Jace Malcom vs. Count Dooku

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The Merchant
Who wins?

ILS
Jace Malcom wins with his combat knife

carthage
Jace's armor was resistant to Malgus's FL so he is likely resistant to the force, Dooku is an old man and Malcom was able to tackle Malgus. If Malcom can connect with Dooku via a tackle he can end the fight outright, but if Dooku can move faster than him (which is weird because he's old)- he might have a chance. Dooku's lightning isn't strong enough to penetrate his armor, so using the force is out of the question.

Malcom I'd wager 6-10

ILS
Jace also has his explosion gun and I don't remember Dooku blocking explosions. Dooku gets exploded or stabbed.

Zenwolf
I'm rather calling Jace surviving Malgus' Lighting to be complete BS and more due to plot than anything else, considering said Lighting has ripped through defenses of Jedi and have fried their entire bodies, these guys being above troopers having superhuman stats.

Unless Malgus was really and I mean really holding back his Force Lighting, Jace shouldn't have survived much less move any part of his body.

Any rate, Dooku wins this...yeah sorry, not one for joking really.

ILS
Who's joking? What defence has Dooku realistically got against Malcom's heavy firepower that even Malgus couldn't deflect indefinitely? And there's no proof that Malgus was holding back, Jace has some nice armor and it's not uncommon for regular beings to pull off superhuman feats in SW.

I say Malcom fries Dooku in all honesty.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
Who's joking? What defence has Dooku realistically got against Malcom's heavy firepower that even Malgus couldn't deflect indefinitely? And there's no proof that Malgus was holding back, Jace has some nice armor and it's not uncommon for regular beings to pull off superhuman feats in SW.

I say Malcom fries Dooku in all honesty.

It's just so....ehhh....plus Jace's weapon wasn't all that spammy. He was able to fire off 3 shots, 2 of which were deflected and the 3rd hit, it's not like Dooku can't move to avoid those shots either, or just speedblitz Jace before he could react.

To be honest, Malgus should have been able to deflect the 3rd, there was plenty of time to do so really.

That and Jace was still KO'd by Malgus anyway, so even if he could withstand Dooku's lighting, it wouldn't be forever.

Which brings up, why wasn't he just killed...they had some elaborate death thing but everyone else? Noo they just straight up kill...dat plot shenanigans.

ILS
Originally posted by Zenwolf
It's just so....ehhh....plus Jace's weapon wasn't all that spammy. He was able to fire off 3 shots, 2 of which were deflected and the 3rd hit, it's not like Dooku can't move to avoid those shots either, or just speedblitz Jace before he could react.

To be honest, Malgus should have been able to deflect the 3rd, there was plenty of time to do so really.

That and Jace was still KO'd by Malgus anyway, so even if he could withstand Dooku's lighting, it wouldn't be forever.

Which brings up, why wasn't he just killed...they had some elaborate death thing but everyone else? Noo they just straight up kill...dat plot shenanigans. If he kept firing after three he could definitely penetrate Dooku's guard. Dooku hasn't got deflection feats to suggest he can survive so many of those attacks.

I dunno, Malgus is pretty fast and he couldn't avoid them by moving, and Dooku hasn't really got a penchant for speedblitzing, and he wouldn't get a chance to with Jace unloading on him. Dooku's travel speed isn't the greatest either.

I think he couldn't deflect the third hit because of how powerful the gun was, not because he couldn't react.

He was KO'd because of PIS. Why would Jace try and charge Malgus with his knife if he could just keep blasting him? Makes no sense.

I can agree that Dooku's TK could take out Malcom but it's a question of whether or not Jace could just blast through Dooku's guard before that becomes a factor. Without PIS Jace would have blasted Malgus into at least incapacitation.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by ILS
If he kept firing after three he could definitely penetrate Dooku's guard. Dooku hasn't got deflection feats to suggest he can survive so many of those attacks.

