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this is a fair match. its in the dune sea, each person starts off with a lightsber and the exact same robe. LS Revan at his peak vs Bane sans orbalisks.

I would love to see revan win, but im not sure. Thus the thread..

Dunno. Not enough known about Revan to make a clear statement, but I think that Bane- having learned from Revan's holocrons, and becoming a beast in both saber combat and the force- can take Revan down.

Why? why did you make another thread for Nebaris? You are the one saying to ignore him and stuff yet you have just made a thread to him.

Warning : Please do not feed the troll.

sorry. NO NOOBARIS!!!

I think that revan would take this, being the collector of all of the knowledge of his era, but I like revan way more then bane

Does Tatooine have a moon? 'Cause if so, Revan's screwed: How can he possibly kill Bane like he would normally if he's distracted at Bane's uberpwnage moon-sucking abilities? He's boned man, fecking boned. Revan's as good as irritated.

Except bane's moon moving nonsense was retconned

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Except bane's moon moving nonsense was retconned He was being sarcastic DS. He was not serious.

Banes a demonstrated beast and Revan is not. Theres not enough evidence for revan to put up a good arument for her.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
Banes a demonstrated beast and Revan is not. Theres not enough evidence for revan to put up a good arument for her. Get your damn facts strait. Revans a he not a she. Hell you keep asking people "where was this stated blah blah blah" and you yourself aren't taking canon into context every time you type shit. Stop being hypocritical.

So where was revan stated to be a female?

Revan may be a female in "your vision" of star wars. But when it comes to debates at least stick to the facts aka canon.

Originally posted by Schwarzenegger
Get your damn facts strait. Revans a he not a she. Hell you keep asking people "where was this stated blah blah blah" and you yourself aren't taking canon into context every time you type shit. Stop being hypocritical.

So where was revan stated to be a female?

Oh, lots of places. The most prominent example is inside Exodus' head.

By the way, I think Bane will be able to quite handily defeat Revan. She's very strong, much stronger than Revan ever was; Bane spent all of her life learning from Revan's Sith Holocrons, and had become one of the strongest Sith in history. Her power was almost unmatched.

By Exodus' logic, it's okay to refer to Bane as a female because we're not talking about his love life.

In sabers bane rocks revan

in the force i could see revan winning by a slim margin but in all out bane wins fairly easily.

Power: Bane was labelled far more powerful than the entire BoD (most likely Force power, and not developed), and possesses the Force power enhancing orbalisk armour. He has displayed the ability to absorb, contain, and redirect a planetary level of power, and has spent ten years growing in power since.

Mastery: Bane was capable of using the Force with a planet sized scale, and focusing it on the subatomic level. He's spent ten years growing in ability following the first display, and five following the second*.

Knowledge in the Force: He possesses all of Revan's knowledge and understanding of the darkside (PoD, Page 229), all of Sadow's knowledge and teachings (Ro2, Page 103) and has spent ten years learning all of it*.

*Bane's learning rate is displayed to be pretty much unparalleled, as evident by his ability to master Force lightning in an hour, and memorise the millions of moves and combinations of the Saber Staff in just a year, further supporting how much he would have progressed during those many years.

Yeah... Revan stands no chance in the Force, and gets owned even harder in the saber battle.

Bane in a curbstomp.

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
Power: Bane was labelled far more powerful than the entire BoD (most likely Force power, and not developed), and possesses the Force power enhancing orbalisk armour. He has displayed the ability to absorb, contain, and redirect a planetary level of power, and has spent ten years growing in power since.

Mastery: Bane was capable of using the Force with a planet sized scale, and focusing it on the subatomic level. He's spent ten years growing in ability following the first display, and five following the second*.

Knowledge in the Force: He possesses all of Revan's knowledge and understanding of the darkside (PoD, Page 229), all of Sadow's knowledge and teachings (Ro2, Page 103) and has spent ten years learning all of it*.

*Bane's learning rate is displayed to be pretty much unparalleled, as evident by his ability to master Force lightning in an hour, and memorise the millions of moves and combinations of the Saber Staff in just a year, further supporting how much he would have progressed during those many years.

Yeah... Revan stands no chance in the Force, and gets owned even harder in the saber battle.

Bane in a curbstomp.

No

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
Power: Bane was labelled far more powerful than the entire BoD (most likely Force power, and not developed), and possesses the Force power enhancing orbalisk armour. He has displayed the ability to absorb, contain, and redirect a planetary level of power, and has spent ten years growing in power since.

Mastery: Bane was capable of using the Force with a planet sized scale, and focusing it on the subatomic level. He's spent ten years growing in ability following the first display, and five following the second*.

Knowledge in the Force: He possesses all of Revan's knowledge and understanding of the darkside (PoD, Page 229), all of Sadow's knowledge and teachings (Ro2, Page 103) and has spent ten years learning all of it*.

*Bane's learning rate is displayed to be pretty much unparalleled, as evident by his ability to master Force lightning in an hour, and memorise the millions of moves and combinations of the Saber Staff in just a year, further supporting how much he would have progressed during those many years.

