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The 2 best Jedi from the TOR era take on the 4 best Jedi from the NSW era. Neutral environment. No Battle Meditation. All combatants are at full strength.

This is the actual thread that I suggested to Astor, not the one he made.

Booooo!

Jedi win (Hoth may have possibly been one of the 4 best Jedi from the NSW, Raskta maybe even purely in sabers and especially with BM, but Farfalla and Sarro would not have been among the 4 best of the entire thousand year conflict).

Team 1 easily.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Booooo!

Jedi win (Hoth may have possibly been one of the 4 best Jedi from the NSW, Raskta maybe even purely in sabers and especially with BM, but Farfalla and Sarro would not have been among the 4 best of the entire thousand year conflict).

They're all Jedi. You need to be a bit more specific.


The TOR era kicks their asses. No-one here can stand up to the Barsen'thor's Force powers and no-one can match the Hero of Tython in combat. Barsen'thor pastes Raskta and Sarro and the Hero whoops Farfalla and Hoth.

What noteworthy dueling feats/accolades does Barsen'thor have, Neph?

Fvck all.

Erm, I think she blitzed a Rakatan war droid once? Also shes dodged lightning.

But she doesn't need it since she can stop lightsabers with her Force Shields.

She never beat anyone special in a duel?

Not in a lightsaber duel, to my knowledge. At least not in a cutscene.

She has beaten tons of people though, just presumably with the Force every time. The Consular is the class that's shown using the Force the most.

This is a pretty bad slaughterhouse. Hero's among the top dogs in the mythos; the guy beat Vitiate. He would absolutely trounce any two of the Jedi and then finish the last two fighting Barsen'thor.

She.

And Jedi orgy ensues.

Lesbian power?

I wish the Hero was canonically a she. You just effing know its going to turn out to be a white human male like every other freaking game character in this series.

Originally posted by Intrepid37
Lesbian power?

Absolutely. Force scissor.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wish the Hero was canonically a she. You just effing know its going to turn out to be a white human male like every other freaking game character in this series.

I made mine a white woman. U GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT?

None of my other chars are white though, so you fail. My smuggler is asian, my sorc a Red Sith as is my Warrior, and my consular is green.

My Knight is kind of Egyptian....ish. Human female tho.

Pic plz. For fapping materialscience.

I must say, I'm sketchy about the Barsen'thor considering she has no indication of any dueling ability, which is a vast weakness, but then again she's got some pretty ridiculous victories too.

I'm inclined to give the win to team 1, I suppose, despite this fact.

Well the Barsen'thor isn't shitty at lightsabers. SWTORE says that assuming this is a mistake, as Consulars are still very gifted swordsmen who are able to mix telekinetics into close combat. Also as I said, she is able to block lightsabers with a Force Bubble.

And she is no doubt an extremely potent combatant, said to 'embody true skill' and with others amazed and even worshipful of her combat ability. TBH the Barsen'thor has more feats and is a bit easier to argue for than even the HoT, though there is no doubt to me that the latter is the superior fighter.

I'd actually say someone who has great skill and physical feats and mediocre force powers seems far more capable, at least in common battle, than someone with little skill or physical feats, but amazing force powers.

Hm, 4 on 2 is rough, but these two can go back-to-back pretty well.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I wish the Hero was canonically a she. You just effing know its going to turn out to be a white human male like every other freaking game character in this series.

Ugh, yes.

If Tythy is at least not *one* of those three, I'll be happy. White male alien? Non-white male human? White female human? Good! Better still if it's two or, gasp, all three!

I don't get it, are they that worried about the mere possibility of the white manbaby nerds who make up the majority of SW fans being unable to project into the characters?

Blue female Twi'lek Hero of Tython ftw though.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'd actually say someone who has great skill and physical feats and mediocre force powers seems far more capable, at least in common battle, than someone with little skill or physical feats, but amazing force powers.

Vitiate?

I would disagree, since the first guy imo wouldn't even be able to engage the second guy before he gets force pwned. It would be like AotC where Anakin runs at Dooku only to get b*tchslapped into a wall.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Vitiate?

You mean, the guy who the Hero of Tython defeated on an immensely powerful Dark Side Nexus? Yeah, he's a good example.

The Hero of Tython is immensely powerful though.

Vitiate did Force pwn an entire strike team.

Nephthys, I have been informed that Knight does not defeat fully powered Vitiate but one of his parts. Is this true?

I do believe that the codex entry says that Vitiate's power has been placed within his Voice, and that the TOR Encyclopedia refers to the Voice as Vitiate.

Originally posted by Astor Ebligis
Nephthys, I have been informed that Knight does not defeat fully powered Vitiate but one of his parts. Is this true?

Its debate-able. Until we know otherwise however, it is to be assumed that it was actually Vitiate. The game and the Swtor encyclopedia refer to the person you fight as the Emperor and I don't understand why Vitiate wouldn't be personally performing his galaxy-ending ritual.

Originally posted by Nephthys
performing his galaxy-ending ritual.

Dude!

You asked. Like, if you don't want spoilers maybe don't debate in threads with the Jedi Knight in it. We could discuss the two Sith characters instead if you'd like. They could probably also defeat this team.

Either way clearly the Knight isn't all that you cracked him up to be. Such as defeating Vitiate, which is clearly arguable as you say.

Wouldn't the Knight have also had Kira, T3, CN, Treek, and HK with him as well plus the other companions (dont spoil other companions please)?

No, you can only take T3 into that fight. For reasons that I'm not sure if you'd consider spoilers.

It isn't really arguable. Its a rather irrelevant point since even if it was just his Voice, there is no real difference between himself and his Voice, which is stated to 'house the Emperors power and consciousness.'

There are other circumstances too if you'd like me to tell you about them. Basically Vitiate was very weakened, but he had a significant amount of time to recover and was on an extremely powerful Dark Side nexus while the HoT had to fight through a lot of VERY elite troops to get to him.

'house the Emperors power and consciousness.'

all or some?

Since it doesn't specify we can only assume all imo. Other quotes say:

"The Voice also wields the Emperor's awesome power and is capable of striking down any who displease him. Those who converse with the Voice are overwhelmed with dread and unshakable obediance. To converse with the Voice is to speak with the Emperor himself." - SWTORE pg. 163