I don't have any new cool games..

Deus Ex 2 on the other hand I hate... But thats to be expected with a sequal to such a great game. Especially when the sequal gets releashed for X-box and PC, is rushed and has a smaller budget and is hyped till the end of december....

naga sadow and luke skywalker both have advanced force powers but naga sadow had stronger offensive skills whereas skywalker has better defensive force powers. sadow would destroy him.

Deus Ex Invisible War is a great game, but they really ruined it by making it a multiplatform game. It inherited console limitations, simplified action, and such, but I still like it.

I don't...

Just look at many things that made Deus Ex special.. Skills were gone, hitting certain body parts was gone. Augmentations were completely ruined.

The only thing that could have saved it was the story, which was great. But to easy to figure out and not fleshed out enough. After Cairo you just go into a whirlwind and then before you know the game is finished. You aren't forced to maky any choices, a clear sign of a rushed and unfinished game especially if you know what Warren Spector wanted to achieve...

I think he was more dissapointed by the game then any of the fans out there. Afterall he quit his job because of it. So I ussually just kinda ignore the existance of Deus Ex II.

Hm. The first one is damn good. But I still like Deus Ex II. For one thing, the atmosphere was incredible. If the original looked as good, I'd play it more. Also, it has a more in-depth feel than the original did; at least to me.

But it does need a serious overhaul. I hope that there is a third installment sometime soon.

I wouldn't count on it... Warren Spector quit Ion Storm went bankrupt and he is not selling the rights, he was dissapointed by Deus Ex II he doesn't want a third one.

And yeah II has something, but I don't think the graphics make up for much especially because the Graphics are still console based so still limited. I prefer a fully finished great game with a better story then to the thing Deus Ex II has.

Well damn... What a waste.

Ion Storm but too many of their eggs in one basket, and it backfired.

It usually does.

A pity Eidos can't continue on the legacy, but they are in bad straits with Lara "Has-Been" Croft.

I personally wouldn't trust Eidos to make a Deus Ex game. It seems like most of the truly "great" game producers tend to be in dire straights right now, while those that simply produce games for the "market" are doing well.

That's how it always is. Of course, good game developers tend to sit on their hands for extended periods of time or get rushed and have low budgets. Look at Rare for instance- Microsoft bought them for five times the amount that they bought Bungie and they haven't made a good quality game for Xbox YET.

many people thought kun can beat Luke and Sadow can beat Kun so ...yea

Since when has the general consensus of forum-members been a basis for a successful argument?

what im sleepy say that with small words (school sucked)

Tsk. I have to catch a ride at goddamn 6:20 now, with all these damn schedule changes and whatnot. You shouldn't be complaining.

now can you use small words or better someone else explain it since youre in a bad mood (not sarcastic)

Guys, I get up at five thirty tomorrow for some crap thing at school, go I beat both you. Thing is, I wish i wasn't able to beat either of you in that reguard.

lets stop complaining and can someone explain to me what Faunus said

He said he has to get a ride at 6:20 and for you to stop complaining .

haha before that

He said that just because most people on the forum lead one way doesn't mean it is true.

well if im not mistaking Faunus said it is true

Whether or not he believes it is true, he is still saying that general feeling doesn't make or break a fight. That doesn't mean he is arguning against.

Originally posted by Illustrious
I personally wouldn't trust Eidos to make a Deus Ex game. It seems like most of the truly "great" game producers tend to be in dire straights right now, while those that simply produce games for the "market" are doing well.

Which is a dead shame... Games want to become an average game that appeals to many different people so that it will sell better. Deus Ex without any doubt one of the greatest games ever sold 1 million copy's, Deus Ex II sold far more, even though it wasn't a better game by any standards but graphics and a slightly improved AI.

Or just look at Enter the Matrix, sold five million copy's when the game sucked, the devs however never made a game like that before and always had great games but they didn't sell all that well. Conclusion make your game popular and you make more money. No reason most good games don't get finished anymore.

Originally posted by Fishy
That is assuming Revan can beat NJO Luke which probably isn't true... Of course it's not true...NJO Luke--powers of Allah.

Sadow throttles him with his hands.

luke cant beat revan or sadow

Sadow becomes a lot more powerful in the force for example blowing up stars. Luke never did anything that great

Remind me again, when would Luke have a reason to blow up a star? He's on the lightside of the force, the good side of the force.. Blowing up stars isn't really a good thing to do.