I dunno, Malgus is pretty fast and he couldn't avoid them by moving, and Dooku hasn't really got a penchant for speedblitzing, and he wouldn't get a chance to with Jace unloading on him. Dooku's travel speed isn't the greatest either.

/Sighs at Swords..

ILS
Originally posted by Zenwolf
/Sighs at Swords.. I'm being serious.

carthage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey31zwy9Kyo&list=UUm7imB9QanTySN-Lfae0SIQ

ILS
I was watching that earlier lol

carthage
Do you think you could take Jensaarai in a fight?

ILS
I think it would be a well contested struggle with blood lost on both sides.

carthage
Jensaarai trashing Savage Opress

ILS
I think Savage would win a fight against Jensaarai, maybe.

carthage
He is too much of a dumb brute, and if Grievous killed Jensaarai it would be more dignified.

ILS
Yeah true. Savage is better off getting some Zabrak on Zabrak action with Eeth Koth or Agen Kolar.

carthage
laughing out loud

You say that as I'm seriously trying to win Kolar's figure on ebay, it must be a sign!

ILS
LOL dude are you really bidding for an Agen Kolar action figure right now?

carthage
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*****ing shipping is expensive

ILS
So you're going to pay like, 2 dollars at most for an Agen Kolar action figure but 28 f*cking dollars for shipping?

ILS
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTYwMFgxMjAw/z/BRMAAOSwiCRUgSpl/$_57.JPG

WHY

carthage
Its his budding Zabrak horns, they're so Kawaiii <33333333333333333.

He will be right at home with all of the Sith on top of my dresser.

And its 2.50 for shipping, goodsir

ILS
Originally posted by carthage
And its 2.50 for shipping, goodsir Not where I'm from.. damn, I'm gonna have to pay so much money for my B-team action figure collection sad

carthage
Order them from Asia, they come cheaply and shipping might not be so much IDK.

I know how much you want your own Kolar figure, but you'll have to wait.

ILS
You should make a legit Agen Kolar respect thread.

carthage
I haven't read the Republic comics yet, and most of what has been said about him is common knowledge at this point.

Still going through Dark times era stuff.

ILS
Not everyone is aware of his telepathic prowess or his jaw-dislocating martial arts kicks.

How are those comics?

carthage
Dark times was ok, too little focus on Vader and more focusing on unimportant characters like Kruhk etc. Kruhk's story arc was pretty cool though as was Dass Jenir, but I wanted to read more about Vader's exploits.

ILS
Kruhk sucks, dunno if I'll read those comics.

carthage
He does suck, but him defending Padwans and setting up a Jedi enclave was an interesting story.

He is weak as hell though

ILS
Jensaarai thinks Warb Null can defeat Savage Opress and that Kruhk would be a better match up for the Dark Jedi.

All hail Jensaarai.

carthage
Still watching the video.

Yeah, that was an incredibly bad matchup. Opress would smash him like a claypot

ILS
Jensaarai was probably watching Adi Gallia die in TCW like:

It'd be SO much more DIGNIFIED if Warb Null was the one killing her. GOD DAMNIT LUCAS GIVE THE NERD RAGE RANTER WHAT HE DESERVES!

The Merchant
Evan Nova is kind of attractive lol...

ILS
What Reti4 said in the comments of the video:

What I said just now:

carthage
They act as if Warb Null wasn't anything but fodder in the TOTJ comics, granted he held off Oss Willum and Cay with ease, but a capable fighter should be able to beat just armor lol.

Jensaarai constantly trashes Savage with subjective assessments, in spite of the fact he has beaten guys that are ironically above Null

Still watching the video btw

The Merchant
Yeah the Warb Null video was pretty dumb, they really don't go by feats and just go by random stuff that don't amount to anything in a fight and some accolades. Reminds me of some people.

ILS
Originally posted by carthage
Jensaarai constantly trashes Savage with subjective assessments, in spite of the fact he has beaten guys that are ironically above Null His bias is disgusting and it makes Savage cry in the afterlife.

