darth krayt vs. darth sidious
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Null ARC Avis
we know nothing about Kryt other than he was the leader of the sith. Until further notice this thread is pointless.
Razielim
I could tell you right now that Krayt is gonna be uber. Stradley loves overemphasizing his creations and Krayt's well over 100 years old.
Lightsnake
Yeah, Krayt's gonna be intensly powerful, but I doubt he'll reach Palpatine's level. In Betrayal they called Palpatine the most powerful force of destruction the galaxy'd ever seen pretty much
Count Kent
Krayt would win.
Lightsnake
Kent, shut the **** up and get off these forums
clan
Well seeing as Darth Krayt is really Jacen Solo and therefore a descendant of the chosen one his Force and therfore his Sith abilities would be much more powerful. He also over 100 years old by the time of the legacy series so he has more experience's then sidious... Look what Jacen learned in the first 20 years about using the Force. Imagine 100 years of knowledge?
Count Kent
Krayt is incredible. The only active characters in the EU of SW who are more powerful are Revan and Luke Skywalker.
Lightsnake
Where'd you get this info?
And Krayt's not Jacen.
Lightsnake
No he's not Ostrander practically confirmed it and Dark orse said the Legacy series won't have to do with eachother
Count Kent
Ever heard of such a thing as a PLOT TWIST or SURPRISE .
Lightsnake
Ever heard of 'Creator's word being true?'
Ostrander has said there won't be any familiar characters from the Del Ray books
Dark orse said Legacy will be totally apart and have nothing to do with LOTF
Count Kent
Skywalker = Familiar.
Lightsnake
I'm afraid no Skywalkers we've seen before have appeared
Count Kent
THE SKYWALKER legacy = FAMILIAR.
Lightsnake
A family is not a collective character
Count Kent
I said Legacy, not family.
Captain REX
Krayt is NOT Jacen. Ostrander has confirmed. On top of that, Krayt was born (under another name of course) AFTER the Yuuzhan Vong War. Jacen was already in his 30's.
And that the Skywalkers have appeared in the Legacy comics is a completely different story than Luke Skywalker and Ben Skywalker being in the comic. We've had Kol, Luke's grandson, and Cade, Kol's son.
Anyways, I'm going to say that Krayt would lose to Sidious in a battle of the Force and probably in a battle of lightsabers. Krayt is a newbie Sith, self-trained, and while he appears to be powerful and so on, I don't think he'll present the same threat that Sidious was.
Count Kent
Well what would you know jackass.
Captain REX
A lot more than you will ever know.

Escape81
Originally posted by Count Kent
Well what would you know jackass.
Erm . . . he'd know a lot more than someone who:
- Thinks Mace Windu owns all.
- Thinks that there's a KotoR sourcebook.
- Thinks that Revan owns Mace Windu.
- Thinks that Revan can harness "the true light" or whatever the hell you say he does.
- Thinks that Revan is greater than DE Sidious.
- Thinks that Mace is greater than Yoda or Sidious.
You are Supershadow's scion. I'm sure of it, rofl.
Captain REX
You mean Supershadow's Darth Sion? When did that happen? scared
Lord Saboteur
Originally posted by Captain REX
You mean Supershadow's Darth Sion? When did that happen? scared When he was born.
Blue_Hefner
On topic, I think Sidious wins since he has force storm and I dont know much about Krayt
Captain REX
Force Storm isn't all that great a power unless you want to commit suicide with the Force.

Escape81
Originally posted by Captain REX
Force Storm isn't all that great a power unless you want to commit suicide with the Force.
Huh?
Captain REX
Palpatine killed himself with that power.

Escape81
Originally posted by Captain REX
Palpatine killed himself with that power.
Touche.
But, due to intervention from three Skywalkers.
I wonder what the hell he thought when it consumed him . . .
Captain REX
Palpy: ...well this sucks...
Escape81
Originally posted by Captain REX
Palpy: ...well this sucks...
Palpy: I was going to reform my Empire, and I would've gotten away with it to if it weren't for you pesky kids and that meddling fetus!
DE Luke
Originally posted by Escape81
Palpy: I was going to reform my Empire, and I would've gotten away with it to if it weren't for you pesky kids and that meddling fetus!

Escape81
Or maybe he didn't care, considering he had dozens of clones. Personally, I would've just been pissed about the Eclipse.
Isn't it the largest Star Destroyer ever created?
Lightsnake
Probably something along the lines of: "...did I remember to turn the Eclipse's lights off?"
Captain REX
The Eclipse was the largest Star Destroyer made...until the Eclipse II. Just a tad bigger. Both had super lasers though....

