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The setting is the Valley of the Jedi burial chamber.
The one where that huge mound is.

Both combatants are using their lightsabers and the Force.

Neither have the power of the Valley in them, they are fighting for possession of it.

Who wins?

Jerec most likley. Desann was strong but inexperienced, Jerec still had the power to completly immobilise people with the force, blow huge freakin things up with a beam of his hand (kinda like Exar's amulet) and could cut peoples force connections I belive....

Originally posted by kamikz
Jerec most likley. Desann was strong but inexperienced, Jerec still had the power to completly immobilise people with the force, blow huge freakin things up with a beam of his hand (kinda like Exar's amulet) and could cut peoples force connections I belive....


Damn Kamikz....you are F*cking smart....


Yeah, that "beam thing" was Force Dstruction, Btw.

Lol, thanks I guess...


K. Is Jerec the only one we have witnessed using that force power?

Hey, I was sincere.

Um, let's see... No, Kyle used it on Mara Jade in Mysteries of the Sith

I'll think If any others did also...

Hey, anybody else got somthing to say about this?

Or should Jerec just be declared the winner?

Ok, well did he use a power as powerful as Jerec? Damn that's something new for Kyle really, if it did at that devestating effect...

Kyle used a Force Destruction attack when he became seduced by the power of the Sith Temple on Dromund Kaas.
Mara Jade chased after him and tried to stop him from leaving but he turned around and stuck his hand out, sending a low-powered burst of Dark side energy at her that basicly winded her and knocked her flat.

A full powered blast could have blown her into peices.

Cool!

Originally posted by kamikz
Cool!


hehe...

Man, I gotta say, where are all the people who are supposed to defend Desann? I thought everyone thought he was god around here...

Not really, quite the opposite really...

In that case, Darth Maul Pwns Desann.

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
Kyle used a Force Destruction attack when he became seduced by the power of the Sith Temple on Dromund Kaas.
Mara Jade chased after him and tried to stop him from leaving but he turned around and stuck his hand out, sending a low-powered burst of Dark side energy at her that basicly winded her and knocked her flat.

A full powered blast could have blown her into peices.

i dont know about this but isnt light side canon because later in other gaes hes in lightside

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
In that case, Darth Maul Pwns Desann.



Maul???



And Desann is damn good, I would put his raw power above Jerec. However, Desann is to inexperienced and Jerec has been trained by Sidious among other people....

Dark Side Kyle could use in the non-canon path of JK.

bump.

I'm siding with Desann, tbh.

I thought Jerec was stated to be second only to Vader and the Emperor?

Desann actually stalemated Grand Master Luke Skywalker and even got the advantage at the end.

No. No, he didn't.

Bane dies

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
No. No, he didn't.

Temporarily buried Luke under the rubble. Good enough for me

He ran away and then got skewered by Kyle. While amped.

Luke could've chased him if he felt confident enough.

Aaand we have no idea how exactly Kyle has beaten him - there were numerous ways to do it. It was actually possible for the player to reactivate the beam and get "amped", too, don't forget.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Luke could've chased him if he felt confident enough.

Except he ran away at the same time Kyle ran in. Which is why he sent Kyle.

Which is all gameplay mechanics. What is canon is that Kyle fought Desann and killed him, and that Kyle is far weaker than Luke. At this point, he can't even sense someone's identity. All that said, Desann isn't even amped here, and he was when he fought Luke and Kyle.

What sort of an amp he had when he fought Luke?

....
The one from the Valley of the Jedi that powers his entire army everywhere they go? It's not like it cuts off when he leaves the Valley.

Been way too long since I played SP.

He has no real feats without said amp, then.

He does, lol.

Tking a structure with a gesture.

Literally ragdolling Kyle.

Killing some random Havet Storm.

Anyways. This goes to Jerec imo, we never saw his skill with the saber and we saw Desann do well against Skywalker so...

Desann wins for moi.

Originally posted by Darth Sexiest
The setting is the Valley of the Jedi burial chamber.
The one where that huge mound is.

Both combatants are using their lightsabers and the Force.

Neither have the power of the Valley in them, they are fighting for possession of it.

Who wins?

FINALY A MATCH UP THAT COME WITH DEAPTH TWO ANTAOGONNIST OF KYLE PUT AGAINST EACH OTHER YHEA !!!

Originally posted by Fated Xtasy
Anyways. This goes to Jerec imo, we never saw his skill with the saber and we saw Desann do well against Skywalker so...

Desann wins for moi.
wat

Also, can't really say we saw Desann do well against Luke since it's an AI controlled fight, as opposed to scripted. It's random every time and, and it's possible for one to kill the other if it glitches. It would be like saying Desann fighting the Luke bot in multiplayer is canon.

/ inb4somekekworthynonsenseaboutDesannbeingLukelevel

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
wat

It was 6 am, cut me some slack.



Ok that's fair enough.

Still, using some pretty bleh logic.

One could argue that Desann is above Jerec on certain aspects.

Jerec is second to/almost as powerful as Vader.

That's rad, but Desann's stated to be worse than the emperor, which is obviously hyperbolic but at the same time it's impressive that Luke holds him in a high regard, regardless of Luke's humble nature.

Desann's TK Is at the very least on par with Jerec's destructive FD. And being able to TK Luke is no small feat.

Also, depending on what you consider to be Canon. Kyle duels and bests Jerec in the audiodrama/video game and that Is due to his access to Tal's memories as well as his own skill, which is impressive for Kyle.

Now at the time of Jedi Outcast, his power has quadrupled due to the massive surge of power from the Valley, so he's evidently more powerful than Jerec now, and Desann has like wise had his power doubled.

It's also pretty impressive how despite his still developing power in JO, he is able to kill multiple Reborn, which are stated to be primarily duelists in the Dark Side sourcebook iirc(it's likely some other sourcebook but I digress))

So these two after the valley, are heavily, and permanently empowered, and they are canonically stated to have dueled each other with Desann giving Kyle a hard time in an insider journal.

Idk, to me this seems like Desann is the obvious winner in a duel. Due to either

A - Jerec having lost to a younger less experience Kyle(if you take the audiodrama/game at face value)

Or

B - Jerec lacks feats in dueling.

Or, C - the good ol' "high level jedi>Inquisitor"

But these are just my two cents.

Eh Kyle didn't really beat Jerec via skill or anything though...as I recall didn't he just more of less pull something of a Sever Force?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Eh Kyle didn't really beat Jerec via skill or anything though...as I recall didn't he just more of less pull something of a Sever Force?

Yeah, hence what I meant by.

"If we go by the Audiodrama/game"

The novel is the main canon one tho

Didn't the novel have the same thing though?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Didn't the novel have the same thing though?

No, actually.

In the novel Kyle takes Jerec by surprise by using wall of light and then Jerec loses his connection to the force, Kyle then tosses him his lightsaber and jerec attack, but Kyle counters and kills him.

bump

Jerec.

Jerec wins, yeah. He's collapsed bigger structures than Desann too, IIRC.