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You know the Empire's insurance premiums skyrocketed after this incident.

Son of a *****. Why the fvck did I put this here? REXXX, could you please move this?

All I can say is, WOW @ Galen. ohhh


On a sidenote: does anyone know what the hell type of omni-directional attack he used to disintegrate the clone troopers? (starts at 2:23)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8Yl6uhyizYo/R6Df8NG-j6I/AAAAAAAABoU/FImS7OLMC4A/s400/holy%2B****.jpg

Did you see that shit at 2.25?! ****ing hell! Galen Marek is just retardedly powerful!

edit: Pretty sure that was just a retardedly powerful Force Repulse.

I think it was similar to the technique used by Kajin Savaros in Patterns of the Force. Hell, if anything, Savaros's display was more impressive, given his lack of training and that the individual he disintegrated was one of Palpatine's Inquisitors.

I... dislike the clone plot introduction.

REXXXX
I... dislike the clone plot introduction.

They did it with Palpatine.

Of course, though a lot of people think this raises the question why didn't the Emperor do this with Anakin, I think it actually answers that question.

I'm about 95% sure that this isn't the first time the Apprentice has been cloned. After re-reading the scene where he wakes up after Vader betrayed and killed him, I'm almost positive that it was a clone. Like this bit for instance:

'The apprentice tried to think. He flexed his hands, marveling at his amazing return to health. It seemed almost too good to In-true.

A disconcerting thought occurred to him. He hastily tugged oft first his right glove, then the left. He was reassured to see only skin beneath-no synthetic materials or artificial joints. His knuckles moved the same as always; his fingernails were neat and even. The only odd detail was that his scars were gone.

He rubbed his right hand down his chest to his stomach, remembering the terrible wound his Master had inflicted. 1 It-thought of the damage raw vacuum did to human lungs. Bacta tanks performed miracles, but they weren't that good.'

and 'The apprentice ran a hand across his chest, feeling the smoothness of his uniform as though with entirely new nerves.'

Plus no-one could survive what happened to him.


Also, the TFU2 website is really effing wierd.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Plus no-one could survive what happened to him. Saber through the abdomen, wasn't it?

And getting thrown around a room (very hard), having several bones crack from the sound of it and then getting thrown into space without a suit or anything. Unless he was taken in in like half a minute (approx how long you can survive in a vacuum) he really should of died.

Vader could have put Starkiller in a Force bubble when he was outside the ship.

I'd hit that.

And Gideon, for bringing it to my attention.

Srsly dho, why a small army of gun-toting... gunmen would rush the single dude with swords is beyond me. Before that happened I was astounded at how badass shiny!] the stormtroopers appeared.

Also, sabers that cut this time, plz. I like plasma-soluble people and severed limbs, because it's a videogame and it's Star Wars and I don't have to think about how awful that is.

@Neph: That's an interesting theory. If I had more faith in LucasArts foresight, you might have convinced me.

I'm curious to see precisely when in the timeline this is set, though.

After the first Force Unleashed and still prior to Yavin.

So new Starkiller gets flash cloned and completely trained in a year? Eh.

Edit: Dismemberment is confirmed. I am a happy child.

I'm still curious to see how they explain he's alive.

Sith Master X
I'm still curious to see how they explain he's alive.

Clone

OMG!!!!

That's freaking awesome. That is the best Star Wars clip I think I have ever seen. Good coreography, villians not walking around saying stupid things. That was incredible.

This game is going to be rated M?!?! And can I just beg them to make it a movie instead?

When I was committed to SWR, I wanted to revamp TFU and combine it with elements of Blank's trilogy. Essentially replace Luke with Starkiller and retell his story....

Though obviously the ending would be a little different than Blank's.

y replace Luke?

on the idea of the thread though: Is what we just saw Canon? Because we have never seen any force user beat THAT many stormtroopers at one time. Galen is moving on up in the "most powerful" rankings, imo. And this is galen, is it not? It might be a clone, but it definitly has to have had an essence transfer as opposed to straight cloning technology, since he remembers things, right? So it still counts as Galen, not Gaalen.

