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can Kun overcome this strange duo ?
he's obviously stronger than either one of them individually but with Obi holding up the saber front and Kreia taking it to Exar with the Force can they scrape off the win ?

Even if Exar Kun were to be struck down I would assume that he would continue to fight as a Spirit.

He is difficult to kill.

his spirit can only fight if he can find someone to poses.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
his spirit can only fight if he can find someone to poses.

Hmm. Shame that.

In this case he will at least have a plan B (Kill one to use as a back up).

Edit: Actually, plan B would not work either.

These ghosts and Spirits are a tricky business.

Well, Exar Kun would be better than either of his opponents in saber mastery, but Traya is clearly stronger in the Force. I guess it's a race to see who blasts who into oblivion while Obi-Wan is an afterthought.

i wouldn't say Traya is stronger than Exar in the Force
she may, and I repeat may, know more but in terms of power i'd say he's stronger by a bit a small bit though

She killed three Jedi masters with a wave of her hand. Granted, Exar Kun was able to overcome Odan-Urr using the Force, and tool Vodo using a saber, but three master jedi in the blink of an eye? I'm sorry, but that's one of the highest street-level showings in SW. To argue otherwise is lunacy.

I've often argued that she gained this ability by achieving a force bond with the Exile. It's interesting that if she had this ability for a while, why she didn't unleash it on Nihilus or Sion(Sion specifically)..

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Well, Exar Kun would be better than either of his opponents in saber mastery, but Traya is clearly stronger in the Force. I guess it's a race to see who blasts who into oblivion while Obi-Wan is an afterthought.

Obi-Wan? An afterthought? I highly doubt it, unless Exar Kun uses the Force/amulet blasts at him. Obi-Wan's lightsaber defense is among the best (if not the best) we've ever seen from a duelist, and while he has no chance of overpowering Kun with a lightsaber or with the Force, he certainly won't be steamrolled aside. Afterall, Obi-Wan managed to contend with General Grievous's onslaught of four lightsabers, with each moving at twenty strikes per second. I don't see Kun doing better than that in terms of sheer power and onslaught.

When Force attacks from Exar are taken into account? Yeah, Obi-Wan's just decoration.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I've often argued that she gained this ability by achieving a force bond with the Exile. It's interesting that if she had this ability for a while, why she didn't unleash it on Nihilus or Sion(Sion specifically)..

Good question. With Nihilus, I would assume it would be wasted effort, because Nihilus himself is somehow a wound in the Force or a tear; as for Sion, she did something to cow him when she came back to Malachor V.

Originally posted by Faunus
When Force attacks from Exar are taken into account? Yeah, Obi-Wan's just decoration.
I agree. Look how fast Dooku took out Kenobi with the Force. Kun could likely take him out faster. Then it's him vs. Traya which I think Kun would take.

Originally posted by Faunus
When Force attacks from Exar are taken into account? Yeah, Obi-Wan's just decoration.

Originally posted by Gideon
Obi-Wan? An afterthought? I highly doubt it, unless Exar Kun uses the Force/amulet blasts at him.Considering Janus had just noted that this would be the case in a Force duel...

Not to be obnoxious or anything.

Just a question but um, wouldn't it be "KMC: Why Think Differently"? I mean if you're going to bash a forum where its users are outdebating you, I would think you'd use proper English, but that's just my opinion.

Originally posted by Faunus
Considering Janus had just noted that this would be the case in a Force duel...

Not to be obnoxious or anything.

Excuse me?

First, the creator of the thread has directed that this duel has no restrictions or limitations.



Second, Janus did not "note that this would be the case in a Force fight", since he clearly indicated that Traya is "stronger in the Force". It wouldn't exactly be much of a race if someone is a clear superior, Faunus. Besides, I don't see where he said "this is only in a Force-only duel".

Not to be obnoxious or anything.

He's also "clearly" stating that it will come down to "who blasts who" first, then implying that in such a situation Obi-Wan would be an afterthought. I don't understand why you're actually debating this with me, since I thought I made it obvious that that wasn't at all my intent.

Originally posted by Faunus
He's also "clearly" stating that it will come down to "who blasts who" first, then implying that in such a situation Obi-Wan would be an afterthought. I don't understand why you're actually debating this with me, since I thought I made it obvious that that wasn't at all my intent.

