Chunin Exams
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Wil7
We never finished the chunin exams. Who would have won the chunin exams if it wasn't interrupted?
Csdabest
Actually. Sasuke would have defeated Gaara. Gaara was basiclly defeated by Sasuke after Chidori. he needed to rest and be saved by Kankuro and temari to regain his strength so he could transform again. And even then sasuke was delayed by both temari and kankuro after they made an escape.
So It would have been between Shino, Naruto, and Sasuke. and Temari. The way the braquet went. I beleive Temari would have fought Shino. I think Temari would have beaten shino cuz of her wind capabilities and would have just blown the bugs away and cut shino down. Then Sasuke would have most likely beat Naruto. Cuz naruto wouldnt have summone dgambunta to such a fight nor did he know Rasengan. and sasuke was already able to deal with KB.
So in the final match it most likely imo would have been Sasuke vs Temari. And we already saw how Sasuke delt with temari.
NonSensi-Klown
Gaara would have won. Sawsgay was losing to him already.
Quincy
Originally posted by Csdabest
Actually. Sasuke would have defeated Gaara. Gaara was basiclly defeated by Sasuke after Chidori.
He started to transform, and with his transformation state, would have beaten Sasuke, just like he did in the forest. The exam comes down to Gaara, or Shino.
Csdabest
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-114/page014.html
As you can see. Sasuke clearly stopped the transformation.
at this point
Gaara
Chakra was exaughsted.
Stamina was gone
Sheild was broken
Sand defense was useless
Sasuke
Still had another chidori left
Still had stamina to get past and beat gaara sand defense
Could have forced Another chidori if somehow the second one failed
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-115/page012.html
Gaara not so long after. Even the invasion didnt start he was practically helpless and feeling the sideeffects of the failed transformation. And had to be carried away.
So now. Tell me. How would have Gaara won?
NonSensi-Klown
Fall asleep. haermm
EDIT-
By the way, CS. I'm not wearing any clothes right now. I'm naked except for my glasses.
Csdabest
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Fall asleep. haermm
EDIT-
By the way, CS. I'm not wearing any clothes right now. I'm naked except for my glasses.
>_>.....um ok.....Dont know how to respond to this. But I guess I'll bring the strawberries, whip cream and cough syrup?
TheBadguy
Originally posted by Csdabest
Actually. Sasuke would have defeated Gaara. Gaara was basiclly defeated by Sasuke after Chidori. he needed to rest and be saved by Kankuro and temari to regain his strength so he could transform again. And even then sasuke was delayed by both temari and kankuro after they made an escape.
So It would have been between Shino, Naruto, and Sasuke. and Temari. The way the braquet went. I beleive Temari would have fought Shino. I think Temari would have beaten shino cuz of her wind capabilities and would have just blown the bugs away and cut shino down. Then Sasuke would have most likely beat Naruto. Cuz naruto wouldnt have summone dgambunta to such a fight nor did he know Rasengan. and sasuke was already able to deal with KB.
So in the final match it most likely imo would have been Sasuke vs Temari. And we already saw how Sasuke delt with temari.
You really think Naruto wouldn't have called out Gamabuta?
Csdabest
Do you think Gambunta would have really fought at the chuunin exams. And used his might to fight a genin? Gambunta only fights worthy opponents. He was about to not fight Ichibi. But Since it hurt his son nephew little brother how ever the frog is related. sasuke was not worthy back then to fight a Gambunta so it would have ignored Sasuke.
yungz22
Originally posted by Csdabest
Do you think Gambunta would have really fought at the chuunin exams. And used his might to fight a genin? Gambunta only fights worthy opponents. He was about to not fight Ichibi. But Since it hurt his son nephew little brother how ever the frog is related. sasuke was not worthy back then to fight a Gambunta so it would have ignored Sasuke.
your absolutely right
Kento
Naruto would have probably won. Unless Gaara transformed. Cause the way it was going Gaara would have lost because he didn't go all out. Then it would've been Shino/Naruto and Temari/Sasuke fighting I think. Shino would have a hard time with the bugs absorbing Kyuubi's chakra and speed would have been on Naruto's side with Kyuubi. Sasuke vs Temari is a tough call but in the show Sasuke would have won. Then it would come down to Sasuke vs Naruto and Naruto > Sasuke during the Chunnin exams. Though it's Sasuke so he would probably win just like he did at VotE.
And Sasuke never fought Temari. If I recall that was anime only.
Terryc250