I'm not certain that there is any sort of spirit transfer.

Because Palpatine would need to survive and Luke's a hero; in Blank's trilogy, Palpatine dies but succeeds in destroying Luke Skywalker as we know it

an R rated movie could make Luke what we see in Blank's trilogy. His final book redeemed Luke a bit, regardless. and life isn't black and white like it always seems to be in star wars movies. I'd like to see Luke fail to do the right thing for once in a movie.


If Galen remembers his past life, and IS a clone, then it must be an essence transfer. We know it exists, since Sidious has done it, and Bane knew how, and Set Harth escaped with the knowledge to do it.

What was Vader talking about in the trailer though? What purpose did he serve? If that was supposed to be the BEGINNING of TFU 2, then they have some explaining to do.

Discuss ze other shit in ze new thread I made!

Vader's cloned Marek more than once as of TFU2.

Right, but he always has his memories, so it must be some sort of essence transfer. He didn't need re-trained, after-all, after being clone in TFU.

Maybe theres some way to pass on memories to clones. Star wars tech seems capable of that imo.

sure.

But we have never seen such a thing.

The Force, people. It makes little Anakins.

Don't question it.

Anakin is clearly defective (he's special). Ergo the Force sucks.

The Force does suck.. Screw you, Force.

Is the game actually going to have cinematics with those graphics? Those stormtroopers look almost completely real! If only the Classic Trilogy had those kinds of special effects (that's not blasphemy is it?).

Meh. Going by feats Starkiller is shaping up to be pretty much the strongest force user in the mythos when it comes to feats and application. Unless that disintegration technique was a heat attack (which judging by the surrounding area it wasn't), that would mean that he simply... unraveled those Storm Troopers and their armor molecule by molecule, which would be the most concentrated force attack we've seen so far, to my knowledge.

Granted, I haven't read any of the LotF and beyond shit, so who knows what magical furze abilities they've pulled out of their asses.

Christ... anything to make a flashy game sillier and more enticing to people's wallets.

This is like the 50th time they've brought clones in to Star Wars and the 50th time it's sucked. They better have the most badass, jizz-in-your-pants explanation that would make the Usual Suspects look like the Mario Bros. movie.

Soldiers with laser guns rush a guy without guns? The f*ck?

And apparently, Marek is Dark Phoenix.

If we are to assume that the Galen-clone we saw Vader awaken towards the end of the clip also possesses the same memories/skill as the one who was dishing out all the pwnage in the beginning, then an essence transfer probably isn't the culprit (as that would mean Galen's essence is being split up between multiple clones -- which I highly doubt.)

wait... were those all GALEN clones? i didn't think that was Galen. Maybe I was wrong.

truejedi
wait... were those all GALEN clones?
Yes.

Head on over to the official TFU2 website. You are one of those clones. You also experience memories from the first game as one, and one of the audio loops mentions that you're remembering stuff, so yeah, I'm thinking that they can implant memories. Though I honestly have no idea what the f*cks going on with it.

what happens when you remember everything? I tired of playing the little games.

I never got that far. My screen just froze up after the second flashback. Plus some of those games were just non-sensical, like the wierd spinning rings ones.

You just had to let them line back up and hit the space bar.

The memory games at the bottom annoyed me, and I was just unlocking cut scenes I had already seen.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Christ... anything to make a flashy game sillier and more enticing to people's wallets.

This is like the 50th time they've brought clones in to Star Wars and the 50th time it's sucked. They better have the most badass, jizz-in-your-pants explanation that would make the Usual Suspects look like the Mario Bros. movie.

Soldiers with laser guns rush a guy without guns? The f*ck?

And apparently, Marek is Dark Phoenix.

Good point Lord Lucien.