An implication? There you go. No direct statement issued by Janus that this was in regards to an actual Force fight (which is what I clarified on).

If you don't want to debate it, Faunus, then you can let it go. It's not as if I'm forcing (no pun intended) you to respond.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Just a question but um, wouldn't it be "KMC: Why Think Differently"? I mean if you're going to bash a forum where its users are outdebating you, I would think you'd use proper English, but that's just my opinion.

Mostly the decision was for space, as I didn't want anything too overlapping. Either way the phrase is still correct and you still grasp the meaning, which is the whole point.

If by out-debating you mean "shouted down by the vocal majority who refuse to give an inch" then by all means, use that definition. But don't imply that I've lost a given debate unless you're prepared to demonstrate how, when, and where. Feel free to use adverbs since you're such a stickler for detail.

Refuse to give an inch? Janus, do you know what egocentrism is? I can't seem to find anyone more egocentric than you. You refuse to accept canon sources because you either don't agree or it doesn't fit your argument, instead trying to diminish a character you strongly dislike with some ridiculous argument. And yes I'm a stickler for detail because if you're going to go through the trouble of talking shit and making a banner (apparently at your age you have nothing better to do), then I suggest you be as precise as possible, otherwise "sticklers" like me will point out every detail..

So by refusing to take the word of people who are clearly showing bias, I am somehow "egocentric"?

That's just plain stupid. If the sources were satisfactory and complete, and I could review them, I'd comply. No direct sources have been forthcoming. I asked for specific wording and page numbers and everything. I've provided as much in previous arguments. No one has been able to offer them. I didn't make the claim, therefore the onus is not on me to prove up. If you're making the claim, DS, prove up. Or you can ask Escape or LS to provide the specifics. I'm not unreasonable. I simply don't see any proof other then "NEC says he's the best!". That doesn't compel me. I want more than that. The unexamined life is not worth living. I don't take all sentences literally and unexamined; neither should you.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
So by refusing to take the word of people who are clearly showing bias, I am somehow "egocentric"?
No, by refusing to look at sources, by using personal attacks in the form of banners, and by attacking anyone that doesn't see your point of view, you are being egocentric. I could take it a step further and say this is exactly how EOD operates. The majority has a set opinion on something and flames the minority. Actually I take that back, because Escape and LS have been kind of enough not to insult you in any way, shape, or form, instead proving their case with a well thought out argument supported by FACTS...


You are sitting an nitpicking about how character X would be able to do this and that to Sidious, when Escape offers a counterargument, you berate him and tell him he hasn't proven anything. I've found that you are a superb debater on a subject you have no real care about...
Furthermore, you think the NEC is the only one that states Sidious is the best? Let me get you a link to all of Escape's quotes. And you have ALWAYS dodged the Sidious debate when we provide you the quote of the Ancient Sith declaring that Sidious is the greatest and most powerful of them all.

By refusing to look at the sources? Have I not already made it clear that I am not the one making the claims, therefore I do not have to run off and search high and low among SW EU for the quote to analyze it. Those making the claim should provide it, or at least the specifics of finding it so I can evaluate it and put it into context. I am not moved by the version of context applied by members here (IMO type sentences). There's something disturbing about how much leeway Sidious is given simply because of these lines from reference materials.

Secondly, most people with a sense of humor might find my signature to be funny and witty, not a blatant attempt to flame or bash people. It coincides with my own views that this subforum is way, way too Sidious-happy, but I didn't list any names. If you take it as personal bashing, that's your issue.

Thirdly, I'd appreciate it if you didn't bash the entirety of EoD simply because some of the members have disagreed with you and you've been warned and banned previously for trolling and bashing yourself, along with making obtuse observations and refusing to back them up. So yeah, have some respect for the people on the forum who are not an extension of the debating here. If that's all you see than you are blind.

It also coincides with your disdain for Sidious, Sidious supporters, or arguments involving Sidious in them because, as you claim, there's a lot of "leeway" involved, so whatever the purpose of the banner was, I find it most "convenient"..


