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Coruscant has been besieged by the Sith. They seek to destroy the planet and take it over. Each combatant has all of his his/her powers and abilities. Who is the last person standing?

I'd say Bane or Dooku.

Bastilla Shan isn't a Sith, she wast just for a very short tome, but came beck to the kight.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Bastilla Shan isn't a Sith, she wast just for a very short tome, but came beck to the kight.


Can she win though?

Exar Kun, Dooku, or Bane....

Hell no.

Bane or Kun

Agreed, Bane or Kun have this, and possibly Nadd too, he was likely a beast in his prime.

Oh damn, I didn't see Nadd there... yeah, Nadd could do it, too. I'd put Bane over Kun in a fight but Bane's never been to Coruscant ebfore so Kun could maybe last longer than him, too, I'm not sure. Bastilla and Maul are at the bottom...

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Coruscant has been besieged by the Sith. They seek to destroy the planet and take it over. Each combatant has all of his his/her powers and abilities. Who is the last person standing?
Freedon Nadd

I really see Traya coming out on top. She'd probably be smart enough to hide away somewhere on the opposite side of the planet while the others kill each other.

And if she couldn't kill whoever the weakened survivor is, my guess is Nadd frankly, then he'd win.

Id say Kun

Dooku- runs away.

I'd say that Exar is the most powerful of anyone here, but I doubt he is the last one standind. He'd probably be the target of several Sith a the same time because they'd know he could take any one of the individually. I'd give this to Traya or Lumiya. Like was said earlier, while the others are killing eachother she'll hide and then come out and kill anyone else. Lumiya would probably do the same thing and she is freakin strong too.

Yeah cuz tehyre cowards

Bane's definitely the most powerful here, in terms of pure strength and ability, but Exar's amulet blasts even it out. I'd still say Bane takes it though, the protection offered by his orbalisk armour would be extremely helpful in this kind of fight, as well as the way the orbalisks constantly revitalise him, and the fact that Bane's the most powerful here of course kind of seals the deal.

Hes only the most powerful in terms of strength and ability as you said, but NOT in saber skill or the Force. In those two, Kun is the best

Originally posted by Riverollv
Hes only the most powerful in terms of strength and ability as you said, but NOT in saber skill or the Force. In those two, Kun is the best
I don't know, Bane could possibly have Kun with the Force and with a saber, too, that's pretty close...

Originally posted by Riverollv
Hes only the most powerful in terms of strength and ability as you said, but NOT in saber skill or the Force. In those two, Kun is the best

That's not what I meant. What I meant was that Bane is just plain more powerful, which he is. Kun's amulet blasts would be useful in a battle like this, and would close the gap between them, but that's it, Bane's still more powerful, and he still likely takes this.

Yeah, it may be close, but I think Kun takes it

Perhaps I simply haven't paid enough attention, but where has it been proven that Bane's armor could stop Kun from putting an amulet bolt through his chest?

Originally posted by Gideon
Perhaps I simply haven't paid enough attention, but where has it been proven that Bane's armor could stop Kun from putting an amulet bolt through his chest?
It hasn't been proved, and I don't know about Master Bane, but since we don't know I personally call it a 50-50 chance and say that Bane vs. Kun is unknown because it all depends on whetehr or not the amulet blast can go through the Orbalisk armor.

If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?

Originally posted by Master Bane
If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?
Unless the amulet blasts are more pwoerful energy beams than lightsaber and are powerful enough that they can penetrate the armor. I suppose he could blast Bane in the head, too, though Bane could lkely dodge it. Bane's shield might not be big enough to block the blasts, maybe the amulets are hard or even impossible to destroy because they contain so much Sith magic in them. Nothing says that Bane is able to push the blasts back at Kun. He might be able to dodge them, too, yes, but the point is, a fight between them could go eitehr way depending on if the armor can block the blasts or not.

Originally posted by Master Bane
If my post implied that, then my bad. As for whether the blasts can get through the armour, they can't, given that not even lightsabers can, and both are energy based beams, however they would still be able to get through the minor gaps in the armour. But so what? What's honestly stopping Bane from destroying Kun's amulets, pushing the blasts back at Kun, attacking Kun before he can use them, dodging them, or simply blocking them with a force shield?

The power of an amulet blast is much more potent than one from a lightsaber, and it multiplies with Kun's rage. So, if Bane gets him really pissed, your boy is toast. There's nothing to suggest that the Orbalisks can stop the blasts - and, as you say - it can indeed get through the gaps in the armor.

One shot, and Bane falls dead.

Seriously, attacking Kun before he can use them? Is there some sort of start-up process that I'm not aware of? Destroying his amulets? How? Pushing them back? How? Prove that he can block it with a Force shield, as well.

Sorry, Nebaris, but the Bane fanboyism has a limit, and even implying that Bane's gonna just take him out of the fight with any semblance of ease is sheer stupidity.

Edit: Then, of course, Bane will have to handle a free-for-all fight with the other Sith Lords running chaotic about. Assuming that any of them have a shred of intelligence (if he does indeed kill Kun), they will likely team up against him ('cuz that's what Sith do), and then he's WTFpwned.