Makes you wonder, is the point of the video game to show that Galen actually trumps Skywalker and his brood, or is George Lucas just trying to outsell Grand Theft Auto (Yeaaaaaa riiiiiiight) with mind-numbing special effects?

Marek is top 3 or 4 force users now, IMO. after seeing that clip. That was ridiculous. No one can beat that many clones at once, i would have sworn. Heck, he may be challenging for 1 or 2 now.

Like I said, going by feats and actual application he's pretty damn close to 1. I could see him handing Sideous his ass a healthy amount of times out of 10.

All I can say is that IF Galen is in fact more skilled/powerful now, then he was during TFU I (which seems to be the case), I could easily see him doing better against Sidious then anyone else (sans perhaps Mace.)

What a stupid plot.

I think G. Lucas has inadvertently created a dilemma due to his greed to poop out video games. The great tragedy of the TFU franchise and Galen Marek is that he AND whatever clones of him exist will all have to be killed off before Episode IV, and even if he defeats Sidious again in TFU II, somehow, he will have to lose or die...

Because if he somehow does survive into the timeline of the Classic Trilogy, then Where the F*** is he during those three movies. There's no way a Force user of his caliber (if he was alive) would just sit on the sidelines during the events that took place during Ep. IV-VI. Of course other folks remained hidden, right? Abeloth, Darth Krayt (but I haven't seen either of those folks do what Galen did in that trailer).

George Lucas inadvertently created a dilemma as soon as he was allowed free reign to do with his creation as he wished.


A Marek clone is going to survive and wind up re-awakening from cryo-sleep just after the events of the Legacy era. Nah f*ck that, he'll be sent back in time by Abeloth to found the Jedi Order.

Not only that, Galen Marek actually surpassed Caedus in Flow-walking, and broke through the bubble to arrive in Tatooine circa 40-45 years before Ep IV. As it turns out, Marek met Shmi Skywalker on the wrong side of Mos Eisley, and is actually....get this....Anakin Skywalker's father.

Now THAT would explain where the Skywalker bloodline got its power.

Maybe... but that's far too bland for LucasArts. How 'bout if it turns out that Kento Marek is actually Cliegg Lars. And Galen is actually the child of Owen and Beru that they gave to their secret Jedi father to be trained away from that crazy Anakin.

Maybe he Flow Walks and becomes Sidious's Master.

Maybe he flow walks his essence INTO sidious, and IS sidious in episode 5 and 6.

Maybe we get to find out what really happened with Jacen during his journey. Turns out he went back in time and pretended to be Darth Vader in order to get the Marek clones to bring about the end of the Empire.

ohhhh, i like that. I think maybe he(Caedus) CREATED Anakin Solo out of Galen Marek DNA, in order to get him to die to the Vong, so that he could successfully turn Tahiri in order to get her to kill Paelleon.

Paellon was the long-term goal.

George Lucas can still redeem himself. He simply has to allow a storyline where Luke Skwyalker uses some kind of Force-Unleashed-esque bubble, and incinerate not stormtroopers, but DOZENS of Sith Lords.

I think that is the only he could ever restore balance to the Force.

George Lucas can still redeem himself. He simply has to allow a storyline where Luke Skywalker uses some kind of Force-Unleashed-esque bubble that would incinerate not stormtroopers, but DOZENS of Sith Lords, turning them to cinders and ash.

I think that is the only way he could ever restore balance to the Force.

It's not even George Lucas. I bet you that he barely even skimmed the script for this game before approving it, and we all know he doesn't give a shit about EU or about continuity. Hell, I probably wouldn't; **** the hardcore fans.

Newsflash: Marek is Bane, come at last to challenge Sidious after eons accruing strength via the Essence transfer. Abeloth is Zannah's portion of that consciousness, ditched as a burden on after developing weaknesses--this time after encouraging (encouraging!) a cult of Set Harth's disciples to teach the technique to shape shifters, providing the galaxy with immortal Force Users that can literally be anyone--and will be the reason that MarekBane turns once again towards the light (she will long have since assimilated Juno) only to fall once more after his inevitable betrayal/failure. (This relies on the assumption that Bane, like the ineffable Revan, has learned the great Darth Bandon's technique of pushing subordinates into consoles without turning to the Dark Side.)

