Plo Koon and Shaak Ti(TCW) Vs Count Dooku(RotS)
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Fated Xtasy
Two highly powerful and talented Jedi masters Vs the dark lord Tyranus.
Lightsabers.
Force Powers.
All-out.
Can team prevail? or will Dooku overcome the odds?
Trocity
Kenobi and Anakin are both better than either of team 1, just in my opinion, and he handles them. Dooku wins.
Q99
Originally posted by Trocity
Kenobi and Anakin are both better than either of team 1, just in my opinion, and he handles them.
Eh, Anakin was able to do really well in solo fights with Dooku by the end.
It's pretty odd that Kenobi was taken out so easily in RotS, it's a fairly low showing compared to how he performs in that timeframe in general (disarm Opress, demolish Grievous, defeat Anakin).
Emperordmb
Kenobi and Skywalker underperform as a team in TCW, and that really bugs me, seeing as they should in theory be the dream team, but in practice in TCW, it usually doesn't work that way.
chilled monkey
Originally posted by Q99
It's pretty odd that Kenobi was taken out so easily in RotS, it's a fairly low showing compared to how he performs in that timeframe in general (disarm Opress, demolish Grievous, defeat Anakin).
Beg your pardon but no, it's not really odd at all. Kenobi was overwhelmed by Dooku's Force abilities, a consistent weakness he's displayed.
Antoine Bandele on Youtube came up with a theory I agree with that he describes here (the part I'm referring to is 13:46-15:20):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xRF2uWTP-A&list=PLDFq63aBi3_x_hhCNeHiT0xbfWUGpXl0J&index=8
Kenobi is an amazing duellist, no question, but let's not forget every fight is shaped by circumstances.
* Disarm Opress- Kenobi had the advantage of a confined environment that limited his foes mobility as they kept getting in each others way. Plus, for all Opress's power he didn't have Dooku's skill and precision with the Force.
* Grievous was beaten because Kenobi could withstand his speed and power of his attacks. Plus Grievous couldn't use the Force (see above)
* Against Anakin there were a ton of factors including Anakin's mental/emotional state (despite what some people say, mental state has a huge effect upon one's abilities) and environmental hazards.
Personally I'd say that the duo have a very good chance of winning.
Q99
Point.
On that note, neither Plo nor Shaak have been shown to have that weakness. Plo's one of the CW era Jedi most known for using the force, even.
Nephthys
Originally posted by Trocity
Kenobi and Anakin are both better than either of team 1, just in my opinion, and he handles them. Dooku wins.
Outside of AotC, Dooku never actually beats the Anakin and Kenobi team though. He always runs away.
Arhael
Originally posted by Q99
It's pretty odd that Kenobi was taken out so easily in RotS, it's a fairly low showing compared to how he performs in that timeframe in general (disarm Opress, demolish Grievous, defeat Anakin).
It's actually not. Kenobi is consistently shown to have bad Force attacks anticipation. His Force defense is actually great like casually blocking Dooku's lightning or Anakin's TK but he gets caught off guard with Force attacks rather easily, which both Dooku and Maul exploited well.
Also, Kenobi is arguably the worst team mate. Because he specializes in defensive fighting his offensive moves are never effective and often cause him to do silly mistakes. Like when he attacked Ventress and got drop kicked. When Maul provoked him into offensive fighting, it was total embarrassment. Or when he bull-rushed Grievous and got kicked in the chest straight away. Or when he attacked Dooku and got hip thrown and then kicked.
Kenobi consistently performs well only when he goes full defense.
Q99
Hah, all good points

Nephthys
Originally posted by Arhael
It's actually not. Kenobi is consistently shown to have bad Force attacks anticipation. His Force defense is actually great like casually blocking Dooku's lightning or Anakin's TK but he gets caught off guard with Force attacks rather easily, which both Dooku and Maul exploited well.
Also, Kenobi is arguably the worst team mate. Because he specializes in defensive fighting his offensive moves are never effective and often cause him to do silly mistakes. Like when he attacked Ventress and got drop kicked. When Maul provoked him into offensive fighting, it was total embarrassment. Or when he bull-rushed Grievous and got kicked in the chest straight away. Or when he attacked Dooku and got hip thrown and then kicked.
Kenobi consistently performs well only when he goes full defense.
Kenobi does say in the Jedi Path that he finds it hard to wield the Force in combat.
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