Yoda & DN Luke vs. Ludo Kressh & Naga Sadow
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General Kon-El
Yoda & Dark Nest Luke against Ludo Kressh and Naga Sadow. Force battle only. Who will win?
GM Nebaris
Luke would be able to do it alone, easily...
Darth Sexy
lol.I would put Luke on par with Sadow and Kressh or maybe slightly better. Yoda would get tooled by either one of these guys.. Since this is a versus fight and not feat wars the ancient sith will probably win this one after they take out yoda and gang up on old luke.
GM Nebaris
Luke just instantkills them with EL, in about 5 seconds. Case closed.
Darth Sexy
Oh lord.. Not this instakill debate..I'm going to guess none of you have read SW books and just going by sheer instinct or wikipedia. Since when is Luke able to just use it anytime he wants? By that logic Kun would have used his amulet 24/7, Sidious would have used his force storm 24/7, etc. It doesn't work that way. Sadow has shown feats that are on par with Luke, and some that are more impressive to show his dark side mastery. Luke has shown feats far more impressive than Sadow as well. You have Yoda who is the weak link here so either sith lord will take him out and together Luke can't match the raw power and force abilities of Sadow and Kressh.
GM Nebaris
Excuse me, but how would he not be able to use it anytime? I think you'll find that he only uses it in the books very rarely for plot necessity.
Darth Sexy
Luke used his instakill ONCE against the Supreme Overlord. You saying he can use it anytime he wants is like saying Kun can use his amulet anytime he wants. Unfortunately Luke has never shown to use it against a powerful force user.
GM Nebaris
Sadow hasn't shown the ability to do jack against a powerful force user...
And Luke also used it against force sensitive Killiks.
Darth Sexy
Killiks are powerful force users? Sadow ripped out the core of the sun using his sith magic. "Oh but it was the ship". Way to downplay his power. Sadow was also the second most powerful of the ancient sith behind Ragnos. You're arguing that because Sadow didn't show to have fought jedi, then he can't? Absence of proof isn't proof of absence.
kamikz
WTF! Because he used it once he can never do it again? THat's very poor logic. Luke wasn't exactly, "Zomg WOWz I made a cool attack, I will never do it again", he was quite calm while he did it, he knew what he did. Kun did use his amulet again, but he never faced a threat big enough for him to use it 24/7. Sidious has shown to be able to use a force storm whenever he wants to, he just didn't always do it.
And it was Sadow's ship that made the stars go supernova.
Darth Sexy
And you're missing the point. You're thinking Luke can insta kill just anybody, including powerful force users and sith alchemists. While I'm saying Sadow could just as well use his amulet on Luke as fast as Luke can use his instakill on Sadow. AKA not a very good argument considering their decisive force powers are rather inconclusive.
Lightsnake
*Yawn!* Nope, Yoda and Luke are both stronger than these guys! Yoda? Strongest Jedi aside from Luke. Sources state Sadow used an electrical weapon and terrible Sith technology! Sorry!
You lose
Darth Sexy
Where are these sources? Oh wait, just like your "Anderson" source! Oh yea we've never seen it. Yoda wouldn't be able to contend with mostly anyone from the ancient times, but your hatred for anything other than the new SW is evident. Sorry, no evidence=loss.
Oh yea, and Sadow CREATED this "weapon" lol.
kamikz
Did you read what I said? I never even mentioned him doing it on a powerful sith lord, I answered to your "he can't do it again" statement.
GM Nebaris
Ha ha, Sexy got pwned.
Darth Sexy
Kamikz I never said he couldn't do it again, I said its foolish to think that he would do it 24/7.
Darth Sexy
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Ha ha, Sexy got pwned.
That means you have no argument nor proof and you don't want to get owned? Thought so.
kamikz
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Where are these sources? Oh wait, just like your "Anderson" source! Oh yea we've never seen it. Yoda wouldn't be able to contend with mostly anyone from the ancient times, but your hatred for anything other than the new SW is evident. Sorry, no evidence=loss.
Oh yea, and Sadow CREATED this "weapon" lol.
Lol, actually it is the ancient sith that lack evidence. And when it has been stated by the one WHO MADE THAT SCENE WITH SADOW, I think it pretty much overrules what YOU think happened....
kamikz
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Kamikz I never said he couldn't do it again, I said its foolish to think that he would do it 24/7.
Uh no. To quote you....
" lord.. Not this instakill debate..I'm going to guess none of you have read SW books and just going by sheer instinct or wikipedia. Since when is Luke able to just use it anytime he wants"
Darth Sexy
Yes, that means "Since when can luke use it 24/7" lol. That isn't an ambiguous statement, it is easy to understand. And again you keep talking about all this proof about Anderson, yet you can't provide a valid quote. That's like me saying "the ferrari is better than the lambhorgini, trust me". Provide a quote or don't use that as an argument as it serves no purpose.
GM Nebaris
Actually it's kind of like you saying 'Sadow can swing his sword as quickly as a saber, trust me'.
Darth Sexy
Hey, look at the scans on GAOTS, you notice the little traces left behind in the fight with Sadow and Kressh? What does that mean to you? At least I can provide significant proof lol.
kamikz
Yes, Lightsnake has posted the quotes in earlier threads, and I don't have time to look it up for the time being. So either you could look it up or you could wait until LS or anyone else (or I) have time to look it up. In the time being, you don't have to belive it....