That's probably the most plausible of options.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
(This relies on the assumption that Bane, like the ineffable Revan, has learned the great Darth Bandon's technique of pushing subordinates into consoles without turning to the Dark Side.)
for mentioning God. Bandon

Marek is supposed to be a "what if" scenario: what if Luke Skywalker had been raised by the Sith?

It's not so difficult to imagine that he's Skywalker-class in terms of potential and aptitude. I'd say he's easily on par with Caedus or Luke himself in terms of potential.

Is Galen light or dark side in this game?

I suppose he'll be on the light side, hence the blue sabers... But he's more of a grey Jedi actually, balancing between both sides in my honest opinion.

We all knew Galen was a friggen beast of the Force, but this is just making him nearly more powerful than Sidious. Will he kill Vader in the end instead of the alternate ending in TFU or both Vader and Sidious? Will he train Luke or Yoda? Will he become stronger than Luke? We'll just have to see.

I doubt he'll train Yoda...

My apologies . . . I meant would he be the one to restore the Jedi Order? IMO, he is more like a Jedi of The Old Republic and I'm not talking during the Clone Wars era. I'm thinking of the Mandalorian Wars and the Great Sith War.

I can't think of a Sith or Jedi that can beat him. If he is this powerful as shown in the game trailer, than who exactly can stop him? Obi-Wan wouldn't have needed to send Luke to Yoda . . . Galen would be able to train him on Yavin and other places.

To be fair, he is only fighting mooks.

Originally posted by Gideon
Marek is supposed to be a "what if" scenario: what if Luke Skywalker had been raised by the Sith?

It's not so difficult to imagine that he's Skywalker-class in terms of potential and aptitude. I'd say he's easily on par with Caedus or Luke himself in terms of potential.

I have a problem with someone who had regular force sensitive parents having the same potential as one who's father was the embodiment of the force.

what he did to those clone-troopers was something we haven't seen from anyone else though,

Originally posted by truejedi
what he did to those clone-troopers was something we haven't seen from anyone else though, Actually Zannah did the same to her friend. Just to a helluva lesser degree.

Originally posted by truejedi
what he did to those clone-troopers was something we haven't seen from anyone else though, Clone troopers?

Stormtroopers, dude.

you say potato, Quayle says potatoe...

Alligator-crocodile.

People have been disintegrating stuff for ages, Sidious, Bane, Zannah etc. According to wookie theres the attack 'Force Destruction' that is described as vaporising opponents. This really wasn't that much new.

Except not really, because as far as I know we've yet to actually see it be done to someone in a quantifiable manner (I.E. the attack being carried about can be displayed to us with a quote or on-screen or something).

The concept of "well anyone can do it" doesn't mean much unless we've actually seen them do it.

Personally, until I read a quote or see a video that shows someone else waving their hand and watching someone's entire body unravel into dust before my eyes, I'm going to just assume that Galen is for all intents and purposes numero uno when it comes to force combat.

First with have galen marek, now we have an unknown female jedi that let out a massive force wave that destroys entire enviornments and blocks saber strikes with her bare hands.

SW is getting more and more ridiculous. Next thing we know galen marek is actually darth bane.

'It happened so quickly Bane never even had a chance to put up his guard . . . but the attack wasn't directed at him. The right hand of the boy she had called Tomcat- her cousin and childhood friend- disintegrated. With a mere thought she obliterated everything below his wrist: flesh, bone and tendon vanished in a bloody explosion, leaving only a ragged stump.'

'Bane thrust out with the Force, and a dozen of the oncoming creatures exploded into dust and tiny flecks of small, twisted metal.'