What I just did is exactly what YOU have been doing all along Janus, so you proved my point. The members at EOD seem more like a clique at times (although not so much anymore), and would bash ANYBODY who disagreed with them. On here, the premier debaters such as LS and Escape go out of their way to be polite to people, no matter what. You and some of the guys at EOD are very smart but you often let subjectivity get in the way. At the end of the day who really gives a shit Janus? It's just Star Wars.


http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=477847&pagenumber=2

This is inaccurate.



Actually, I have nothing personally against people who support Sidious. LS in particular is very cool to talk to outside of debate.



If I went into a thread and said "Darth Revan will beat Dooku without breaking a sweat" and then proceeded to boost his greatness using vague quotes, would you be swayed? Or would you be less than convinced?



You sound awfully bitter at EoD. Are you sure it's the forum's purpose and set up you're unhappy with, or is it that certain people have disagreed with you and corrected you in the past, or that you've been checked for being a blatant troll? If you hate the place so much and it's a "clique" why do you still keep posting there? Why'd you sock there? If it was just some shithole clique hang out forum, I'd think you would leave and not talk about it anything more than passing.

As far as politeness here, the current elite aren't very different from previous regulars. All regulars indulge in bashing, sharp remarks, or worse. There's no real civility here except when people choose to check themselves or are general nice guys (Like Darth Dipsit, wherever he went...). If politeness indeed ruled the day, and it was something you greatly admired and aspired to, you wouldn't be sitting around ripping on me with Escape in every thread you can get your hands on.

So really, you're just a "Me too" type troll who's unhappy with whatever my friends and I have done to you.

Funny how everything is Vague and ambiguous when you don't agree.




Disgraced me and corrected me in the past? You mean with flawed arguments that currently hold no water? I'm not bitter towards EOD at all, I'm just reacting to EOD the way you react to KMC when somebody doesn't agree with you, yet your egocentrism allows you to believe that you are "justified" in your displeasure while I am just angry at people. Furthermore, I said it USED to be a clique up there. Now I post because people have lightened up again. At the very end of the day, it's just a forum, nothing more.


Again with the defensive attitude? Where am I ripping on you? Notice how in most of my judgement I have said that you are very intelligent, a good debater, with all do respect, etc. Where is this "ripping" you speak of?


This assertion warrants proof, and seeing as how you're too thick headed to look at reality, I'm going to assume that you're just a bitter man looking to talk shit. Call me a troll or whatever, but I have been more than civil with you and your less than acceptable debates.. Nor do I care about what you and your internet friends/pseudointellectuals do or say because it's the internet. Apparently you care though.

Btw I have never called myself a debater seeing as how I've never done it, nor taken a class for it. This is all a learning experience and you have really taught me (as Escape has said), that being an intelligent person doesn't equate to being a skilled debater..

Funny how I only don't agree with things that are vague and ambiguous, even if they favor characters I like. I don't run around saying Darth Revan has battle precog so amazing he can predict wars, do I? Obviously, if I don't accept it, there's a pretty good reason.



Yes, disgraced and corrected. You're the only person on the forum in its three year history who's earned more than one warning. You can piss and moan about that (You know, months and months ago) all you'd like same as I am. My chief complaint is with your idea that "EoD is all like that- clique like" etc etc. It's not. There's still diversity in opinions and ideas. You should know that very well, seeing as you and I were in the same opinion on a thread against Illustrious, IKC and Nai. It doesn't get any more brother-in-a-foxhole than that.



Right.



No, you've been contrary to me in every thread these past few weeks and quick to bash or get a jab in when it suits you. When you debate, it's all "IMO" type shit, and everyone else around you has to pony up and offer real reason and resources. I may not agree with Escape or LS on a great many things, but I recognize that they are capable of logical arguments and they know the source material quite well. Both of them make up their own minds on source material.

You don't do any of that. You ride on other people's coattails when it comes to "sides", you can't structure or defend an argument to save your soul, and then you resort to this kind of crap when people finally call you out.

In short, you're a troll.



Not many people have. It doesn't take serious classical Logic and Reasoning classes back to back to make sense of some things. I doubt very much that most of the high-end debaters on KMC or elsewhere have had such classes. They simply use their brains and don't just accept what's handed to them or told to them wholesale. I'm glad you like to play "I'm just learning all this" Amateur when you're backed into a corner for lacking in substance, though you'll play cowboy in any thread when someone clearly less aggressive or inferior gets in your way.