Sasuke would win unless Gaara goes Shukaku
NonSensi-Klown
Huh, you're right. They didn't fight in the manga.
I'd say she would win then. Sawsgay is a short-range fighter for he most part and there isn't a lot of cover in the Chuunin exam tournament. It'd be a repeat of the Anime fight but without the forest for Sawsgay to hide in.
Csdabest
Im could have sworn they had a little fight in the manga as well. Also. I thought the way the bracket was Temari would have fought Shino and Naruto would have fought sasuke
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-099/page008.html
Yeah Most likely Temari would have fought sasuke. And shino would have fought naruto.
Imo. I think Temari would have lost. She was lacking back then and didnt have her level the forest jutsu till then which she could have trained for.
Also i think shino would have demolished Naruto. im starting to rethink my rookie 9 ranking
NonSensi-Klown
I thought so as well, and I checked accordingly. They don't though, Shino takes Sawsgay's spot against... um... dude, than he catches up to Gaara just as he smacks the shit out of Temari, than they fight.
If that's how the bracket works than Temari defeats Shino and Naruto defeats Sawsgay. Sawsgay doesn't have any abilities that allow him to handle Kyuubi Naruto. His Sharingan isn't advanced enough and Naruto can heal from the Chidori.
Kento
Well Naruto was first to fight...Then I thought Shino/Kankuro was suppose to fight but Kankuro dropped out making it go to Shikmaru/Temari in place of Sasuke/Gaara then Sasuke arrived to do his match. I know Sasuke's match took place before Temari/Shika's but I'm not sure if it was suppose to take place before Shino's also.
Though even that way..Naruto still wins. Naruto beats Sasuke goes to fight Temari, beats Temari.
NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by Csdabest
Imo. I think Temari would have lost. She was lacking back then and didnt have her level the forest jutsu till then which she could have trained for.
But she wouldn't need it. Her attacks can already severely injure in one hit and have an extremely large attack radius. In the open ground Sawsgay has no way to avoid being hit. How could he win?
Kento
But if it was done in the manga Sasuke would have won regardless. Temari should win but what should happen doesn't always happen in the manga.
NonSensi-Klown
He won in the anime because he had a massive forest to use as cover and tricked her into getting in close. He doesn't have the luxery of doing so in the Tournament building. All he has is the trees on the outskirts of the arena and that's it.
Csdabest
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
But she wouldn't need it. Her attacks can already severely injure in one hit and have an extremely large attack radius. In the open ground Sawsgay has no way to avoid being hit. How could he win?
Speedblitz would win. She was on the offesnive and she didnt take out Shikamaru with her attacks which shows her attacks werent all powerful. Sasuke is pretty fast and would have gotten around it Specially him and his weapon skills. Specially since he can manipulate the path to throw an opponent off. Which I believe is how he won in the manga. Imo Sasuke was smarter and had better skills than temari. It would be just sasuke overcomming her wind jutsu more than overcomming temari. Probably would have been an amazing fight if it did happen. Fast pace won as well.
Kento
Never said it would be a reasonable way to win. Just that in the manga Sasuke would probably win even if he should loose.
Csdabest
Originally posted by Kento
But if it was done in the manga Sasuke would have won regardless. Temari should win but what should happen doesn't always happen in the manga.
If thats not the truth. This will be the reason why Naruto beats sasuke in the end.
But I could see Temari winning against Sasuke for pure range reason and AOE attacks. But nothing is really impossible. I had thread another site. Pissed Narufans off How I proved Temari could beat Naruto post time skip. And how ten-ten could beat Naruto w/ prep
Kento
No Naruto will beat Sasuke just like he should have at VotE if Naruto was actually trying to kill him instead of just bring him back.
Temari should win. Sasuke shouldn't really be able to get that close to her before being sliced or blown back.
Just about anybody can beat regular Naruto even pre-time skip. It's if he gets Kyuubi or Tails that he actually become a serious threat, and Temari couldn't beat 1-tailed. She wouldn't be able to deflect the chakra arms as they can even travel underground. Kyuubi possibly because she's smart and he won't get close. TenTen. Same deal. Ninja tools aren't going to stop 1-tailed Naruto..I'd be surprised if they stopped Kyuubi Naruto actually.
NonSensi-Klown
I was going to dig up some Temeari stuff from the Manga..
but she defeats Ten-Ten off-panel.