Yeah... Revan stands no chance in the Force, and gets owned even harder in the saber battle.

Bane in a curbstomp. Just to point out, there's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path.

I know HOW to build a supercomputer, but that doesn't mean I CAN.

(most likely Force raw power, and not developed)

And Tangible, I was simply laying down all of the relevant factors, and explaining why Bane's the man in all three. he had a larger knowledge base than Revan to work with, more time, and a greater displayed learning ability. His power, and mastery is also displayed to be miles greater as well, so Revan has no chance whatsoever in a Force battle.

...and, if all else fails, he could always just pull a moon out of orbit and crush him with it. Either way you look at it, Revan gets owned, hard.

yet bane was still AFRAID of what revan knew......

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
(most likely Force raw power, and not developed)

And Tangible, I was simply laying down all of the relevant factors, and explaining why Bane's the man in all three. he had a larger knowledge base than Revan to work with, more time, and a greater displayed learning ability. His power, and mastery is also displayed to be miles greater as well, so Revan has no chance whatsoever in a Force battle.

...and, if all else fails, he could always just pull a moon out of orbit and crush him with it. Either way you look at it, Revan gets owned, hard. Hard?

Wouldn't Bane bow down to Revan instead of fighting him? <_<
I mean he worships the guy.

Yeah he's more likely to suck Revans dick then Nebs is to rim Banes ass.

Originally posted by xxXAcStylesXxx
Yeah he's more likely to suck Revans dick then Nebs is to rim Banes ass.

Now, I don't know about all that. And Nebaris seems to be more obsessed with me these days than he is Bane.

I can think of some logical arguements for revan, but this is strictly freindly, no insults, no heated and angry typing.

1. Didn't bane not learn everything on revan's holocron because he got too scared or something like that? explain this please. Im not sure if its true.

2. Would revan have everything he knew on his holocron?

3. Sith are amaizingly well known for their self overestimating, and Bane worships revan. If revan was not something totally to be worshipped, then why would bane worship him? Remember, this is pre-ro2 bane.

1. He learned techniques he'd be scared to use.

2. Yep

He learned everything, but as of PoD had decided that some of teachings were too dangerous for him to even attempt. No other specifics are provided on that particular matter.
Most likely, unless he made multiple holocrons.
For the ideology. That's why Bane turned to the ancient Sith: he realized that the Brotherhood was weakening both itself and the power of the Dark side on a larger scale, and sought a way to revitalize the Order in the best manner possible. He found just that in Revan's teachings, along with techniques and rituals that were absent from the Brotherhood's collection.

also remeber that revans holocron was made prekotor so bane only learned some of what revan at his peak knows.

'At his peak' Revan is a lightsider. As a Sith, he left all his dark side knowledge in the holocron and PoD says as much.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
'At his peak' Revan is a lightsider. As a Sith, he left all his dark side knowledge in the holocron and PoD says as much.

ya thats what i was tryin to say

In duels, bane has superior feats and accomplishments. Kas'im is likely to be better than Malak and anyway the circumstances of that fight are unknown.

In the Force, bane has demonstrated more combat related feats and power levels. the stuff on the holocron was specifically stated to be Sith rituals, not combat techniques.

Bane for all three.

couldnt revan just use the tecniques that bane was too scared to use?

Firstly, Bane was not "scared" of some of the techniques that Revan had knowledge of, he was simply unwilling to use them due to how dangerous they were (which in the case of the Thought Bomb, and possibly others, was outright suicidal).

Secondly, who's to say that Revan would have been any different. People just love to assume that because they were in his holocron, he would have had no problems using them himself, which is bullshit. All that we can say for sure is that Revan had a working knowledge on how to use them (as did Bane afterwards), that's it. The idea that he, unlike Bane, would have been perfectly willing to use such dangerous technique remains completely unsupported. and annoyingly stupid.

Its completely unsupported that he wouldn't be perfectly willing to use such dangerouse technique(let's add an "s" on there, shall we?)s.

Whats annoyingly stupid is you, noobaris.

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
Firstly, Bane was not "scared" of some of the techniques that Revan had knowledge of, he was simply unwilling to use them due to how dangerous they were (which in the case of the Thought Bomb, and possibly others, was outright suicidal).
I'm glad you speak for Bane. Unfortunately for you, the author disagrees.


Except Bane knew only what was in the holocron, unless of course you're going to argue that Revan threw in everything HE knew into the holocron, which is debatable at best. Revan had the combined knowledge of Malachor V and Korriban. His force knowledge exceeds Bane's. Get over it Noobaris.

1. Omniscient Narrator: "And soon all his knowledge--his understanding of the dark side--would belong to Bane." - PoD, Page 229.

So there you have the fact that all of Revan's knowledge (dark side and light side), and understanding of the dark side, would belong to Bane. All of it. Not limited to his holocron, but all of it, period.

Then you have the fact that he would soon obtain Nadd's holocron (which contains all of Sadow's knowledge), and has ten years to learn extensively from both sources, with a far greater displayed learning rate than Revan, and really, it's not debatable; Bane's knowledge of the Force shits on Revan's.

