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Darth Vitiate
Darth Malgus
Grandmaster Satele
Hero of Tython

vs

ROTS Sidious
ROTS Anakin
Mace Windu
Count Dooku

All out, no prep. Who takes it?

Team 2. Replacing Satele with the Barsen'thor might spice things up a bit.

Team two.

Team 2

Team 1 in a very close fight.

Team 2 in a good fight

Team 1 in close fight.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Team 2. Replacing Satele with the Barsen'thor might spice things up a bit.

Lets see:

Malgus>Anakin
HoT>Windu
Barsenthor>Dooku

While the Emperors go all out at each other, Sidious' companions die and he finds himself surrounded. Team 1 ends up the victor.

Lol @ Barsen being above Dooku

Malgus isn't above Anakin either, Windu vs. HoT is debatable though.

Vitiate would get oneshot by Palpatine without a nexus to defend himself with.

Originally posted by carthage
Lol @ Barsen being above Dooku

Malgus isn't above Anakin either, Windu vs. HoT is debatable though.

Vitiate would get oneshot by Palpatine without a nexus to defend himself with.

Im not surprised by this reaction since you consider Dooku top 5 sith

I think Malgus vs Anakin is close but his force powers are superior to Anakin.

HoT takes Windu kid. Deal with it.

LMAO @ Vitiate-Sidious. You're never gonna grow up are you?

Anakin's superior to Malgus in terms of feats, I don't really care about your personal opinion.




And you're never going to accept the fact that Palpatine can kill Vitiate before he reacts.

Originally posted by carthage
Anakin's superior to Malgus in terms of feats, I don't really care about your personal opinion.




And you're never going to accept the fact that Palpatine can kill Vitiate before he reacts.

Its not my personal opinion. Force wise, Malgus has the upper hand due to accomplishments.



LOL "fact"

Dooku vs Baresnthor is an interesting match, though this topic instead specifies Satele--Who Dooku could handle in the Force and overwhelm in a duel.

I disagree on the topic of Anakin and Malgus--Anakin is just as strong or stronger than Malgus is, and he's faster, more skilled, and arguably more powerful as well. Malgus does have the advantage of cybernetically enhanced endurance, but I'm not convinced that will really turn the tables for a majority.

Mace vs HoT is also certainly debatable. Each defeated an overwhelmingly powerful opponent because of specific circumstances. That aside, feat-to-feat there is definitely room for debate.

And of course, Sidious eclipses Vitiate, so if needed he can carry his team to victory.

Team TOR.

Originally posted by Sinious
Lets see:

Malgus>Anakin
HoT>Windu

Agreed.

Originally posted by Sinious
Barsenthor>Dooku

Not sure about that, to be honest...

Originally posted by Sinious
Lets see:

Malgus>Anakin
HoT>Windu
Barsenthor>Dooku

While the Emperors go all out at each other, Sidious' companions die and he finds himself surrounded. Team 1 ends up the victor.

Team 2 but it's very close. I think ROTS Sidious can pull off a win but he won't be in any condition to fight after facing Vitiate. Anakin would beat Malgus it'd be similar with Sidious or heck he can actually go down with Malgus. I think Mace can beat Satele, and Barsen'thor can beat Dooku. Then it comes down to Barsen'thor vs. Mace, in which I think Mace can pull off a win if Anakin.

Malgus would beat Anakin. His lightning and TK is too much for him to handle.

Lightning can be absorbed by a saber, and Anakin has destroyed droids with his bare hands, smashed Ventress hard enough to crack rock, and hit Dooku with enough force to be compared to a meteor strike. ROTS Anakin is also a couple of speed tiers above Malgus, and he is just as strong

How many times do I have to tell you that lightsabers can also be overloaded by lightning, which Malgus has actually done multiple times, before you get it through your thick head?

Oh, I never heard of the meteor strike feat, where is it from?

RotS and it wasn't as serious comparison. A metaphorical description akin of someone being "as fast as lightning" or other hyperbolic phrases.

Originally posted by The Merchant
Oh, I never heard of the meteor strike feat, where is it from?

It's in RotS, there's also one point where Anakin's blows bend Kenobi's bones. Note that Kenobi himself can bend durasteel plating like a cheap spoon, it's a pretty good feat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
How many times do I have to tell you that lightsabers can also be overloaded by lightning, which Malgus has actually done multiple times, before you get it through your thick head?