'That enemy vanquished, he used the Force to disintegrate two more advancing technobeasts,' -ROT

Bane and Zannah've done it at least.

Does the novel take precedence over the comic or vice-versa? Because in the comic Tomcat's arm explodes at the wrist.

I think books take precedence over comics as higher form of canon. The Force Unleashed book is held over its comic form for instance.

You guys are forgetting one thing though:




Our center of worship just happens to be the article of the day.

DS
I have a problem with someone who had regular force sensitive parents having the same potential as one who's father was the embodiment of the force.

The idea that having the last name Skywalker makes you uber is probably embodies retardation better than anything else, IMHO.

Luke can be still powerful in the Force, but he's not as (nor should he be) Anakin's level in potential. He's not the Chosen One, so there's no reason for him to be.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I have a problem with someone who had regular force sensitive parents having the same potential as one who's father was the embodiment of the force.

Yes that is definitely an issue. This just demonstrates Lucas cares more about making money than leaving a worthy and consistent legacy behind him (not that I blame him, he's worth a couple billion, give or take).

The ironic twist from which he benefits is, that even though he may alienate a lot of die-hard SW fans because Marek may be on par or even better than Skywalker, those same fans will buy the game anyway.

I believe Lucas DID say that Luke became what Anakin was supposed to be.

Lucas is better than common sense in his world.

Why don't we do something ridiculous: and say SCREW CONTINUITY!?!?

*runs away quickly from the stoning and thrown sandals*

Originally posted by SWFan4Life
The ironic twist from which he benefits is, that even though he may alienate a lot of die-hard SW fans because Marek may be on par or even better than Skywalker, those same fans will buy the game anyway.

That's the kicker, really. Despite all the hate I'm sure Beefy will be the first one to get TOR and run around Nar Shadda as a Sith warrior named Captain_Jewface69 and TJ will be his sidekick MikeHawksBig. It's inevitable.

I think Marek probably gets killed in TFU II; however, like Sidious after ROTJ, Marek transfers his spirit into a little know farmboy on Tatooine.

I think that should clear up the continuity; what better fusion than Luke and Galen! Kamehameha baby.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
That's the kicker, really. Despite all the hate I'm sure Beefy will be the first one to get TOR and run around Nar Shadda as a Sith warrior named Captain_Jewface69 and TJ will be his sidekick MikeHawksBig. It's inevitable.

For me, I will just use the Luke Skywalker costume in TFU II. That way, I'll keep my sanity when playing it lol.

Originally posted by REXXXX
I... dislike the clone plot introduction.

from what i have been reading and watching on TFU II site it seems like they are trying to make you unsure as to weather he's a clone or not.

i mean the just to hint to it but at the same time the "sub text" screams how can that be a clone?.....

I'm sure he is though.

anyways the first one was my all time favorite game so i pre-ordered the collectors edition of the new one....hope it was worth it! lol

naw, i won't be buying it. I have never had time for MMO's, even when I was a kid. Now.. gosh, i have had Bioshock for close to a year and I have played it for about an hour. its still on my to do list.

MMO? This game?

oops, i thought i was in the other thread.

It's okay, it's getting hard to tell one disappointment from the other.

I didn't even like TFU1 compared to the old JK1F2. Does that make me lame?

No. The JK games were the pinnacle of Star Wars action games. Force Unleashed is just prettier.

exactly. And rex, you know why you liked JK better? Because there weren't flashing lights when you used the force, and your lightsaber cut through things.

Wow, I just saw the trailer for TFU II. Good god, the plot is stupid and so are the over the top force powers. Is LucasArts trying to one-up Bioware in stupidity?

JK II: Outcast is hailed as the #1 Star Wars game on several sites, followed by KOTOR.

JKII was indeed AWESOME.

truejedi
I believe Lucas DID say that Luke became what Anakin was supposed to be.

Which is more powerful than the Emperor; that doesn't mean that they have identical Force potentials.

