Cin Drallig vs Ven Zallow
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Jmanghan
Who wins?
Battle takes place in a dead forest.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Nephthys
Zallow imo. Cin is pretty powerful though, is there any feats that put Zallow on Cin's Level. (Besides fighting a young inexperienced Malgus) :P
Nephthys
Malgus wasn't that young and inexperienced. At that point he'd beaten Satele, Kao and the Jedi from The Third Lesson.
I'm basing it on the fact that Zallow put up a good fight against Malgus, while Drallig could pwned by Anakin while he was choking out a padawan.
ares834
Zallow takes this.
Stealth Moose
Yeah, Cin Drallig had very low showings despite having supposively amazing saber prowess.
JediMaster97
Drallig probably wins. Being the battle master of th golden age of the jedi is more impressive than putting on a fight against Malgus in my opinion.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by JediMaster97
Drallig probably wins. Being the battle master of th golden age of the jedi is more impressive than putting on a fight against Malgus in my opinion. Don't underestimate Malgus... Ever.... Dude was comparable to Dooku. Maybe even on par, but I'm not starting that argument.
Col. Valerian
What has Drallig ever done, other than having accolades such as "master swordsman" and "battlemaster of the Order"?
Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
What has Drallig ever done, other than having accolades such as "master swordsman" and "battlemaster of the Order"?
He got his ass handed to him by Anakin Skywalker.
Mizukage Yoda
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
He got his ass handed to him by Anakin Skywalker.
It was a prolonged duel. We see only the tail end in the footage.
NewGuy01
Isn't it like one sentence long in the RotS novel? Like, Anakin walks up and hacks him in the shoulder, then it's over?
Mizukage Yoda
Originally posted by NewGuy01
Isn't it like one sentence long in the RotS novel? Like, Anakin walks up and hacks him in the shoulder, then it's over?
I don't think so. Besides the game is just as canon as the novel in places it doesn't contradict the film.
ares834
I'd say the novelization being line edited by Lucas himself and typically far more in line with the movie would be "more canon" than the game. Specifically since they way the game portrays the fight does contradict the movie (no padawans).
Jmanghan
Originally posted by ares834
I'd say the novelization being line edited by Lucas himself and typically far more in line with the movie would be "more canon" than the game. Specifically since they way the game portrays the fight does contradict the movie (no padawans). Serra Kato???
ares834
He kills Serra Keto before battling Cin Drallig. Plus she is a Jedi Knight not a padawan.
Stealth Moose
Movie canon shows Anakin choking someone will defending against Cin's relatively uninspired assault. Then he dies.
Col. Valerian
Based on what we briefly see in the movie, Drallig wasn't all that impressive.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by ares834
He kills Serra Keto before battling Cin Drallig. Plus she is a Jedi Knight not a padawan. But she is Cin Drallig's Padawan.
Stealth Moose
She's also the most broken versus minigame character too.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Nephthys
Malgus wasn't that young and inexperienced. At that point he'd beaten Satele, Kao and the Jedi from The Third Lesson.
I'm basing it on the fact that Zallow put up a good fight against Malgus, while Drallig could pwned by Anakin while he was choking out a padawan. Pretty sure that was Zonakin, Cin is represented as a weakling, just like
Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar. Btw, we all know ROTS Anakin is above Malgus, right??
Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Pretty sure that was Zonakin, Cin is represented as a weakling, just like
Saesee Tiin and Agen Kolar. Btw, we all know ROTS Anakin is above Malgus, right??
No, Anakin was not "in the zone" during the Drallig fight.
Also, Zonakin is used entirely too much. By this kind of logic, Hetizo Trace can move faster than a whipid bounty hunter, who can himself move as a blur to Force users when she has a zone moment; Hetizo Trace can beat anyone. Barriss Offee when she sampled bota had a universe-wide connection to the Force and was seemingly all-powerful. Doped Barriss solos.
Zonakin was stupid back in 2005, and he's not aged any better. I blame GL.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
No, Anakin was not "in the zone" during the Drallig fight.
Also, Zonakin is used entirely too much. By this kind of logic, Hetizo Trace can move faster than a whipid bounty hunter, who can himself move as a blur to Force users when she has a zone moment; Hetizo Trace can beat anyone. Barriss Offee when she sampled bota had a universe-wide connection to the Force and was seemingly all-powerful. Doped Barriss solos.
Zonakin was stupid back in 2005, and he's not aged any better. I blame GL.
That was only my opinion, I apologize
Col. Valerian
lol, don't scare him off Jamoose.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
lol, don't scare him off Jamoose. IM SUICIDAL NOW
Col. Valerian
He tends to have that effect on people.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Col. Valerian
He tends to have that effect on people.
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Stealth Moose
FEAR MY ALL-CAPS. OBEY.
Col. Valerian
I COUNTER BACK.
Mizukage Yoda
Originally posted by ares834
I'd say the novelization being line edited by Lucas himself and typically far more in line with the movie would be "more canon" than the game. Specifically since they way the game portrays the fight does contradict the movie (no padawans).
Eh, not when the book has shit like Obi-Wan and Yoda combined wouldn't have a chance in hell against Sidious.
Also the two versions can be combined fairly easily as per starwars wiki.
Nephthys
I could see that being true. Obi-Wan would hold Yoda back and he could become vulnerable in his efforts to protect him.
Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Nephthys
I could see that being true. Obi-Wan would hold Yoda back and he could become vulnerable in his efforts to protect him.
This makes sense. Their styles do not mesh well, so Obi-Wan would be a hinderence.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Stealth Moose
This makes sense. Their styles do not mesh well, so Obi-Wan would be a hinderence. Yeah, but usually, Jedi can find a way to work with it, for instance, Jedi who don't know Jar Kai are perfectly capable of skillfully using dual lightsabers at the same time. Just as Yoda and Obi-Wan could be able to adapt to eachother's style's quickly. Obi-Wan is the master of Defense, his Soresu is the best of the order if I remember correctly, I think he could hold off Sidious, especially if he was able to beat Anakin, who I think was a little below Mace. With that, Yoda jumps in, so Sidious has to worry about Yoda's HIGHEST-Level Ataru and still tries to find a way past Obi-Wan's Soresu.
Nephthys
Sidious blitzed and defeated 3 of the Orders best duelists at the time. He's not going to have problems getting through Kenobi's defense.
Stealth Moose
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Yeah, but usually, Jedi can find a way to work with it, for instance, Jedi who don't know Jar Kai are perfectly capable of skillfully using dual lightsabers at the same time.
People like Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Barriss have used dual sabers despite it not being their norm, but I wouldn't say they adapted perfectly.
Think of their styles though; Yoda is all over Sidious and requires a lot of energy expended and room to fight, whereas Obi-Wan is defensive and his offensive moves are usually rebuffed by opponents. Soresu is about turtling until an opening provides itself, whereas Ataru is "blitz them until they die". In that case, Obi-Wan being anywhere near Sidious would be a problem rather than a solution, and Obi-Wan himself is no match for the Emperor.
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