Shaak Ti versus Saesee Tinn
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Archangelysses
Saessee Tiin.
Shaak Ti got owned by greivous
GM Nebaris
I'd also like to point out that Tinn uses Schien, which naturally counters Shaak Ti's Makashi.
Archangelysses
However, being beheaded might make it difficult to win.
Shaak Ti only got stabbed through the torso. Could still crawl away methinks
kamikz
Originally posted by Archangelysses
Saessee Tiin.
Shaak Ti got owned by greivous
And Saessee Tiin would do better against CW Grievous? I think not....
darthsith19
Well, Shaak Ti took out countless Magnaguard's in the Clone Wars Cartoon while Saesee Tiin got pwnd by Sidious in one second. But he did take over a separatist Starship in the Clone Wars Cartoon with the help of some Clone Troopers, still, not as good as taking out like 10 Magnaguards while fending off 10 more. And Shaak Ti utilizes Makashi, so she has an edge over Saesee (anyone know what form he uses?)
GM Nebaris
Actually, when it comes to forms, Saesee is at the advantage because he utilises Schien (I'm pretty sure that it's schien).
darthsith19
Schien? Star wars Wikia doesn't know what your talking about and neither do I.
GM Nebaris
Well let's think logically. Most Niman users died at the battle of Geonosis. Kit Fisto is the only known Shi-Cho master at the time. Makashi is an ancient saber form and only a few jedi ever had a need to master it. Juyo was considered an incomplete form and I don't know any jedi who mstered the incomplete form. Even the saber instructors mastered every form with the exception of Juyo. And he clearly didn't master Vaapad. So this leads Ataru, Schien or Soresu (in my eyes), and judging from how he fights in the clone was cartoons, I'm pretty sure it's Schien or Djem So.
GM Nebaris
Anyway, when it comes to forms the only ones that makashi has an advantage over are Niman, Shii-Cho or Soresu, and he could have possibly mastered Soresu though I doubt it from the way he fights in the cartoons.
Rampant ox
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Anyway, when it comes to forms the only ones that makashi has an advantage over are Niman, Shii-Cho or Soresu, and he could have possibly mastered Soresu though I doubt it from the way he fights in the cartoons.
Wtf! Makashi is better at duelling than any other form - except possibly Vaapad. Duelling is what it was built and bred for. Djem So is beleived to be good against Makashi because of its brute strength. However I dont think this is proven...
GM Nebaris
Makashi is a great form, don't get me wrong. It was bred for graceful dueling and has elegence and class, however when up against an overwhelming form such as Djem So/Schien, Ataru or Juyo/Vaapad, it's really not too impressive as the user is not able to maintain the concentration that is required to utilise Makashi effectively. Remember, not every Makashi dueler is as great a dueler as Count Dooku. Count Dooku is extremely experienced and would thus be able to contend with almost anybody, superior form or not but someone like Shaak Ti would easily get overwhelmed by a Schien user imo.
Rampant ox
Originally posted by GM Nebaris
Makashi is a great form, don't get me wrong. It was bred for graceful dueling and has elegence and class, however when up against an overwhelming form such as Djem So/Schien, Ataru or Juyo/Vaapad, it's really not too impressive as the user is not able to maintain the concentration that is required to utilise Makashi effectively. Remember, not every Makashi dueler is as great a dueler as Count Dooku. Count Dooku is extremely experienced and would thus be able to contend with almost anybody, superior form or not but someone like Shaak Ti would easily get overwhelmed by a Schien user imo.
Fair enough. I was about to argue but your praising of Count Dooku put me in a good mood.

kamikz
Where is the proof that Shaak and Ki-Adi uses Makashi? I have asked this countless of times and no one answeres, my bet is wikipedia....
GM Nebaris
Ki-Adi doesn't use Makashi...
And proof is in Jedi Quest: The False Peace.
kamikz
Is that a book or comic? If it is a comic, is it at SWcomics.com?
GM Nebaris
No it's a book. I have it on my pc though, I can post the page if you want.
http://www.theforce.net/books/reviews/r_jedi-quest-9.asp
kamikz
Nah it's okay, I trust you, I just wanted to know where this stuff came from....
darthsith19
The ROTS novel always states that Shaak Ti uses Makashi. There was a user here last winter who provided proof that Mundi uses it, as well, but he was only here for like a week and then left and I can't remember what the proof was or what his SN was, but whatever.
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