And I'm glad you take Escape's words for gospel, seeing as you're riding off of his arguments left and right. I hope he keeps you afloat seeing as you can't fend for yourself.

So yeah, good luck, troll.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Funny how I only don't agree with things that are vague and ambiguous, even if they favor characters I like. I don't run around saying Darth Revan has battle precog so amazing he can predict wars, do I? Obviously, if I don't accept it, there's a pretty good reason.
Funny how out of all the quotes you are still not convinced that Sidious is #1, yet you are convinced Ragnos and Nadd pwned? Interesting..




Disgraced by whom? You call it disgraced, I call it a learning experience. I know the internet and these forums is your life Janus but it's not mine so if I lose, I learn and move on. You apparently have no concept of doing that seeing as how you're set in your own ways.. I'm not pissing and moaning actually, I'm letting you do all of that. I never said I hated EOD but I regarded EOD in the same manner that you regard KMC. In fact, EOD is a much better forum because the Star Wars vs. debates are kept to a minimum, and there is a large assortment of ideas and debates going on there.





Show me a "bash" or a "jab". If anything I've been respectful to you while you've been bitching. It's never "IMO" type in my debates. Funny how when I give you a source or disagree with you, your only defense is "well um You didnt come up with that argument you copied someone so you suck!!" or something to that extent. You have yet to provide ANY real proof for your current arguments so if what you say about me is true, then we are in the same boat.


Translation: I don't agree with you and I'm heated over irrelevant text to the point where I'm going to talk shit and make a fool out of myself. Great going Janus. You're giving a great name for pseudointellectuals everywhere.




You hardly use your brain in regards to the SW universe Janus. You just ignore facts when you don't agree with them, and accept facts when it's convenient for you (ancient sith). I don't think you even begin to understand the term "playing cowboy", and how it involves me in these threads, but it's scary for someone as intelligent as you to have such shitty self awareness.


I rest my case. When in a losing situation, *****. Nobody claimed I created these arguments seeing as I have less sources and patience than escape, but I've debated you on many occasions, including this one, only to see you ***** and moan like a little girl, before letting you take it easy for a few months.


Thanks Janus. It's comforting to know that my tax dollars go to brilliant men such as yourself. I would give you the typical "boohoo" statelement, but it would be all too predictable.. Quit crying..

Sure thing, troll.

Is all this really necessary?

I think that you both should either just give this up or take it to PM's... as this is going nowhere. Things can only escalate.

No worries, Blax. I'm done.

Bitter old man in denial. Truly a sad sight..

David, you say you're an Ancient Sith fanboy, yet the fact that your first instinct in the "Is Palpatine the most powerful Sith Lord in Galactic history" thread was to immediately undermine a showing of power done by one of them after it had been pointed out to the forum, would suggest otherwise. You're clearly lying out of your ass to make it seem like you actually do debate objectively.

Its not an instinct Noobaris. It's fact because I finally obtained all of the sources necessary. BEFORE I had any sources and was ignorant, I was an ancient sith fanboy. Hell, I still am, but it shows that I am objective if I accept facts. Thanks for your input though, enjoy the 37th ban.

For someone who claims that the forums aren't his life, you sure are conveniently at the computer, ready to hammer away at the keyboard, every time you get addressed on here. Interesting.

I enjoy these forums sure, not to mention it's only 8:30 AM and I sleep very little. I would only claim these forums are my life when I've been banned 36 times and I still keep coming back.. Oh wait..

Neb got banned again. Why can't he irritate the morons at lucasforums instead? He could accomplish much more there...

Originally posted by Ivalice
Neb got banned again. Why can't he irritate the morons at lucasforums instead? He could accomplish much more there...


Damn Rex you worked FAST today. All it took was 1 report..

'Claps heartily'



'Claps and Wolf-whistles'


Well, if it makes you feel any better, I laughed. And I agree with the Sidious-happy point. This forum does seem to worship him.



When I first got here you and Ivalice posted continously about how I 'gang-rape' my own 'mutilated' mother and about how 'deformed' my penis is. The only reason that I didn't report you was that it made me laugh so damn much.