2. You completely missed my point, anyway; what I was saying was that there is no proof, whatsoever, that Revan, unlike Bane, actually would have been willing to use those very techniques himself. All that we can say for sure is that Revan had a working knowledge of these techniques, which Bane shares, and apparently people are assuming that Bane's unwillingness to ever use them is specific to him and wouldn't apply to Revan.

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
1. Omniscient Narrator: "And soon all his knowledge--his understanding of the dark side--would belong to Bane." - PoD, Page 229.

So there you have the fact that all of Revan's knowledge (dark side and light side), and understanding of the dark side, would belong to Bane. All of it. Not limited to his holocron, but all of it, period.
Holy shit you're hilarious. When there's a quote about any OTHER character, you pass it off as ambiguous at best, a misinterpretation at worse. But when there's something about bane, you take everything so literally. Sorry Noobaris, that just doesn't work. Nothing suggests Bane learned more than Revan, much less all of the dark side. I'm afraid your constant bans have put a damper on your pseudologic.


This is yet another retarded opinion that you can't seem to prove. Nothing suggests Bane's knowledge exceeds that of Revan, who had Malachor V and Korriban.

Originally posted by HomoSuperior
1. Omniscient Narrator: "And soon all his knowledge--his understanding of the dark side--would belong to Bane." - PoD, Page 229.

So there you have the fact that all of Revan's knowledge (dark side and light side), and understanding of the dark side, would belong to Bane. All of it. Not limited to his holocron, but all of it, period.

Then you have the fact that he would soon obtain Nadd's holocron (which contains all of Sadow's knowledge), and has ten years to learn extensively from both sources, with a far greater displayed learning rate than Revan, and really, it's not debatable; Bane's knowledge of the Force shits on Revan's.

2. You completely missed my point, anyway; what I was saying was that there is no proof, whatsoever, that Revan, unlike Bane, actually would have been willing to use those very techniques himself. All that we can say for sure is that Revan had a working knowledge of these techniques, which Bane shares, and apparently people are assuming that Bane's unwillingness to ever use them is specific to him and wouldn't apply to Revan.


Revan holocron was made PRE-kotor so how could Bane learn everything revan knew from kotor on? He couldn't plain and simple. Unless your suggesting that Revan for some reason whent back to lehon accessed his sith holocron(even though he is now a JEDI again) and added everything else he knew.

Notice how the quote goes on to specify his "understanding of the darkside" (prekotor revan) The holocron obviously didn't have the knowledge he gained in his journeys in kotor and I highly doubt that there would be much of if any lightside(jedi) knowledge/techniques in a sith holocron.

How cares, its not as if Bane would ever even use lightside techniques any way.

And anyway, the only lightside techniques that Revan could learn in Kotor were anti-driod attck (can't remember name), and Force stasus which Bane has already displayed the ability to Beat ( against Farfalla). Unless Revan suddenly figured out how to use Force sever, then theres not much knowledge that shes gained from KOTOR.

Even if Revan didn't put all her knowledge in the holocron (not provable that she didn't) Bane still has Nadd and Belia's holocrons too use. Occams Razor dictates that Bane probably had a greater knowledge base then Revan.

Please, for the love of god, stop referring to Revan as a female. Jesus....

Originally posted by ThoraxeRMG
Please, for the love of god, stop referring to Revan as a female. Jesus....

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
How cares, its not as if Bane would ever even use lightside techniques any way.

And anyway, the only lightside techniques that Revan could learn in Kotor were anti-driod attck (can't remember name), and Force stasus which Bane has already displayed the ability to Beat ( against Farfalla). Unless Revan suddenly figured out how to use Force sever, then theres not much knowledge that shes gained from KOTOR.

Even if Revan didn't put all her knowledge in the holocron (not provable that she didn't) Bane still has Nadd and Belia's holocrons too use. Occams Razor dictates that Bane probably had a greater knowledge base then Revan.

dude read this because i don't think you understand how the canon works.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Notice how the quote goes on to specify his "understanding of the darkside" (prekotor revan) The holocron obviously didn't have the knowledge he gained in his journeys in kotor and I highly doubt that there would be much of if any lightside(jedi) knowledge/techniques in a sith holocron.

Correct.

Originally posted by Darth Exodus
How cares, its not as if Bane would ever even use lightside techniques any way.

And anyway, the only lightside techniques that Revan could learn in Kotor were anti-driod attck (can't remember name), and Force stasus which Bane has already displayed the ability to Beat ( against Farfalla). Unless Revan suddenly figured out how to use Force sever, then theres not much knowledge that shes gained from KOTOR./B]

You are retarded you have been told numerous times that the powers (in this case lightside) you can learn are for gameplay.

Thats why he needs to read about how canon works.

As long as you keep reacting in this way, NO.

It's too much fun.

And I know how canon works, I was just trying too explain that theirs not much difference between post-kotor Revans knowledge and pre-Kotor Revans.

I will apologise for pissing you off though.

Your signature is clever.

Thanks, yours is cool. Where'd you get it?