A small spoiler alert: while watching E3 2010 this morning, the game designer hinted that Galen in TFU 2 is not I say again not a clone. It's possible that in the ending of TFU 1 that Galen wasn't killed, but merely knocked out. Vader then Galen into a medically induced coma for 6 months. The powers he wields in this TFU are astonishing. The game takes place a year or so before Luke is 'discovered'.

If this is true and Galen continues to gain strength, then Star Wars mythos would have to be re-written. If Lucas sanctions this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCTfMlAMn5M

Kota: "" - Blackman

I doubt it's verbatim, but should that actually be the case consider a long-standing loose end a little closer to being tied up. The continued existence of DE aside, LucasArts has stolen my dreams (Inception?!)answered my prayers.

That said, Jedi Academy is still completely superior. I really really really don't understand why it doesn't have a shiny sequel by now.

No lightsaber cutting I notice.

You just like Jedi Academy because of Ragnos.

Palpatine's still better.

I thought Jedi Academy's single player sucked balls compared to JO2. Multiplayer's alright though.

I did like JA, to be honest. Excellent story.

Once again, this is one of the dumbest storylines Star Wars ever came out with. At least the concept of the True Sith is badass, albeit the specifics shit on canon. But this, really?

Nah, I don't mind this, actually. At all. And I tell you why....

It allows for a one-hit-wonder superman who must be rendered inoperable before the events of the original trilogy. That means, for as badass as he is, Marek is limited and cannot reach the heights of Gary Stu levels.

For people who've seen TFUII E3 trailer, do you notice what he does to that giant droid who fires...whatever it fires at him? Stops it with one hand. I noticed a similar technique used by the female Jedi in the latest TOR cinematic trailer, where she stops a Sith's lightsaber with her hand...

Is this supposed to be a variation on whatever Force power Vodo-Siosk Baas and Yoda use, or something? I've never seen it before, and I find it pretty stupid. Almost as stupid as the premise for TFUII...I mean, the first story ends with him supposedly dying, yes? Him being turned into part machine and surviving was the non-canon storyline, wasn't it?

I'm not following you guys with the ridiculous force powers thing. It seems that some of you have forgotten that Anakin is the by-product of a one-night stand between the force and a slave girl. If the force is powerful enough to bring a bitter old woman to orgasm, deflecting a missile or two doesn't seem too far fetched.

Though, frankly, the force could do with some better standards. ermm

Originally posted by Gideon
Nah, I don't mind this, actually. At all. And I tell you why....

It allows for a one-hit-wonder superman who must be rendered inoperable before the events of the original trilogy. That means, for as badass as he is, Marek is limited and cannot reach the heights of Gary Stu levels.

I don't even understand why this storyline was needed so close to the Galactic Civil War. The whole TFU stuff is retarded.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Though, frankly, the force could do with some better standards. ermm
You mean you wouldn't've tapped that?

Dude, she was a slave girl who lived in a desert.

Who knows when was the last time she got checked out at a clinic.

Sure, but the Force doesn't have to worry about STDs. It can use Force Heal.

Sometimes, there is no cure.

I've actually been drawing a lot of comparisons between the cinematic videos for The Force Unleashed and The Old Republic. It's kind of annoying.

The clonetrooper resisting Force Lightning and pulling his combat knife was priceless.

Eminence
The continued existence of DE aside,

Jesus, man. Let it go. Palpatine's better than everyone. Get over it, accept it.

I really doubt Lucas would ever drastically change the Classic Trilogy mythos that would severely contradict or completely refute any of the movies. If he did, he should be arrested.

Either way, the movies are the highest level of canon, and they trump the games, comics, novels and everything that comes after movies (not sure about the original screenplays though). So if you are really concerned about Galen being more powerful than every other Jedi, you can just choose to ignore it.

I would just buy TFU and enjoy it for the gameplay. The plot and storyline aside, the special effects and Force powers are incredibly fun.

How do i delete redundant posts? Sorry guys.....

