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For the jedi, this is them as of Attack of the Clones. The setting is the bar in the same movie where they track Zam.

obi and ani take this

You really think so? I'm not so sure myself. I think General Grievous is pretty good, if unorthodox. Obi-Wan as of the third episode could defend against him, but can earlier versions of himself and Anakin do the same? Neither practiced Forms III and V at this point.

General Greivous.

Episode 2 forms hmm, i'm going to go with grievous

Yeah, I'd say Grievous, too. We don't see what Grievous does in AOTC, but it couldn't have been much different to what he was like during the Clone Wars.

Anakin and Obi-Wan

Originally posted by Darth Rogers
You really think so? I'm not so sure myself. I think General Grievous is pretty good, if unorthodox. Obi-Wan as of the third episode could defend against him, but can earlier versions of himself and Anakin do the same? Neither practiced Forms III and V at this point.

Obi-wan switched to form III after episode one, and anakin has always used form V.

But the duo takes this GG is great in the cw but obi-wan and anakin as of the AOTC do work very well togetehr as a team and i think after a long hard match they'd be able to take out the general

Yeah if this is AOTC/EU Grievous he wins. Anakin would rush him and get stomped like Sha'a Gi did. Then it's just Kenobi and Soresu or not he'd go down soon enough.

Originally posted by Darth Rogers
Obi-Wan as of the third episode could defend against him obi was able to "defend against" a weak facade of what GG once was. had GG been at his height, he wouldn't have been owned anywhere near as easily.

unfortunately, grievous was quite feeble during AOTC.

GG's torso was wounded, but how does that affect his robotic arms? His overall ability was damaged but his dueling speed and such would not be affected by his injured chest, since he's robotic.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
GG's torso was wounded, but how does that affect his robotic arms? His overall ability was damaged but his dueling speed and such would not be affected by his injured chest, since he's robotic. just because GG's arms are robotic doesn't mean they work separate from the rest of his body. crushing his chest weakened him as a whole *chronic cough*. i mean, he went from being a jedi killing machine, well adept in lightsaber combat - to being easily humiliated by obi.

and if "obsession" is canon, mace did much more than crush grievous' chest.

And you're not sure that he was easily humiliated by Kenobi because... Kenobi's just that much better then him?

Please. According to facial expressions, the script, and the novel, it was not EASY for Obi-Wan to defeat Grievous- he just did that after a relatively short period of time, and it was thanks to his style's advantages over Grievous, which is why he could defeat Grievous with more ease than an otherwise more capable Jedi, like Anakin, Yoda, or Mace.

That being said, however, I believe Grievous wins here.

Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
And you're not sure that he was easily humiliated by Kenobi because... Kenobi's just that much better then him? don't get me wrong, i believe obi still would've taken that battle even if grievous was at his height. all i'm saying is that had grievous been in tip top shape, it would've been a much better duel - with him at least fairing well imo.

Anakin/Obi-Wan ftw.

If this is EU General Grievous I think he takes this quite easily.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
If this is EU General Grievous I think he takes this quite easily.

Really? How?

I think GG takes it, too.

Actually, check that. The main post states it's AotC versions of the jedi.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Actually, check that. The main post states it's AotC versions of the jedi.

Wurd.

Necromancy.


Grievous takes this.

I think it'd be close. I'd probably give it to the Grevious. Anakin would be a fool and rush in and get wrecked and Obi-wan wouldn't stand much chance yet at this point.

i'd take obi-wan and anakin because they would actually get to "take him together" since grievous can't just blast anakin into a wall.

Ok if this is GG at his height he takes it. With two sabers he took on five Jedi including Shaak Ti, and Ki-Adi-Mundi, who I put above Anakin and Kenobi in AOTC. Shaak is no joke, and Mundi is pretty damn powerful.

Mundi sucks fuzzy graying Yoda scrotum.

Really? He lasted longer agaist Grievous than even Shaak Ti, who is regarded as one of the greater swordsbeings.

