Bison vs Gill

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crimson_2010
This is Bison from street fighter alpha 3 vs Gill. who will rules the world?

XMr. WinterX
Bison mind rapes the Gill

Esomark
Bison's mind rape was shrugged off easily by Ryu who isn't on Gill's level. Gill also survived the Shun Goku Satsu so Bison would probably get WTF PWNED by the Seraphic Wing.

majid86
Ditto

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by Esomark
Bison's mind rape was shrugged off easily by Ryu who isn't on Gill's level. Gill also survived the Shun Goku Satsu so Bison would probably get WTF PWNED by the Seraphic Wing.

When exactly did Ryu easily shrug off Bison's mind control? As far as I know, he needed Sagat, Sakura & Ken to help him get out of it.
Also, Gill only *survived* as he could resurrect. He was still technically killed by the SGS. Bison himself *survived* the SGS as he came back in SFIV.

Esomark
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
When exactly did Ryu easily shrug off Bison's mind control? As far as I know, he needed Sagat, Sakura & Ken to help him get out of it.
Also, Gill only *survived* as he could resurrect. He was still technically killed by the SGS. Bison himself *survived* the SGS as he came back in SFIV.

It's been a long time since I last played Alpha 3 so I interpreted the event wrong. According to the plot FAQ, the aforemention trio did psyche him out of it.

He was back in SF II before SF IV but it's true that he "survived" the SGS.

AsbestosFlaygon
Well, if you put it that way, Gen survived SGS.
I'd say Gill is stronger than Gen.

Anyways, for the match, Bison gets raped by Seraphic Wing.
Slide combo + double elbow uppercut, followed by clothesline slam. Rinse and repeat to KO ANY opponent.

NemeBro
Keep your gameplay mechanics out of this goddamn thread boy.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by Esomark
It's been a long time since I last played Alpha 3 so I interpreted the event wrong. According to the plot FAQ, the aforemention trio did psyche him out of it.

He was back in SF II before SF IV but it's true that he "survived" the SGS.

Ah, okay then. No biggie.

I don't know if I'm interpreting your statement wrongly (my apologies if I am), but Bison was hit with the SGS at the 'end' of SFII. He was resurrected in a new body some time between II & IV.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
Well, if you put it that way, Gen survived SGS.
I'd say Gill is stronger than Gen.

Anyways, for the match, Bison gets raped by Seraphic Wing.
Slide combo + double elbow uppercut, followed by clothesline slam. Rinse and repeat to KO ANY opponent.

IMO, Gill > Gen as well.
Though Gen truly survived the SGS, a feat that only Gouken has managed repeat. The first time he did so, he was KO'd. Whereas Gill was killed, but he resurrected some time after.

We don't know what Seraphic Wing does. On the off-chance that gameplay damage does translate over to canon, it is supposed to be more damaging than SGS, but KKZ is more damaging than SW I think. mmm

Meh, screw it, we don't know what kind of damage SW does in canon.

NemeBro
When was it shown or stated that Gouken actually survived the SGS?

I cannot recall.

Only Gen has truly "survived" the SGS.

Darkstorm Zero
Well, Gouken's method of "surviving" the SGS was effective at keeping him alive, although he was comatose for years from it.

However, if gouki's ending is official (and thats a strong possability, sice at least 3 other endings are refferenced to this battle including Gouken's own), Gouken survived a point blank SGS without anything happening whatsoever.

Demonic Phoenix
Originally posted by NemeBro
When was it shown or stated that Gouken actually survived the SGS?

I cannot recall.

Only Gen has truly "survived" the SGS.

Gouki nailed Gouken with the SGS in their fight all those years back, and while Gouken managed to stay alive, he was still KO'd and left in a coma.

Gouken states that he "regained consciousness" in his SFIV intro. Gouki alludes to Gouken having "awakened" in his SFIV intro.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Well, Gouken's method of "surviving" the SGS was effective at keeping him alive, although he was comatose for years from it.

However, if gouki's ending is official (and thats a strong possability, sice at least 3 other endings are refferenced to this battle including Gouken's own), Gouken survived a point blank SGS without anything happening whatsoever.

If Gouken truly has mastered the Power of Nothingness by the time of SFIV, IMO, I can see him surviving the SGS with no ill-effects.

I_Cheat_U_LOSE
Bison is a better villain
but, Gill is more powerful

Esomark
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ah, okay then. No biggie.

I don't know if I'm interpreting your statement wrongly (my apologies if I am), but Bison was hit with the SGS at the 'end' of SFII. He was resurrected in a new body some time between II & IV.



That's true he was resurrected some time between II and IV but apparently the whole thing about him getting SGS'd in SF II is null and void after the whole SF IV anime aftermath trailer. I think the only time he's truly been SGS'd was in Alpha 3 but then there's the whole thing with Charlie so who knows if that's even true. Whenever I have time, I'll have to go over the plot FAQ by Tiamat.

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