And who cares? Nothing in Malgus's lightning shows that it can overpower Anakins saber. Lightning never dictates the course of a duel compared to skill, in which case Anakin has superior feats in that regard.

Other than that Malgus has used it to overpower two powerful Jedi and win duels, you mean. facepalm2

Anakin hasn't displayed the ability to block lightning of Malgus' power. He gets cooked.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Other than that Malgus has used it to overpower two powerful Jedi and win duels, you mean. facepalm2

Anakin hasn't displayed the ability to block lightning of Malgus' power. He gets cooked.

It overpowering fodder Jedi isn't proof that it can do the same to a superior fighter like Anakin. And again you're ignoring the fact Anakin is faster, more skilled, and would be pounding Malgus as hard as he did Dooku if they were actually fighting.

Aryn and Zabrak dude (And Adraas now that I think of it) aren't fodder and Anakin's skill as a fighter is pointless to mention with regards to his ability to block lightning.

Originally posted by Nalaniel
Not sure about that, to be honest...

Its a close one.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Dooku vs Baresnthor is an interesting match, though this topic instead specifies Satele--Who Dooku could handle in the Force and overwhelm in a duel.

I disagree on the topic of Anakin and Malgus--Anakin is just as strong or stronger than Malgus is, and he's faster, more skilled, and arguably more powerful as well. Malgus does have the advantage of cybernetically enhanced endurance, but I'm not convinced that will really turn the tables for a majority.

Mace vs HoT is also certainly debatable. Each defeated an overwhelmingly powerful opponent because of specific circumstances. That aside, feat-to-feat there is definitely room for debate.

And of course, Sidious eclipses Vitiate, so if needed he can carry his team to victory.

Satele won't go down so easily. Dooku would be exhausted and perhaps wounded after that confrontation.

I personally place Malgus between ROTS Anakin and ROTJ Vader which means I think its a really close fight but like I said before, Malgus' force offense is very destructive and his tanking capabilities determine his power. I don't see Anakin breaking his defenses while enduring Malgus' TK and lightning.

I agree on HoT vs Windu as you've summarized the situation well. HoT is the most powerful jedi up to his era and Mace's performance against other characters don't help him here. HoT on the other hand has performed excellently against other very powerful beings as well.

Nobody is taking Vitiate down without working for it. This is ROTS Sidious and while he has a major advantage in sabers, I don't see him taking Vitiate down in the force. Vitiate can very well hold his ground against him.

With Satele, its a really close fight and team 2 can manage to win perhaps. I still think TOR has the upper hand even though its really close.

Ridiculous argument. Malgus has never blocked high caliber lightning on-screen, so Plagueis or Bane would thus one shot him as well.

I had originally made it Barsen'thor but changed my mind. I didn't think Grandmaster Satele would be treated as fodder in this matchup, even if she is technically "the weakest."

She's not fodder, but she is the weakest link of the TOR team.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Ridiculous argument. Malgus has never blocked high caliber lightning on-screen, so Plagueis or Bane would thus one shot him as well.

Well I'm not sure I'd say he'd be one-shot. Though Malgus has demonstrated that his ability to block lightning is somewhat sub-par for how powerful he is, when he couldn't fully contain Adraas' lightning into his lightsaber and got his hands burnt despite his significant power advantage. A lightning storm from Bane likely would overpower him and if he followed up with a sustained attack Malgus likely wouldn't last very long. Like when Vitiate overpowered Revan. He wasn't killed immediately, but he was overpowered and had Vitiate continued the attack he would have eventually been overcome completely.

But with Anakin, I'm also not saying he'd be one-shot (although since Aryn was and her feats of blocking lightning are superior to Anakins so his chances are slim). He can maybe partially block the attack. But he wouldn't last very long afterwards, since it would undoubtedly hurt him a lot. Malgus' lightning has blown through 3 lightsaber defenses of powerful opponents, killed multiple Jedi in a single burst and brought the Strike team to its knees. Anakin isn't going to be able to block that kind of power.

Also Plagueis doesn't have high caliber lightning.

Originally posted by Trocity
I had originally made it Barsen'thor but changed my mind. I didn't think Grandmaster Satele would be treated as fodder in this matchup, even if she is technically "the weakest."

Personally I think Anakin is the weakest. But I undervalue Anakin more than others.

Malgus overloaded sabers like how Sidious demonstrated in Dark Empire?

Different.