Only mods can, but there's no need, so no worries.

Mind trick meakes people explode What will LA think off next...

What a stupid plot.... Even TOR's sith emperor looks a lot like galen marek but with sith eyes and shorter hair.

Something that supports my hypothesis that the two are one in the same.

Originally posted by Enyalus
For people who've seen TFUII E3 trailer, do you notice what he does to that giant droid who fires...whatever it fires at him? Stops it with one hand. I noticed a similar technique used by the female Jedi in the latest TOR cinematic trailer, where she stops a Sith's lightsaber with her hand...

Is this supposed to be a variation on whatever Force power Vodo-Siosk Baas and Yoda use, or something? I've never seen it before, and I find it pretty stupid. Did anyone else notice that when she was blocking the saber with her hand, the saber looked like it was starting to crack/break? (happens at 3:39)

Hell, what's the need for saber to saber combat when you're capable of snapping them in half with your bare hands? Stupid, imo.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Something that supports my hypothesis that the two are one in the same. Hm, I guess that would explain why there were so many lightsaber-toting baddies in that clip... mmm

It's made out of energy so it can't "break". Energy can be disrupted if it loops on itself though. It could have been "shorting out", per say.

^ 3:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISb7ePM0c4

That f*cker is breaking.

I noticed that too. That doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Galan007
Did anyone else notice that when she was blocking the saber with her hand, the saber looked like it was starting to crack/break? (happens at 3:39)
Oh shit. I didn't notice that til you brought it to my attention. Looks like it darkens and appears to start cracking.

And what the hell was up with that Sith's saber skills? Hopping around everywhere, taking big looping swings that're easily ducked and dodged. Dude kinda sucked. We might have a Dark Side candidate for Johun Othone.

Originally posted by Galan007
^ 3:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UISb7ePM0c4

That f*cker is breaking.

Well I got nothin.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Oh shit. I didn't notice that til you brought it to my attention. Looks like it darkens and appears to start cracking.

And what the hell was up with that Sith's saber skills? Hopping around everywhere, taking big looping swings that're easily ducked and dodged. Dude kinda sucked. We might have a Dark Side candidate for Johun Othone. He's demonstrated more abilities than that overrated Revan though.

Originally posted by Alistair
He's demonstrated more abilities than that overrated Revan though.
Say what? Force Lightning that's resisted by a Republic trooper cannon fodder? Force Push? I'm more impressed with the female Jedi, who apparently can do the Kamehameha.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Say what? Force Lightning that's resisted by a Republic trooper cannon fodder? Force Push? I'm more impressed with the female Jedi, who apparently can do the Kamehameha.
don't forget the auto kill vs. Ventress during DR.
it pwnd

Cracking lightsaber? That's really intense... but please do discuss the TOR game in a relevant thread. This is for discussing TFU2.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Say what? Force Lightning that's resisted by a Republic trooper cannon fodder? Force Push? I'm more impressed with the female Jedi, who apparently can do the Kamehameha. I meant she, not he. Sorry,

From the TOR trailer, she might have been wearing some beskar on her hand and a lightsaber can't pierce that armor. Or she could have created some sort of unknown Force barrier to stop the blade. Either way, it was a pretty nice looking effect. The Sgt. in the trailer appeared to be one of those troops who was used to pain and it didn't matter to him. After all, he did use a thermal detonator at point-blank range. Maybe he'll be written into the game as a Force-sensitive.

Yea that trooper deflecting the Force lightning definitely has to have some kind of Force-sensitivity or resistance. And what's with the troopers lacking some originality? Their helmets are too similar to the ROTS clone troopers.

The jedi chick is the Grand Master of the Jedi Order at that time, isn't she? That would explain her ability to short/break a saber. But it doesn't seem like she could hold it for more than a few seconds. And it would be much easier for her to just short the power charge of the saber, like Lomi Plo did to Skywalker in the Swarm Wars.

The Kamehameha was over the top, but still pretty cool effects.

containment field breech?

