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Who wins each one and why?
1. Lightsabers
2. Force
3. All-out

Shaak Ti cuz Luke is like TPM obi wan and Shaak Ti is a master in her prime..

But if you've read "Shadows of the Empire", you'll know that Vader considered Luke the most powerful of all the PT jedi.

Well I haven't so I'm calling this a Shaak Ti super-stomp.

Anyway, didn't Luke fight that KOTOR era jedi one time and he was so bad she either laughed or simply questioned wether he was an actual jedi. Best of PT my butt.

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
But if you've read "Shadows of the Empire", you'll know that Vader considered Luke the most powerful of all the PT jedi.

... No he didn't.

Luke must have been pretty powerful at the time. Yoda deemed him ready to face Vader.

He didn't really have much of a choice. It was give him a confidence boost or...=

'Luke, ready you are not. Royally boned we are'

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Luke must have been pretty powerful at the time. Yoda deemed him ready to face Vader.
Ready to face him and being powerful enough to kill him are not the same thing. Luke was ready to face his father and try to redeem him but he wasn't powerful enough to kill him if Vader's goal was to kill him. Luke notes this later on after the battle of endor.

EDIT: I agree with Exodus(wow) ROTJ Luke is screwed vs Shaak Ti.

Originally posted by Final Blaxican
... No he didn't.
... Yes, he did . I just read the book yesterday!

Anyway, I'd say:
1. Luke
2. Shaak Ti
3. ? I'm not sure.

Originally posted by Elite Hunter
Ready to face him and being powerful enough to kill him are not the same thing. Luke was ready to face his father and try to redeem him but he wasn't powerful enough to kill him if Vader's goal was to kill him. Luke notes this later on after the battle of endor.

EDIT: I agree with Exodus(wow) ROTJ Luke is screwed vs Shaak Ti.

No i don't think Luke was actually powerful enough to kill him, but Yoda and Obi Wan must have thought he had chance. Yoda and Obi Wan did not see Vader as redeemable, only Luke did.

Luke: "I can not kill my own father."

Obi Wan: "You can not escape your destiny."

This tells us that Obi Wan had great confidence in the boy.

I know. I'm scared.sweat

k ROTJ luke was sent by yoda and old ben to kill vader. TYoda believes that once you go down the dark path that you cannot be redeemed he even says this in ESB.

yes, they do believe Luke can beat vader because they believe him to be a lot weaker than he really is in his suit.(GL even says this in the commentary of ESB)

Also It doesn't matter if Vader says Luke is the Best of the PT jedi because Luke Isn't a PT jedi.

Old ben even says that he isn't the last of the jedi but the first if the new

as for the actual fight Shaak i takes all three easily.

Oh, sorry, Vader said that Luke was the strongest jedi HE'D EVER FACED to that point.

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
Oh, sorry, Vader said that Luke was the strongest jedi HE'D EVER FACED to that point. Take THAT Rogue's beliefs.

But yeah, if we were to say Luke was that good, then that would just throw the already TFU-induced messed up continuity outta whack even further. If Luke can beat Vader as Galen beat Vader, then where the hell are Luke's awesome powers of telekinesis and lightning and sabers and everything else? Puh-chya.

Originally posted by Lethal Rogue
Oh, sorry, Vader said that Luke was the strongest jedi HE'D EVER FACED to that point.

u do realize that that book was made way before the PT was made and im positive that Luke is NOT the toughest jedi he's faced to that point.

the only thing that could make it hard is that it's his son

Yeah, but the book is cannonical.

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
k ROTJ luke was sent by yoda and old ben to kill vader. TYoda believes that once you go down the dark path that you cannot be redeemed he even says this in ESB.

yes, they do believe Luke can beat vader because they believe him to be a lot weaker than he really is in his suit.(GL even says this in the commentary of ESB)

Also It doesn't matter if Vader says Luke is the Best of the PT jedi because Luke Isn't a PT jedi.

Old ben even says that he isn't the last of the jedi but the first if the new

as for the actual fight Shaak i takes all three easily.

Yoda describes Vader as being powerful. So how does he think Vader is weak in his suit?

because he's more machine than human they believe his connection to the force is alot weaker than it is or somethin like that GL makes a comment in the ESB commentary

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
because he's more machine than human they believe his connection to the force is alot weaker than it is or somethin like that GL makes a comment in the ESB commentary

Of course, his potential was greatly reduced. He still had 80% the strength of Sidious, which is pretty powerful. Vader was far from weak. In ESB Yoda describes Vader as being powerful.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Of course, his potential was greatly reduced. He still had 80% the strength of Sidious, which is pretty powerful. Vader was far from weak. In ESB Yoda describes Vader as being powerful.

we know that vader is 80% as powerful as the emperor but they(yoda obi0wan) don't.

anyways this is off the subjuect TFU shaak ti would wim.

compare all of her feats to ROTJ lukes feats and it comes down to she would destroy him in sabers.

(and on a side note something that bugs me about ESB and ROTJ is obi-wan and yoda believe that if luke fails leia still has a shot but how much training could they put her through when they are both dead/ghosts?)

Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
we know that vader is 80% as powerful as the emperor but they(yoda obi0wan) don't.

anyways this is off the subjuect TFU shaak ti would wim.

compare all of her feats to ROTJ lukes feats and it comes down to she would destroy him in sabers.

(and on a side note something that bugs me about ESB and ROTJ is obi-wan and yoda believe that if luke fails leia still has a shot but how much training could they put her through when they are both dead/ghosts?) I don't think Yoda foresaw his death in one year's time, otherwise they'd be scrambling. That or they themselves had stopped caring.

yoda chose to die in ROTJ

Because he wasn't going to live...

well duh no one lives forever.

do you really think that yoda went from being able to go toe to toe with the most powerful sith lord to keeping himself alive with the force in 20ish years?

Yeah. Turning nine hundred would do that to you. And Mace notes in Shadow Hunter that he had seen Yoda slow down during his (Mace's) lifetime of forty years.

don't get me wrong he slowed down in the last 20 years(from ROTS to ROTJ) but so much to the point that he was keeping himself alive with the force? no way.

Way. I don't understand why this is so hard for you to grasp.