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Their fight takes place on Korriban.

Sabers=Kun. By a very long mile. I know that one at least.

But I'm ignorant of Jerec otherwise. For the Force, I'd still give it to Kun for his amulets though. And for the life of me, I can't see Jerec losing to him, even without the amulets.

Originally posted by Tangible God
Sabers=Kun. By a very long mile. I know that one at least.

But I'm ignorant of Jerec otherwise. For the Force, I'd still give it to Kun for his amulets though. And for the life of me, I can't see Exar losing to him, even without the amulets. Fixed.

Exar Kun is legendary even by the PT era, and the powers he's shown, and the sabers skill. Kun takes it while getting a BJ.

Well Jerec was powerful enough to be a sith lord, but Vader already held the title at the time. He studied from the dark side compendiun. He was able to launch powerful force blasts, kinda like Kun's ambulets, but i don't know if they were as strong. Jerec was also able to use sith lightning. He was also able to use the dark side to cut someone off the force.

Kun has resisted being severed from the force before...by a thousand year old Jedi Master no less.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Well Jerec was powerful enough to be a sith lord, but Vader already held the title at the time. He studied from the dark side compendiun. He was able to launch powerful force blasts, kinda like Kun's ambulets, but i don't know if they were as strong. Jerec was also able to use sith lightning. He was also able to use the dark side to cut someone off the force. Just to say it, but being able to use Lightning isn't a great gauge of one's power.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Kun has resisted being severed from the force before...by a thousand year old Jedi Master no less.

I was just naming off the powers he has, that i know of.

I gotcha.

Well in any case, I give Kun the win in each category. Although Force-wise, not by much.

Jerec is particularly badass. Physically, he's capable of lifting a guy by the shirt with one hand (even though his boots had "mini-tractor beams" in it that cemented him the floor). He's easily on par with Kun in terms of strength. Moreover, it should be known that Jerec is also capable of severing the Force from people with a ball of light, if I'm not mistaken.

how powerful was jerec and what was his lightsaber style

Jerec was not top tier until he gets his Valley of the Jedi powerup. If the fight doesn't take place there, Kun - who is absolutely a solid top tier, wins. And by a decent margin.

Originally posted by Gideon
Jerec is particularly badass. Physically, he's capable of lifting a guy by the shirt with one hand (even though his boots had "mini-tractor beams" in it that cemented him the floor). He's easily on par with Kun in terms of strength. Moreover, it should be known that Jerec is also capable of severing the Force from people with a ball of light, if I'm not mistaken. Kun picked up the Chancellor - a heavyset, stocky cephalopod-person - with one hand and off to the side.

And I think we've already seen what happens when people try to sever Kun from the Force. Assuming Jerec doesn't get killed by Exar's "instakill," or the amulets, or one of many fairly unique dark side abilities first, I don't see him breaking Kun's defenses.

Erm...instakill?


I feel like I've already had this conversation.

Person A lifts a fat guy with one hand. Person B lifts a guy who has tractor beams in his boots with one hand. Somehow, I'm more impressed with Person B.

He's nto fat, you insensitive wanker. He's just big-bone'ded. (?)

And tell me a little about these "tractor beams." Now.

Originally posted by Faunus
He's nto fat, you insensitive wanker. He's just big-bone'ded. (?)

And tell me a little about these "tractor beams." Now.

As quoted from my true Master, the great Publius:

Jerec wasn't exactly terrifying or powerful enough to attract the strongest of that Jedi order. His knowledge base is unknown to me, but it's a pretty safe bet it was nowhere near what Kun had. His Force Abilities are not that uber.

Kun unleashed a torrent of the darkside that put the whole galaxy at risk. The entire Jedi Order of that time( the ones who survived, learned, and preserved knowledge continuosly for over 20,000 years) which had a FAR greater understanding of the force than the NJO did when Jerec was fought and killed, brought everything they had to contain Kun.
But when their power and Exar's Sith magic* mixed, it devestated most if not all of Yavin IV, wiping all traces of of his work their.