Escape81
Originally posted by Lightsnake
Probably something along the lines of: "...did I remember to turn the Eclipse's lights off?"
Is it the largest ever?
Captain REX
Originally posted by Captain REX
The Eclipse was the largest Star Destroyer made...until the Eclipse II. Just a tad bigger. Both had super lasers though....

DE Luke
Still,it is stupid that he got killed by Han Solo in the end.Shouldve been Luke that'd done him in,or Leia atleast ,but Han?Come on....
Captain REX
It's just what that yellow bastard deserves. pirate
Escape81
Originally posted by DE Luke
Still,it is stupid that he got killed by Han Solo in the end.Shouldve been Luke that'd done him in,or Leia atleast ,but Han?Come on....
Palpatine's final tirade of blasting everyone with Force lightning had weakened him enough that Luke planned on bringing him into custody. Han, though - I suppose - was pissed at his wife being electrocuted and that the Emperor was trying to possess his son.
I suppose that it's an okay death. Certainly unexpected.
DE Luke
Agreed,but I still don't like it.Does anyone besides me also think that Luke's robes in the series are better than the one's in ROTJ?
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by REXXXX
Krayt is NOT Jacen. Ostrander has confirmed. On top of that, Krayt was born (under another name of course) AFTER the Yuuzhan Vong War. Jacen was already in his 30's.
And that the Skywalkers have appeared in the Legacy comics is a completely different story than Luke Skywalker and Ben Skywalker being in the comic. We've had Kol, Luke's grandson, and Cade, Kol's son.
Anyways, I'm going to say that Krayt would lose to Sidious in a battle of the Force and probably in a battle of lightsabers. Krayt is a newbie Sith, self-trained, and while he appears to be powerful and so on, I don't think he'll present the same threat that Sidious was. kraeyt was born before the execution of order 66 spending time in sith temples and reamerging to fight lords Vader and sidious only to find out they had already been dealt with. Feeling purposeless he ventured into the unknowns being captured by the vong and implanted with vong coral seeds which would slowly continue to grow and destroy him presumably in stasis during the time of jacen since he lived to be around 150 years old. Ima go back and establish a stronger base although I haven't read about him in a while, born as asharred hett he would go on to train in the ways of the Jedi a while before order 66. His preferred lightsaber form was Niman and arguably was the best niman specialist ever.theres a lot more but that's a very very very small summary with none of his feats.
DarthAnt66
Dude, what's wrong with you.
DarthAnt66
Holy shit, lmfao. ^ Dude, these posts you're responding to are from 2006. Christ.
UCanShootMyNova
Where'd you come up with your name TgK?
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Holy shit, lmfao. ^ Dude, these posts you're responding to are from 2006. Christ. 😂😂 clicked thread starter clicked the first one I thought I could actually talk about😭 Sorry 😐
DarthAnt66
All good.

Geistalt
Yeah; no.
Krayt doesn't get "strongest Sith Lord ever" hype. Or feats (aside from using Dark Transfer in the grave).
UCanShootMyNova
But he = to Luke on Throne of Balance and GM Luke = FP Anakin.
Lel wut a screb.
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Where'd you come up with your name TgK? honestly I don't even know at this point
TgK
TheGreatKid and wind renegade is a fart joke
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by Geistalt
Yeah; no.
Krayt doesn't get "strongest Sith Lord ever" hype. Or feats (aside from using Dark Transfer from the grave). I go by George Lucas sidious is still the strongest sith but kraeyt... is underrated in my eyes
TgKWindRenegade
I have resurrected a dead thread, can I be considered the strongest being now?
DarthAnt66
Originally posted by TgKWindRenegade
I go by George Lucas sidious is still the strongest sith but kraeyt... is underrated in my eyes
Lucas never stated Palpatine was the strongest (that's a myth), but a lot of other sources do including those who worked alongside Lucas.
Palpatine's definitely better than Krayt.
Geistalt
Originally posted by TgKWindRenegade
I go by George Lucas sidious is still the strongest sith but kraeyt... is underrated in my eyes Agreed. Definitely > Vader and the Ancients (sans Valkorion).
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Lucas never stated Palpatine was the strongest (that's a myth), but a lot of other sources do including those who worked alongside Lucas. and now I'm gonna go cry myself to sleep
UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Not even remotely.
Lmaooooo. GM Luke was the Heart of the Force and mastered both the Light and Darksides screb.
Crybaby Anakin cu-nt cumpear.
Git gud.
DarthAnt66
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
GM Luke was the Heart of the Force and mastered both the Light and Darksides screb..
I thought that was Revan?
UCanShootMyNova
Nah. U rong.
Geistalt
I thot Az was rong tho.
UCanShootMyNova
Dey both rong.
DarthAnt66
General rule of thumb: Az is always wrong.