Kento
That's why their anime fight was better.
NonSensi-Klown
It was.
Wow. Going by the manga alone she's pretty lame, pre-SR arc. Only has two fights, one of which was completely off-panel...
Kento
It was longer and showed her stopping all the ninja tool spam. So I'd say it was better than some random off-panel fight.
And she nearly lost to the weakest person during that time. Such is the fate of females in Naruto. Little screentime and no real big feats.
NonSensi-Klown
Meh, she's underrated. Her abilities allow her to defeat a very large percentage of the shinobi in the Naruto-verse. Her attacks move faster and strong enough to beat back sound itself.
Csdabest
Originally posted by Kento
No Naruto will beat Sasuke just like he should have at VotE if Naruto was actually trying to kill him instead of just bring him back.
Temari should win. Sasuke shouldn't really be able to get that close to her before being sliced or blown back.
Just about anybody can beat regular Naruto even pre-time skip. It's if he gets Kyuubi or Tails that he actually become a serious threat, and Temari couldn't beat 1-tailed. She wouldn't be able to deflect the chakra arms as they can even travel underground. Kyuubi possibly because she's smart and he won't get close. TenTen. Same deal. Ninja tools aren't going to stop 1-tailed Naruto..I'd be surprised if they stopped Kyuubi Naruto actually.
Thats why I said w/ prep. And situational with Temari. Also. That fight was the most even fight at VOTE. Sasuke should have killed Naruto before it even gotten to that level. but hey thats how shit rolls
NonSensi-Klown
Killed him?
I don't think so, personally. Naruto didn't go all out the entire fight, where as Sawsgay was actually fighting to kill up until the very end.
Kento
Originally posted by Csdabest
Thats why I said w/ prep. And situational with Temari. Also. That fight was the most even fight at VOTE. Sasuke should have killed Naruto before it even gotten to that level. but hey thats how shit rolls What would prep really help TenTen with? She's not some genius prep-god like Batman or Shikamaru.
Killed him..Like he tried once before Naruto went Kyuubi by putting a chidori through his chest? Oh wait that didn't work. Naruto was in control of himself and just wanted Sasuke back. Up until the very end of that fight after Sasuke won he was trying to kill Naruto. Then decides suddenly he doesn't want to.
@Blax - Temari's attacks > Sound?
Csdabest
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Killed him?
I don't think so, personally. Naruto didn't go all out the entire fight, where as Sawsgay was actually fighting to kill up until the very end.
Not really. Db stated otherwise. And Sasuke never wanted to fight naruto. He would have killed Naruto at the end. And when he punctured his lung that was CS agression taking effect. DB stated that Parting away from Naruto was harder than tearing apart half his body. But when Sasuke finally acknowlege Naruto i dont think he was trying to kill him anymore just beat him so he can escape.
NonSensi-Klown
Oi... link it, por favor.
I honestly don't find it very feasible that he doesn't want to kill him, considering he tombstone pile drived him off a cliff, though he didn't it in the manga, still blasting him with a level of fire that split a tree in half and shattered rock are fatal attacks.
NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by Kento
@Blax - Temari's attacks > Sound?
Yeah, her attacks pushed back Tayuya's sound genjutsu attacks and Tayuya attacked first, but her wind still intercepted. Either she moves FTS or her attacks do.
NonSensi-Klown
Triple post FTW.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/12/
Kento
Ha never noticed that.
Wil7
I will say that either Naruto, or Shino would have won.
psycho gundam
dosu kinuta would have gone far if he never tried to kill gaara in semi-beast state, that sound jutsu stuff was bomb, he onshotted lee for christ's sake.
drrylan
Originally posted by psycho gundam
dosu kinuta would have gone far if he never tried to kill gaara in semi-beast state, that sound jutsu stuff was bomb, he onshotted lee for christ's sake.
but not b4 he got his butt handed to him
Wil7
Originally posted by psycho gundam
dosu kinuta would have gone far if he never tried to kill gaara in semi-beast state, that sound jutsu stuff was bomb, he onshotted lee for christ's sake.
Hate to tell you, but if it was a 1 on 1 battle between Dosu, and Lee, Lee won if it wasn't for Zaku.
Dark-Jaxx
Originally posted by NonSensi-Klown
Triple post FTW.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/11/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/213/12/ Those scans say she deflected sound.
Not that she is faster than it, Tayuya's Genjutsu requires a constant stream of sound to be able to affect you, Temari just severed the "stream."
Does that mean she can react faster than sound? No.
k1Lla441
Originally posted by Quincy
He started to transform, and with his transformation state, would have beaten Sasuke, just like he did in the forest. The exam comes down to Gaara, or Shino.
Your right, he STARTED to transform, as in didnt finish it beacuse sasuke was kicking his ass. It would have probably ended with sasuke or naruto as the winner. At this point, even tho i dont like him, i have to admit during this time sasuke was a lot more skilled, so he would have beaten him unless he went kyuubi.
NonSensi-Klown
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Those scans say she deflected sound.
.
How do you "reflect sound" if it moves faster than you can attack?
"deflecting a blaster" with your lightsaber requires you to be able to move your lightsaber fast enough to deflect it.
As you can see from the scans, Tayuya attacked first, and Temari swung her fan and launched her attack before Tayuya's attack could even reach her.
drrylan
Originally posted by k1Lla441
Your right, he STARTED to transform, as in didnt finish it beacuse sasuke was kicking his ass. It would have probably ended with sasuke or naruto as the winner. At this point, even tho i dont like him, i have to admit during this time sasuke was a lot more skilled, so he would have beaten him unless he went kyuubi.
it wouldn't matter if he went kyuubi or not
naruto didnt know the rasengan yet
sasuke didnt gain any skillz between then and his batle at the final valley against naruto (which he won)
so he would have won
Kento
Originally posted by drrylan
it wouldn't matter if he went kyuubi or not
naruto didnt know the rasengan yet
sasuke didnt gain any skillz between then and his batle at the final valley against naruto (which he won)
so he would have won Yea he did. He gained Cursed seal 2, and the third wheel on the sharingan. Which are the only things that saved him from being beaten effortlessly.
drrylan
Originally posted by Kento
Yea he did. He gained Cursed seal 2, and the third wheel on the sharingan. Which are the only things that saved him from being beaten effortlessly.
but he got those during his battle with naruto, not b4 it
Kento
And he was loosing to kyuubi Naruto without them..Which Naruto had during the Chunnin Exams to use. No 1-tail, no third wheel, and no cursed seal 2 and Sasuke would loose. And he got cursed seal 2 before the fight. That's why he was in the barrel.
drrylan
true.