Well given the small fact about the minor gaps in the armour, the orbalisks are useless in the sense that they could solely stop the blasts, however while we're discussing it, where are amulet blasts shown to be more potent than the blade of a lightsaber? And only the magnitude of the blasts multiplies with Kun's rage (IIRC), not the sheer destructive power, so in the sense that whether the blasts can get through the armour or not, the whole rage multiplying thing is irrelevant.



For the amulet blasts? Well for the record, there's no proof that they're instantaneous, so there could well be a start-up process. My point is, if Bane somehow engages Kun before Kun is willing to use the amulets, then the amulet blasts would be pretty ineffective. I'm not saying that Bane can definitely act first, but it's possible, and I was just taking it into consideration.



Force crush? Force drain?



TK... If Bane can effect something like a moon with TK, amulet blasts shouldn't be too big a problem.



1. Bane has quite plainly displayed more impressive use of the force than Kun, so logic dictates he'd be able to defend against anything Kun throws at him.

2. Bane's offensive capabilities are shown to be much more destructive than the amulet blasts themselves, so if Bane just applied the same destructive use of the force into defencive use of the force, it's likely he'd be able to easily defend against the blasts.



Where did I imply ease? I just think Bane firmly has this, I never said it would be easy... And for the record, I've toned down bigtime on the Bane loving, the only reason this is my username is because I requested it like 2 months ago.



That's what sith do? They work together? Really, it's idiotic to take factors like that into account, just say who you think is the most powerful will win, that's what the threads about.

All righty, then.

Originally posted by Master Bane
And only the magnitude of the blasts multiplies with Kun's rage (IIRC), not the sheer destructive power

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4720/kunamulet23rboh8.th.png

"With each pulse of anger, the amulet doubles the power of its discharge!", the magnitude seems to grow as well, but that could merely be due to the angles of which the blasts were portrayed. In any case, they do multiply in terms of their strength.

Oh ok, my bad, that's why I added the 'IIRC' in brackets, as my memory on the topic wasn't completely up to scratch. Doesn't matter though, there are still a number of ways Bane can defend against it, even if it can break through his armour.

i think kun and nadd will take this, And add bane too

there can only be one. And as far as the Sith teaming up, yes that's exactly what they do, hence the rule of two. If there were any more, they two apprentices would team up to kill the Master. And if they view Bane as a big threat, why would they not take out they're competition then go all out on each other? And this wont be a 1 on 1 between Kun and Bane, bane could be distracted with the others and Kun could unleash blasts taking out Bane and whoever is close to him.

Originally posted by Kadesh
i think kun and nadd will take this, And add bane too


Who would those three fight to take it?

Krayt, Kun, or Maul??

I say Kun on this one.

Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

No, he actually doesn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by LORDSIDIOUS01
Can Kun take Maul, strickly hand to hand?

The only think Kun would be taking, son, is a beating.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
The only think he'd be taking, son, is a beating.


By who?

Edit.

either Exar or Dooku.

Can Dooku beat NJO Luke? Can Dooku beat Revan?

Of course Dooku cant beat NJO Luke, nobody said that, what are you talking about, he is not even in this fight and Revan would probably win(although we don't know, true extent of his power), but after a hard fight.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
Of course Dooku cant beat NJO Luke, nobody said that, what are you talking about, he is not even in this fight and Revan would probably win(although we don't know, true extent of his power), but after a hard fight.



I am just asking a question. No Dooku cannot beat one that so more powerful then him.

I said that, i said that Dooku cant defeat NJO Luke, but tell me, who can?

Can Dooku beat TPM Obiwan?

Originally posted by vader11
Can Dooku beat TPM Obiwan?

I think so.

You think so, well, at least you said Dooku wins, its an improvement.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
You think so, well, at least you said Dooku wins, its an improvement. Maybe he think that Dooku would win after a very very long & hard fight

Yea, probably because he will get lucky and surprise TPM Kenobi.

Given our current information, Revan is an extremely powerful Jedi, but is - due to the precedent established by the RotS novelization (that Yoda is the most powerful Jedi up until Luke) - he is automatically lesser than Yoda himself. Certainly not by miles, given we have accounts of his power levels. I'd put him a little less than Yoda, which makes him a few steps above Dooku. A few good ones. He'd tool Dooku in the Force, and possibly defeat him in a lightsaber duel. In an all out fight, given that Revan is an extremely capable tactition and he is not bound by the same scruples and emotional restraints as Yoda, I think he'd defeat Dooku comfortably.

But, we don't know the true extent of his power and i wouldn't say he would defeat Dooku easily.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
But, we don't know the true extent of his power and i wouldn't say he would defeat Dooku easily.

Of course you would.

Originally posted by Gideon
Of course you would.

It would be "wouldn't," and, I don't think Revan will be dominating or beating Dooku "comfortably" either.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
It would be "wouldn't," and, I don't think Revan will be dominating or beating Dooku "comfortably" either.


Why can't Revan beat up Dooku? I thought he was a powerful Sith?

Yes, Dooku is. That's why Revan wouldn't beat him easily.

He said that Revan would win, just not easy.

Originally posted by Count Makashi
He said that Revan would win, just not easy. Ya, he mean Revan would win. He never say Dooku is powerful.