UCanShootMyNova
I've been trying to pull strings to get Miko and Azzie in a Sidious vs Nihilus debate. It'll be highly entertaining if my predictions are accurate.
TgKWindRenegade
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I've been trying to pull strings to get Miko and Azzie in a Sidious vs Nihilus debate. It'll be highly entertaining if my predictions are accurate. no idea who they are but send me a message if I can do anything😂👌🏽
Azronger
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
I've been trying to pull strings to get Miko and Azzie in a Sidious vs Nihilus debate. It'll be highly entertaining if my predictions are accurate.
You don't have to "pull strings", lmao. Just ask.
Azronger
On topic: Krayt vs TPM Sidious is a somewhat good fight, although Sidious still wins. Any incarnation past that stomps Krayt.
Azronger
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
General rule of thumb: Az is always wrong.
I recently called you an intelligent debater. According to you, I always wrong, though, so I guess you're a retard from now on

Geistalt
You still haven't offered any opinion for the Sidious vs. Nihilus thread.
Unbowed
Originally posted by Geistalt
Yeah; no.
Krayt doesn't get "strongest Sith Lord ever" hype. Or feats (aside from using Dark Transfer in the grave).
That's the problem with this forum.
In FOTJ: Apocalypse Krayt had a very strong showing, had feats that put him on par with a version of Luke that was far superior to the one in DE. Both of them basically fought a demi-god in a metaphysical battle of pure Force power and will and came out alive.
On top of that he has the Dark Transfer, an ability which both Sidious and Plagueis spent their whole lives searching for and never achieved. And he has feats that neither of them ever displayed, such as the Shatterpoint, using drain in combat or resisting the illusions of a prodigious sorcerer.
And it was also revealed that Krayt was the "dark man" that Luke was having visions/nightmares about for a very long time.
Now reasonable men can always differ, in light of all of the above I would expect anyone to acknowledge that case could be made for Krayt, at the very least.
But no. Why go through the trouble of thinking when you can argue ad nauseam about publisher blurbs are canon or whether quotes from 20 years ago apply to characters who hadn't been created yet.
It's all about the quotes.

ares834
Originally posted by Azronger
I recently called you an intelligent debater. According to you, I always wrong, though, so I guess you're a retard from now on
gotem
DarthAnt66
Originally posted by Azronger
I recently called you an intelligent debater. According to you, I always wrong, though, so I guess you're a retard from now on
toasted
NewGuy01
Originally posted by REXXXX
Krayt is NOT Jacen. Ostrander has confirmed. On top of that, Krayt was born (under another name of course) AFTER the Yuuzhan Vong War. Jacen was already in his 30's.
kek
Azronger
Originally posted by Unbowed
That's the problem with this forum.
In FOTJ: Apocalypse Krayt had a very strong showing, had feats that put him on par with a version of Luke that was far superior to the one in DE. Both of them basically fought a demi-god in a metaphysical battle of pure Force power and will and came out alive.
On top of that he has the Dark Transfer, an ability which both Sidious and Plagueis spent their whole lives searching for and never achieved. And he has feats that neither of them ever displayed, such as the Shatterpoint, using drain in combat or resisting the illusions of a prodigious sorcerer.
And it was also revealed that Krayt was the "dark man" that Luke was having visions/nightmares about for a very long time.
Now reasonable men can always differ, in light of all of the above I would expect anyone to acknowledge that case could be made for Krayt, at the very least.
But no. Why go through the trouble of thinking when you can argue ad nauseam about publisher blurbs are canon or whether quotes from 20 years ago apply to characters who hadn't been created yet.
It's all about the quotes.
A case can definitely be made. Krayt is not bound by Palpatine's quotes of supremacy, unlike the Sith who preceeded the Emperor. You might find making a case reliant of feats very difficult, though, but I'm willing to hear it if you will.
Nothing you've mentioned so far put Krayt in Palpatine's league, though. The Abeloth feat is great, but Krayt didn't actually do anything that would establish parity with Luke.
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