Vitiate and Talzin vs Sidious and Dooku (Force only)
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red8
The Son of Dathomir battle except with Vitiate instead of Maul.
Vitiate gets a dark side nexus amp (so we can avoid the "Vitiate has no off-nexus feats" crap (since that makes these debates boring)).
Emperordmb
Team one. With Vitiate instead of Maul, Dooku is out of his league.
And I of course take this to mean we take Vitiate's feats at face value, and not disregard them with the "Nexus amplifies power X10" bullshit argument?
Sinious
Dooku dies pretty fast and Sidious gets overwhelmed by the duo.
All out would make this a less boring fight.
NewGuy01
So Vitiate gets an amp and no one else does? That's a little unfair.
Team 1.
red8
Just to clarify, I gave Vitiate the Nexus amp because people have stated on this board that even with the amp, an unamped Sidious has better feats and accolades.
And some people go as far as saying Talzin > Vitiate, which to me is ridiculous.
The purpose of the amp is not to make this a spite thread, but rather, to give Vitiate a better shot against Sidious.
The reason I made it pure force, is so there is no "Sidious SLAUTERHOUSE blitzes everyones11!!!"
If we didn't have people throwing around that type of logic, I feel I could do an all out instead of pure force.
Emperordmb
Originally posted by Trocity
Dooku solos.
Prior to SOD, I wouldn't be all too surprised if some people actually held that opinion.
SIDIOUS 66
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Team one. With Vitiate instead of Maul, Dooku is out of his league.
And I of course take this to mean we take Vitiate's feats at face value, and not disregard them with the "Nexus amplifies power X10" bullshit argument?
You told me that the idea of Vitiate easily taking Dooku out was stupid. What do you mean out of his league?
Not arguing; just asking.
Emperordmb
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You told me that the idea of Vitiate easily taking Dooku out was stupid. What do you mean out of his league?
Not arguing; just asking.
I'm pretty sure I said Vitiate ragdolling Dooku was unlikely, or something along those lines. Just because Dooku isn't ragdolled doesn't make him not outclassed as a force wielder. Besides, I'm pretty sure that's something I said a month or two ago.
Emperordmb
Originally posted by NewGuy01
The amusement over the effort you put in to make this post seem sophisticated actually distracts from your point, though it was nonetheless received.
Twas actually a Matrix reference.
carthage
Lol @ Emperor not responding to Sasuke's second point and changing the subject to avoid responding to his thoughts
Emperordmb
I don't really feel like clicking the link to read that post.
SIDIOUS 66
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I'm pretty sure I said Vitiate ragdolling Dooku was unlikely, or something along those lines. Just because Dooku isn't ragdolled doesn't make him not outclassed as a force wielder. Besides, I'm pretty sure that's something I said a month or two ago.
I assume you're aware of most of Dooku's most impressive feats. Let's say he is placed on a nexus, you don't think it would do him any good? You think his power would stay the same, despite it increasing on Vjun, a less powerful nexus than the one Vitiate is on?
Or lets make this simpler, how far above Dooku would you place Vitiate, and based on what? Again, just asking.
I place Vitiate above Dooku even on neutral ground, but I have my reasons. I just want to know yours.
SIDIOUS 66
Originally posted by carthage
Lol @ Emperor not responding to Sasuke's second point and changing the subject to avoid responding to his thoughts
There, Emperor. You didn't have to click anything.
Fated Xtasy
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
There, Emperor. You didn't have to click anything.
Aw, i knew your were a nice guy deep inside
Also. Team one takes it. Though, i'm entirely how dooku would fair. interesting match up red8

Nalaniel
Team 1. Dooku is out of his league.
The_Tempest
Team 1. Dooku's fighting outside his weight class, here. {No that doesn't mean Dooku is weak by any stretch of the imagination, just that his opponents are just that good.}
Skybreaker
Which Sidious are we talking about? DE Palpatine could solo.
red8
Originally posted by Skybreaker
Which Sidious are we talking about? DE Palpatine could solo.
First post says this is the SoD battle, so SoD Sidious.
Skybreaker
Originally posted by red8
First post says this is the SoD battle, so SoD Sidious.
Ah, my mistake.
So, I understand Talzin can teleport and everything, but how is she going to survive Palpatine exactly? I'd imagine this is quickly going to reduce into a 1 vs. 1.
red8
I would imagine Team 1's strategy would be for Talzin to tank Sidious' lightning for as long as she can hold out and Vitiate would try to overwhelm Sidious and Dooku with his own lightning or try to prepare one of his cheap rituals.
I would imagine Team 2's strategy would mainly depend on Sidious powering through Talzin and Vitiate with his lightning. Dooku would have to do whatever he could to keep Vitiate busy.
If Dooku can stay alive long enough, I think Sidious could kill Talzin and then kill Vitiate. But I think more often than not, Vitiate would overwhelm Dooku more quickly than Sidious could overwhelm Talzin.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Team 1. Dooku's fighting outside his weight class, here. {No that doesn't mean Dooku is weak by any stretch of the imagination, just that his opponents are just that good.}
carthage
Team 2.
Sidious can ragdoll Vitiate due to being naturally more powerful, and this all while Dooku gets destroyed by Talzin or at least can bring up barriers to defend himself.
Talzin of course loses to the Emperor
Selenial
I voted team one but I'm still not sure.
Talzin would eat Dooku for breakfast, but then again so would Sidious to her if she had spent all her power battling Dooku.
Instead I believe this would play exactly like the SOD battle, Talzin just holding Sidious off via a Lightning stalemate.
Vitiate might take Dooku out quickly and then they gang up.
Alternatively Talzin holds off both Sidious and Dooku and allows vitiate to gather power for a FLS of similarly ridonculous feat.
Or Talzin just drains Dooku and throws him off like a carcass. Or she drains him and Vitiate mind dominates his weak state to fight with them and it becomes a massacre.
So many outcomes...
carthage
Talzin can beat Dooku via the force, but he has a better chance of surviving/would die a lot slower than Vitiate vs Sidious.
Emperordmb
Nah, Dooku's the most out of his league here.
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