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what is the logic that the exile being more powerful than revan?

Who ever said that he is?

Originally posted by calvin44
what is the logic that the exile being more powerful than revan?

No logic required.

Kreia-"You are the strongest I have ever trained." (To Exile)

Yet the Exile still served Revan? Note that she didn't know Revan's power from the last several years.

thanks for staying on topic glentract. i know what kreia said, that is what inspired me to start this thread, but what is her reasoning for this statement.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Yet the Exile still served Revan? Note that she didn't know Revan's power from the last several years.

The Exile served Revan before malachor, alot has changed since then. And for the second point we dont know if Revan has gotten any stronger since he left, until Kotor III its speculation. Again till Kotor III atleast, Kreias quote trumps any points in Revans favor.

Notice that Kreia loved the Exile so much because of his rare force ability. We really shouldn't take her word as fact as she is a liar.

Also note that by the end of KOTOR 1 Revan was more powerful then he had been when the Exile served under him.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Notice that Kreia loved the Exile so much because of his rare force ability. We really shouldn't take her word as fact as she is a liar.

Also note that by the end of KOTOR 1 Revan was more powerful then he had been when the Exile served under him.

dont forget that she was in love with revan too.
can she feel their powers throught the force depending on echoes?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Notice that Kreia loved the Exile so much because of his rare force ability. We really shouldn't take her word as fact as she is a liar.

Also note that by the end of KOTOR 1 Revan was more powerful then he had been when the Exile served under him.

1.How would lieing serve her any purpose at all? I dont see any reason to say that unless it was the truth. Kreia isnt soft, she wouldnt make up some crap to make Exile feel better about himself, the only thing that makes sense is that Exile truly was more powerful than Revan and Kreia was expressing her admiration.

2.Probably, and the Exile grew alot of power in Kotor II...Whats your point?

God...not this ancient argument again!

I can't even begin to remember how many threads this argument has taken place in.

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Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Notice that Kreia loved the Exile so much because of his rare force ability. We really shouldn't take her word as fact as she is a liar.

Also note that by the end of KOTOR 1 Revan was more powerful then he had been when the Exile served under him.
she said he was more powerful than revan right before she died, it would not help her to lie, unless she wanted to kill the exile,by sending him after revan, to his death.

Originally posted by Captain REX
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you realized no one would quote you, so you quoted yourself. interesting.

That quote is off guard. The Exile and indeed hardly anyone in the history of the galaxy could hope to be as powerful as Nihilus, even without the draining ability.

Yet she still syas it.

this thread is..................
my hand itches *scratches hand*

She says he's the strongest she's TRAINED. Revan wasn't as powerful when he was trained by Kreia. Time goes on.

Well, most of the points that can be brought up are either gameplay (nothing to do with LV though), that being said, there's nothing to say that Exile isn't as tough. Besides that quote, we know the Exile becomes stronger than any of the masters, learns a number of lightsaber styles, and, if you went darkside, gained an incredibly destructive force power, or a powerful support power on lightside. On top of all this, he gains the battle precognition like Revan. Based on this, I think the Exile has more than a fighting chance at besting Revan.

As far as that quotes concerned, it can be interpreted a number of different ways. As it's already been said, Kreia hadn't seen Revan since the mandalorian wars so her opinion may be a bit off. However, it's also fair to mention that Kreia known what happened to Revan during the Civil war. Also, Kreia has proven herself to be a seer of amazing power, I find it unlikely that she would have no clue as to her favorite students current power. Take it for what you will.

I think D CP is probably right.

Understandable, but the other points still stand.

Originally posted by Pwned61
As far as that quotes concerned, it can be interpreted a number of different ways. As it's already been said, Kreia hadn't seen Revan since the mandalorian wars so her opinion may be a bit off. However, it's also fair to mention that Kreia known what happened to Revan during the Civil war. Also, Kreia has proven herself to be a seer of amazing power, I find it unlikely that she would have no clue as to her favorite students current power. Take it for what you will.

During the first civil war when he was the DLOS, it's probable that she knew Revans power. But after he got his memory wiped, no. Remember, he was far more powerful after the memory wipe.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
That quote is off guard. The Exile and indeed hardly anyone in the history of the galaxy could hope to be as powerful as Nihilus, even without the draining ability.

The Exile defeated Nihilus...

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
The Exile defeated Nihilus...

Only because he was a wound in the force.

Originally posted by D_CP
She says he's the strongest she's TRAINED. Revan wasn't as powerful when he was trained by Kreia. Time goes on.

Dont dodge the facts, why would Kreia bother to compare the two at precisely the end of their training? No, it makes more sense that Kreia compared both at the peak of their power.

Originally posted by D_CP
Only because he was a wound in the force.

Regardless of the reason he was able to do so, the Exile defeated him. The validity of Kreias quote still stands.

Originally posted by Great Vengeance
Regardless of the reason he was able to do so, the Exile defeated him. The validity of Kreias quote still stands.

So if I threw a poisoned tipped pen into the back a US Navy seal and killed him that would make me a better warrior?

Originally posted by Darth Traya
That quote is off guard. The Exile and indeed hardly anyone in the history of the galaxy could hope to be as powerful as Nihilus, even without the draining ability.
what inspires you to say this, and what proof do you have?( and please dont tell me about cut scenes from kotor 2 where "nihilus curbstomps sion", as that seems to be your answer to everything.)

Originally posted by calvin44
what inspires you to say this, and what proof do you have?( and please dont tell me about cut scenes from kotor 2 where "nihilus curbstomps sion", as that seems to be your answer to everything.)

My reasons:

Nihilus is able to keep his ship intact through the sheer power of his will. His ship is basically a wreck, yet he still manages to keep it intact.

Nihilus can drain the force. Not only can he drain the force, he has displayed aptitude at controlling it.

Traya describes Nihilus as a threat to the fabric of the universe and to my knowledge, no other being has ever been a threat to the fabric of the universe.

Nihilus was able to casually (the gameplay bracket says this) blast Sion, a fairly experienced Sith Lord, forty feet backwards, whilst dissolving some of his own crewmembers from it's sheer intensity.

Nihilus is able to take down Traya with ease, Traya being able to annihalate the three senior members of the order at that time!

My reasons...

Dealt with before. Closed.