And "since when can Luke use it whenever he want" is exactly what it sounds like. That statement is asking if Luke can do it whenever he wants, and yes he can. That he would use it 24/7 is another question, and no he did not because of plot line, but he could....
Lightsnake
Never seen it? Moron, I posted the scan on Janus's site! I posted the Veitch emails-scanned on this site! ROTS novelization calls Yoda the greatest foe of the darkness and strongest Jedi master of all time.
Try again, I'm loving this
Darth Sexy
Yea I can tell youre loving this, getting angry like a little girl because you can't simply post the proof on here, and continuing to parade around your ambiguous text argument. I'm sure everyone else is loving this as well. And no, the novel does NOT call him the greatest jedi of all time, stop lying to yourself, thanks.
kamikz
Actually Darth, your the one that haven't shown proof, you've shown your opinion...
Lightsnake
Actually the novel does. In fact, I can provide more
Power of the Jedi
AOTC comics adaptation
ROTS novelization: strongest foe the Darkness had ever known.
Kthxbye, stfu
Darth Sexy
but lightsnake, you said they called him the greatest jedi ever? What happened to that? OH wait, making ridiculous quotes to boost a character ISNT your style. And Kamikz, you keep telling me I have only provided my opinion, but you haven't provided anything other than yours..
And lightsnake, Dooku's opinion isn't canon, sorry buddy. When Dooku ponders upon Yoda turning to the dark side, it doesn't make it a fact. I don't even know why you're arguing that point because it's an opinion of a character, nothing more.
kamikz
Give me your proof then, post all your proof here.
GM Nebaris
Originally posted by TDTD
Yea I can tell youre loving this, getting angry like a little girl because you can't simply post the proof on here, and continuing to parade around your ambiguous text argument. I'm sure everyone else is loving this as well. And no, the novel does NOT call him the greatest jedi of all time, stop lying to yourself, thanks. It actually does.
Darth Sexy
name what you want, and I want the anderson thing too instead of someone telling me "Well its already been posted".
Darth Sexy
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
It actually does.
Nebaris when I want your opinion I will ask lightsnake, as you ride other people's arguments and not have any of your own.
Lightsnake
Alright: Go to Edge of Destiny and look up the scan in the Off Topic page with the sticky posts. Have fun
Darth Sexy
again, link me please..
Lightsnake
I'm not looking through dozens of topics and posts.
http://s15.************.com/The_Edge_of_Destiny/index.php?
there you go, find it yourself
Darth Sexy
What kind of link is that? Lol..
Lightsnake
http://s15.************.com/The_Edge_of_Destiny/index.php?
Escape81
Originally posted by Darth Sexy
What kind of link is that? Lol..
They won't allow links to be posted here. You have to replace the asterisks with the given "website".
Darth Sexy
Oh my mistake, I didn't know that was a rule.. I'll look it up and get back to you.
Escape81
Originally posted by Lightsnake
...what.
Click on your link. It doesn't work. The type of forum used for The Edge of Destiny, for some reason, doesn't work on links around here.
Darth Sexy
Yea I noticed that, if you can PM the link that'll be great.
Lightsnake
Escape, would you mind?
darthsith19
Naga holds Luke off. Ludo kills Yoda. Then Ludo and Naga tpgether overwhelm Luke.
Darth Sexy
Sounds about right.
Lightsnake
And Darthsith proves AGAIN, he's incapable of following a debate. Naga tries to hold Luke off and Luke plows through him. Ludo is also totally incapable of killing Yoda
Darth Sexy
And lightsnake has shown that he is unable to use common sense and logic, while providing enough evidence to point out his TOTJ hatred..
Sadow destroys Yoda, most likely with his amulet before Luke has a chance to beat Kressh, or they stalemate, and the two take out Luke..
Lightsnake
Yoda= strongest Jedi ever except Luke. Yoda is the strongest foe the darkness has ever known...Since Naga is far from the strongest Sith and Yoda can destroy armies on his own...
And Luke'd kill these two himself.
Darth Sexy
Hey thats wonderful, because Yoda being the strongest foe according to Dooku says absolutely nothing how he would fair against very powerful, if not the most powerful sith. I don't even need to say anything about your thread lightsnake. A chuckle is all it has warranted.
But I guess the term "Fanboyism" cannot even begin to describe your post.
Lightsnake
Except the NARRARATION states Yoda's said strongest...when DOOKU'S LONG DEAD! Liar!
Darth Sexy
strongest compared to WHAT exactly, compared to WHAT Sith. The word idiot comes to mind but I must follow the rules, so I will call you a blubbering moron only once.
Lightsnake
Strongest foe the darkness had ever known in direct reference to combsat AND strongest Jedi in history.
This is my last post to you, trolly boy
Darth Sexy
Awww lightsnake can't comprehend the concept of a troll? Can't form coherent sentences or valid arguments unless you list ambiguous text? Can't seem to quantify that line you repeatedly stated? It's obvious your lack of logic means you are fumed, so cool down and come back when you have something to show.
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