Exar Kun is leagues above Jerec in almost every way.

*When he was draining all the life force out of the Massasi.


I don't see Jerec winning this in any way.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Jerec wasn't exactly terrifying or powerful enough to attract the strongest of that Jedi order. His knowledge base is unknown to me, but it's a pretty safe bet it was nowhere near what Kun had. His Force Abilities are not that uber.

Kun unleashed a torrent of the darkside that put the whole galaxy at risk. The entire Jedi Order of that time( the ones who survived, learned, and preserved knowledge continuosly for over 20,000 years) which had a FAR greater understanding of the force than the NJO did when Jerec was fought and killed, brought everything they had to contain Kun.
But when their power and Exar's Sith magic* mixed, it devestated most if not all of Yavin IV, wiping all traces of of his work their.

Exar Kun is leagues above Jerec in almost every way.

*When he was draining all the life force out of the Massasi.


I don't see Jerec winning this in any way.



.....I missed you.

Originally posted by Enyalus
.....I missed you. ...evilgrinSo, did you really?


Oh, and please make the necessary corrections to my thesis.

Well, no, I think you got it spot on. Unless Jerec has the Valley of the Jedi power with him, he's absolutely nothing to one of the strongest and most knowledgable Dark Lords of the Sith ever.

In sabers, regardless of power up, Kun annihilates him. In the Force, Kun takes a vast majority if it's simply Jerec's own powers. And All Out? Combine the first assessment with the second and you get a very nasty beatdown for the Dark Jedi.

I'm not sure I'd call Kun even close to one of the most knowledgable. His knowledge consisted of Sadow's leftover notes. Powerful? Yes.

And Jerec is wrecked

Yeah, Kun basically had access to everything he needed, but he was too young and had far too little time to have studied even close to all of it. He even notes that what he takes from Ossus is more than he could ever look over in a lifetime.

Given time and a little patience, he and subsequently his armies would've destroyed the Old Republic.

But alas, the Ancient Sith are rarely noted for patience...

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Given time and a little patience, he and subsequently his armies would've destroyed the Old Republic.

But alas, the Ancient Sith are rarely noted for patience...

Ragnos was.

Originally posted by Gideon
Ragnos was. I said rarely not never.

He was one of those rare-ass circumstances and I'm talking about the Sith from the Second Great Schism to the Triumvirate.

Revan and Kreia are also notable exceptions.


Plz don't start nitpicking.

Said the nitpicker.

Originally posted by DarkSerpent
Given time and a little patience, he and subsequently his armies would've destroyed the Old Republic.

But alas, the Ancient Sith are rarely noted for patience...

Kun had what seems like a very solid plan. It was Ulic's impatience and arrogance which lead to Exar having to speed up his plans. Kun comes off like a very good strategist in the arc.

What WAS his strategy exactly? There's like nothing in place that would've led to the Jedi Order falling apart.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
What WAS his strategy exactly? There's like nothing in place that would've led to the Jedi Order falling apart.

He completely wiped out Ossus, the premier Jedi stronghold. His strategy was to build up his military and get more forces, as well as create great beasts using Sith alchemy to combat the Old Republic and found a new Sith Empire.

I'd have to reread the comic to pull out more detail than that, but its clear that Ulic ruins all of it by jumping the gun - wanting the glory for himself and the title of Dark Lord of the Sith.

He probably would have created as many as 3000 terentatek or something like that, and also I guess I forgot that this is another example of how flippant Sith Loyalty destroys another chance at Empire.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
What WAS his strategy exactly? There's like nothing in place that would've led to the Jedi Order falling apart. To get more Padawans, apprentices, and a few Knights as well. Then send them to the remaining knights and Masters and either convert them or kill them. Those that weren't eliminated at the beginning would be killed in the war.

@Enyalus

It would have succeeded if it weren't for Aleema(another example of the Sith unable to think beyond themselves and see the whole picture*) hadn't stop her Illusions and tricked(If Mandalore had stayed the situation could have still been salvaged) the mandalorians into retreating.

*Marka Ragnos and Revan are exceptions.