How about the fact that as long as I've been here, you've never set up your own thread and that you always wait for the others to post opinions before you post your 'own'.

Quit spamming you wanker.

Owww, you really hurt my feelings!!

The last oh.. 12 posts maybe, fail utterly, no offense.

So have Rex ban this Noobaris sock, and close the thread. It's getting pointless when neither side backs off and commences with the insults.

Isn't Neb banned already? Or is he Exodus to?

All evidence to him being Exodus too, although a little more discreet. Same arguments, some attempts to separate himself from looking too much like Noobaris, but it's generally all there..

You'yr border-line insane.

For the 50th Time: I AM NOT NOOBERIS!!!

Owww...I missed some nice flames here.

Sexy...you are, as always, wrong. Lightsnake and Escape can come in handing in quotes from sourcebooks back and forth, about Sidious being the most powerful Sith Lord ever.

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=1200

Now read what "Tasty Taste" aka Leland Chee has written about statements like that:
"There's always going to be room for interpretation and debate. Is the power being measured referring to his mastery over the dark side of the Force, the governmental powers he wields as Emperor, or some combination of both?" (answering the question if Sidious is the "most powerful" Sith Lord if that statement is mentioned in a sourcebook.

Ups. Aside of that:
"Us continuity people don't deal in absolutes. Only Sith deal in absolutes."

So. Even Sidious status as "most powerful Sith Lord" is still up for debate. I'm afraid.

And by the way, David. The next time you decide to insult the EoD staff, I'll kick your ass so hard that you can bite my toenails off. Understood, TDTD? Or do you prefer it to be called "Mr. Bxxxxx"?

By the way: One must love the irony. The former main KMC forum troll tries to flame other people for trolling. Lmao.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Owww...I missed some nice flames here.

Sexy...you are, as always, wrong. Lightsnake and Escape can come in handing in quotes from sourcebooks back and forth, about Sidious being the most powerful Sith Lord ever.

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=1200

Now read what "Tasty Taste" aka Leland Chee has written about statements like that:
"There's always going to be room for interpretation and debate. Is the power being measured referring to his mastery over the dark side of the Force, the governmental powers he wields as Emperor, or some combination of both?" (answering the question if Sidious is the "most powerful" Sith Lord if that statement is mentioned in a sourcebook.

Ups. Aside of that:
"Us continuity people don't deal in absolutes. Only Sith deal in absolutes."

So. Even Sidious status as "most powerful Sith Lord" is still up for debate. I'm afraid.

And by the way, David. The next time you decide to insult the EoD staff, I'll kick your ass so hard that you can bite my toenails off. Understood, TDTD? Or do you prefer it to be called "Mr. Bxxxxx"?

By the way: One must love the irony. The former main KMC forum troll tries to flame other people for trolling. Lmao. Why do you and nebaris call him TDTD? What makes you think DS is a sock if i may ask?

I see we have a convert. Congratulations, Nai, and welcome to a much more enlightened life.



Does this apply to everyone? Because, I admit, the thought of getting my "ass kicked" by any of the EoD staff seems too farfetched for me to take seriously.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Owww...I missed some nice flames here.

Sexy...you are, as always, wrong. Lightsnake and Escape can come in handing in quotes from sourcebooks back and forth, about Sidious being the most powerful Sith Lord ever.

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&start=1200

Now read what "Tasty Taste" aka Leland Chee has written about statements like that:
"There's always going to be room for interpretation and debate. Is the power being measured referring to his mastery over the dark side of the Force, the governmental powers he wields as Emperor, or some combination of both?" (answering the question if Sidious is the "most powerful" Sith Lord if that statement is mentioned in a sourcebook.

Ups. Aside of that:
"Us continuity people don't deal in absolutes. Only Sith deal in absolutes."

So. Even Sidious status as "most powerful Sith Lord" is still up for debate. I'm afraid.

And by the way, David. The next time you decide to insult the EoD staff, I'll kick your ass so hard that you can bite my toenails off. Understood, TDTD? Or do you prefer it to be called "Mr. Bxxxxx"?

By the way: One must love the irony. The former main KMC forum troll tries to flame other people for trolling. Lmao.

No..