Originally posted by SWFan4Life

The jedi chick is the Grand Master of the Jedi Order at that time, isn't she? That would explain her ability to short/break a saber. But it doesn't seem like she could hold it for more than a few seconds. And it would be much easier for her to just short the power charge of the saber, like Lomi Plo did to Skywalker in the Swarm Wars.

Nope. It's been confirmed that it is not Satele Shan who is the Grandmaster during TOR, but this movie is set before she becomes the Grandmaster.

I honestly think it could be Satele's mother who was exiled from the order.

Edit: On topic there is a Kane Starkiller skin.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100615184731/starwars/images/d/d7/OriginalStarkiller-TFUII.jpg http://www.starwars.com/img/community/event/museum/f19971001/mom_vader.jpg
Now that is awesome!

TFU became stupid as soon as there was the idea that someone who has spent the majority of his life as a sith, can just turn his back on the dark side.

star wars itself was weakened when the dark-side became something everyone can play around with. before vader, no one had ever really come back from the dark side. revan I suppose, but he fell again.

now everyone does it for a week, and is immediately forgiven of whatever they did during that week when they get back. Like vegas.

What happens on the dark side, STAYS on the dark side.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
TFU became stupid as soon as there was the idea that someone who has spent the majority of his life as a sith, can just turn his back on the dark side. qft

Originally posted by truejedi
star wars itself was weakened when the dark-side became something everyone can play around with. before vader, no one had ever really come back from the dark side. revan I suppose, but he fell again.

now everyone does it for a week, and is immediately forgiven of whatever they did during that week when they get back. Like vegas.

What happens on the dark side, STAYS on the dark side.

Yup I agree. Although I think it may be different with Cade Skywalker. I know there's only one "Chosen One", but they portray Cade to be a Chosen One as well. Ridiculous force potential, amazing abilities, can use the dark side without being corrupted, etc.. Still, goes against Lucas' concept of the dark side.

....Electric Judgment.

Anytime it's used, I facepalm.

How come?

Because lightning coming out of your fingertips is iconic, and it is dark, and any attempted rationalization of it to make a variant of it for light side users is just...weak.

Like, I believe the first time I came across it, Jacen using it on the Vong during the Ebaq 9 battle (did anyone else lol at Ackbar setting a trap?) and I just...died a little bit.

See, I don't really have a problem with light siders being able to utilize some emotions/feelings/powers that might not be 'light side approved' per se (Mace did it, Plo did it, Luke did it, etc.) I do, however, completely disagree with the number of characters who have whimsically come back to the light after fully embracing the dark side. As was said earlier, that defeats the whole concept behind "the dark side".

Marek's redemption was poorly portrayed. In the game he goes from Sith to "Jedi" in like *snaps* that, and no one seems to really care about the hundreds of rebels or several Jedi he killed.

Least Revan took a while.

Well he really wasn't a true Sith, he wasn't even a real apprentice. More like a Dark Jedi, who turned to the light after he saw his father's manifestation on Kashyyk.

Since they could use every Force user they could get, I doubt it was a big deal to the rebels.

Rationalization. The man was trained from childhood by Vader, he knew of little else beyond the Dark Side. And he changed so friggin fast.

Too fast. I hate when that happens. It's such a weak ploy. Vader's was meaningful, but Marek's was... not.

At least Vader had known a life before the Dark Side, he knew what he was missing. Took a direct confrontation with his son to spark a year's worth of conflict in him. And then another confrontation. And then witness to his son's torture and possible death.


All it took for a Marek was a buxom blonde with high cheek bones.

I'd go lightside for a buxom blonde with high cheek bones.

Minus the bitchy british accent.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
I'd go lightside for a buxom blonde with high cheek bones.

Minus the bitchy british accent.

Hey, one of the primary reasons little Ani fell was to save his brunette chica with the nice abdominal section.

Nah, the british accent is cute, as long as their teeth aren't effed up.