Kento

Let's not forget who actually beat Gaara and who lost to Gaara despite going cursed seal 1.
drrylan
Originally posted by Kento

Let's not forget who actually beat Gaara and who lost to Gaara despite going cursed seal 1.
the curse seal was the only reason he did lose to gaara, that and gaara's transformation, which wouldnt have activated during the 3rd exam because sasuke stopped it.
Kento
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/125/17/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/125/18/
Because Gaara couldn't have just transformed during the Sasuke/Gaara fight like he does when Sasuke caught up?
And he lost because Gaara went from somebody who sits still, and controls sand to somebody that moves fast, and attacks himself. Sasuke was already beaten before he used cursed seal cause nothing he could do was going to work.
drrylan
gaara neded time to recover from chidori
Kento
You act like Gaara would be defenseless. Sasuke would still have to deal with the sand protecting Gaara because it's powered by Shukaku not Gaara, and it's not like it took Gaara that long to recover.
drrylan
well its not like sasuke couldnt get past the sand anyway.
without the sand cocoon, gaara would die in one more hit.
if by some miracle, he survived: sasuke could do it again
Kento
Sasuke can get around the sand but he'd have some trouble just like he did the first time. Which would give Gaara enough time to get over the shock and all that. Sasuke's only chance to kill him would to do another chidori..and that would give Gaara even more time to recover and change.
Magee
Technicaly the final fight was Gaara vs Naruto which was a draw, every one else who was in the exam after Orochimaru made his move could do nothing but watch Naruto and Gaara fight or was slowly dieing (Shino). However if it had continued as normal Sasuke probably would of won.
drrylan
chapter 111 pg. 16 & 17
(srry im not "well known yet"

so how much trouble did he have again???

Wil7
Originally posted by Kento
Sasuke can get around the sand but he'd have some trouble just like he did the first time. Which would give Gaara enough time to get over the shock and all that. Sasuke's only chance to kill him would to do another chidori..and that would give Gaara even more time to recover and change.
thumbs_upI agree.
Kento
Originally posted by drrylan
chapter 111 pg. 16 & 17
(srry im not "well known yet"

so how much trouble did he have again???

All of which really didn't hurt Gaara because of the sand armor..which Gaara still had on when Sasuke caught up to him.
drrylan
but that proves that he could hit him w/ the chidori again...
drrylan
Originally posted by Magee
Technicaly the final fight was Gaara vs Naruto which was a draw, every one else who was in the exam after Orochimaru made his move could do nothing but watch Naruto and Gaara fight or was slowly dieing (Shino). However if it had continued as normal Sasuke probably would of won.
chapter 115, p. 14: "the chunin exams are over"
so... technically the final (if it were to be the last) would be gaara vs sasuke because that was the last battle that took place during the actual exams
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