No.. Btw, if I WAS a former troll, then your comment makes you look ridiculous. "OMG you're a loser for something you did insert past date here!!$!!"

I guess in that case, you're a loser because you were made fun of in elementary school Nai? It WOULD be ironic if you didn't call me a FORMER kmc troll, or if anythng you said had any substance to it.

An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and usually irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, with the intention of baiting other users into an emotional response or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion.

Except I don't bait nor disrupt conversations. I simply point out the obvious and defend people (including you), when it is needed. The fact that you don't agree with me and claim everything is ambiguous, as no bearing on me allegedly being a troll.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No.. Btw, if I WAS a former troll, then your comment makes you look ridiculous. "OMG you're a loser for something you did insert past date here!!$!!"

I guess in that case, you're a loser because you were made fun of in elementary school Nai? It WOULD be ironic if you didn't call me a FORMER kmc troll, or if anythng you said had any substance to it.

Oh DS. Geee...

If you want keep your identity a secret, you maybe shouldn't have taken the AIM you entered in your TDTD profile here as username for the starwars.com forums. Not so smart.

Of course you can now try to worm out of the situation by stating that it's just a coincidence that you and TDTD not only share the same name but were also born on the same date in the same year. That aside of both not being creative enough to come up with a nice nickname. And of course you can, after this, try to explain to the listening audience why you registered here at exactly the same date TDTD was banned. I'd say the list of coincidence is a little bit too long, eh?

Just because Rex isn't aware of the fact that there are things like dynamic IP adresses out there, doesn't mean this applies to me too.

And DS. I'm not saying "OMG you're a loser for something you did enter past date here". Things do change and so do people. No. I did just notice that you went back to your former trolling routine in the last weeks, littering the board with reallife-flame-attempts and pretty much nothing else. In all honesty I don't care if you do that with Nebaris. I'm not a moderator here. But being bold enough to insult an entire forum community here (the moderators and most user of the EoD - including myself), because just feel the urge to insult Janus? Don't you think that was going a little bit too far?

And wow DS. You're also back to the "I'm not a troll despite I'm trolling - you just don't understand what a troll is" speeches that you err... TDTD used to give when being called a troll. Pathetic.

Ah lovely. A year later the accusations continue. Funny how I'm a troll because I disagree with you, or raher you are calling me a former troll. Make up your mind Nai which one is it?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Ah lovely. A year later the accusations continue. Funny how I'm a troll because I disagree with you, or raher you are calling me a former troll. Make up your mind Nai which one is it?

What I find lovely is the fact that you have ceased to deny that you are in fact TDTD. Thanks. Your attempt to lure the general attention away from that fact has failed.

No, I just don't care to argue with detective dipshit, seeing as how after a year you're still on the prowl. Make efficient use of your "detecting" abilities.

And if I made any attempt any attempt to lure away the general attention, you'd be impying anybody really gives a shit about your accusations. If they did and the accusations were even remotely accurate, I would have been banned a long time ago. Thanks for playing champ.

Funny how I'm Nebaris becuase I disagree with you

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Funny how I'm Nebaris becuase I disagree with you You disagree with everybody.

Hell and in all honesty i don't believe you re nebaris, why? Because you are not as intelligent as he is and your self proclaimed de(master)bater.

Nai:




If this is the case, Yoda as the most powerful PT Jedi, Luke as the most powerful of all time, Bane as the most powerful Sith of the Brotherhood and Exar as the most powerful of the Brotherhood of Sith could well fall under scrutiny as well. Just because something may change in the future doesn't mean it isn't clear cut as of now.
While it might be up for debate, this hardly means the debate won't be a clear cut one.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Refuse to give an inch? Janus, do you know what egocentrism is? I can't seem to find anyone more egocentric than you. You refuse to accept canon sources because you either don't agree or it doesn't fit your argument, instead trying to diminish a character you strongly dislike with some ridiculous argument. And yes I'm a stickler for detail because if you're going to go through the trouble of talking shit and making a banner (apparently at your age you have nothing better to do), then I suggest you be as precise as possible, otherwise "sticklers" like me will point out every detail.. i like his banner. i was just about to pm him for permition to use it

and um... i would make it "he doesnt worship sideous and njo luke!...