That's actually a very good point.

Mundi was also alone, and was facing a GG who was using 5 lightsabers I think.

Grievous was using three sabers two in his hands one in his foot, but still, 2 sabers Grievous dueled five Jedi at once. In the end it was Shaak and Mundi. Shaak got knocked back when she blocke Grievous' blade with her bare hands. Then it was Mundi vs. Grievous for at least a couple of hours. I mean the Clones had to make a team and hyperspace Jump in system

...Mundi and Ti were facing Grievous together...Grievous ended up doing his super-fast-spinning-sabers thing, dazzling Mundi and grabbing him with his feet and tossing him away. Then he took on Ti solo and she held out for a while...

...What are you guys referring to?

She lasted a whole ten seconds. I just counted.

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As you notice, they merged that episode and the beginning of the next episode (when the clones find him), and inth e beginning of the next episode his shirts half ripped off and he's more scratched up than before.

To be that banged up, but not dead or burned (since they're using lightsabers), it's pretty much implied that he lasted for a reasonably long time by himself until the clones came.

Meh. Still looks like he got pwned (twice) faster than she did. Once with 1 lightsaber against him, once with 3.

And, I forgot how stupid looking Grievous' stance was there. Ick.



EDIT: I like your sig.

Well, he lasted longer than she did.

And thank you.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Really? How? Because Anakin and Kenobi as of AOTC aren't that great. They have sorry teamwork. Anakin is arrogant and cocky. And Kenobi still is no where close to mastering Soresu to the point of where he had by ROTS to defeat a weakened Grievous.

Question: Do you think AOTC Kenobi and Skywalker can take Shaak Tii and Ki-Adi Mundi? Grievous did, and that was after he pwned four other capable Jedi.

In AOTC Tyrannus wtf pwned Kenobi and then went ahead to beat Skywalker comfortably.

It's been said Tyrannus was at time's hard-pressed to out duel Grievous. Grievous has this in the bag. Neither at the time of AOTC possess any real threat Force power wise. So the General will kill them in under 5 minutes.

Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
She lasted a whole ten seconds. I just counted.

236TdTsFLs0

As you notice, they merged that episode and the beginning of the next episode (when the clones find him), and inth e beginning of the next episode his shirts half ripped off and he's more scratched up than before.

To be that banged up, but not dead or burned (since they're using lightsabers), it's pretty much implied that he lasted for a reasonably long time by himself until the clones came.

I love how Grievous emits this black hole of suckage that is so powerful that Jedi just seem to blow the moment they get near him.

I think Mundi might have lasted anywhere from 30 sec-90 sec.

This can NOT be cannon. Five of the Jedi High Council couldn't stand against Greivous using only two lightsabers? WTF? When the General landed on the Jedi I laughed, but then it was just way distorted. Don't they know what they're doing to us?

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
This can NOT be cannon. Five of the Jedi High Council couldn't stand against Greivous using only two lightsabers? WTF? When the General landed on the Jedi I laughed, but then it was just way distorted. Don't they know what they're doing to us? I only counted three Council members there.

Aayla Secura was a master wasn't she?


I realize that she wasn't on the Council, but still... This really skews the power scale.

And you're right about the 3 members. Hey, if onle Ki and Shaak survived, which member died?

Wait, scratch that. Secura wasn't a Council member. Grievous defeated two on Hypori. But as we all know, council membership doesn't mean powerful combatent.

*Points at Coleman Trebor. BTW Secura wasn't even a Master she was a knight

She did duel Aurra Sing, though, and did quite well.

...Okay.

Aurra ain't that great.

Grievous blindsided five terrified and exhausted Jedi who'd just been completely and unexpectedly routed. He didn't take them in a straight fight like he did Obi-Wan, he fought smart. That's how Dooku told him he needed to work if he were to stand any chance against the upper-tier of the Order, even going so far as to tell him to retreat if any one of those elements (fear, intimidation, surprise) were absent.