The Merchant
I don't really watch much of Jensaraai, what is he bias for?

ILS
Random obscure characters like Warb Null, K'Kruhk, Tholme ect, and he seems to like TOR and rates PT quite lowly.

He absolutely detests TCW and Savage Opress.

I dunno what goes through his brain in all honesty.

carthage
He'd get along just fine here.

ILS
Maybe he is Revanchiste

carthage
Revanchiste has a valid excuse in not having English as a first language, Jensaarai just trashes characters because he doesn't like TCW and goes off tangents.

ILS
I bet behind the french Revanchiste is the Silver of KMC.

I might make a youtube video where I spend 15 minutes discussing the merits and shortcomings of the two characters lightsaber hilts. Would that be fun to watch do you think?

carthage
I think it would be better if you make a completely novel analysis Kolar's style based off of the few panels he's on, give it additional completely subjective descriptions of his lightsaber forms, and then completely ignore his feats only to add your own spicy analysis!

We have another Jensaarai in the making, you can even say Plagueis sucks at lightsaber combat like Evanova lmao

ILS
I'm going to do it. It's happening. I'm going to make a start today.

carthage
Best of luck to you youngman, be sure to post the video when its done

The Merchant
I'm excited ILS :3

carthage
He only lives to please you thumb up

The Merchant
Doesn't everyone?

carthage
Not others here. No. Only him and he was also planning other videos too, but I'll let him speak for himself when the time comes for him to reveal his works of art.

ILS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB7JdUjTQrM

carthage
I thought that was your video, get on that you lazy son of a **********

carthage
Christ that guy goes well into an analysis of the box Kolar is in, he's like HERE IS THE STILL FROM REVENGE OF THE SITH, and random droid part XX314, here is Kolar wielding a blue lightsaber as opposed to a green one.

I know Kolar is the greatest, most powerful, and sexiest Zabrak ever produced by the Jedi over but talk about information overload. I am still winning that figure too

ILS
LOL I can't stop laughing at this video. This guy is putting way too much effort into an Agen Kolar action figure review. Holy shit.

carthage
Its sad that Kolar has become such a meme here. Kolar has become the Jedi version of Darth Bane and Darth Bandon. Its sad and it needs to stop there must be a movement to make Kolar's power known.

And yeah that guy is a huge Kolar fan, but still not cool enough to get Kolar at a discount price like me!

DARTH POWER
Does Jace have strength feats? If so he Stomps. Dooku had a MAJOR WEAKNESS to Kinetic Power.

In fact the whole purpose of Anakin defeating Dooku in ROTS was to highlight the weakness of Makashi to Djem So.

ILS
Kolar being a meme greatly detriments Vos, which is mainly why I try to show the masses Kolar's supremacy. The movement will begin with my video.

I think it's disgusting that they didn't include a robe for the figures though. Kolar had a robe in the movie so where the f*ck is his robe as an action figure? It's on the front of the box for crying out loud. Damn you hasbro.

carthage
People just cant accept that Kolar is that good, I mean Mace selected him first, wanked him, and even knew those two could take Sidious on their own. He took it easy on Vos, though it was a low showing of him almost being decapitated by his blade. Kolar doesn't need his robes to kick ass, he could fight naked and kick ass with his budding horns

ILS
Getting wank from Mace Windu makes you pretty special to be honest. Although getting wank from Mace only matters if you're Depa Billaba smokin'

Budding horns.. are you sure they're budding? Maybe he shaves them for the aesthetic.

carthage
http://members.shaw.ca/david.p.z.888/star_wars/pics/agen_kolar.jpg

You might be right about him shaving, as the second one in the middle is clearly clipped. He may do this for some arcane Zabrak mating ritual, though due to the Jedi order's principle of non-attachment he only trimmed them in observance of his heritage. He would like he had bad acne like Evanova if he didn't trim them, god bless him for considering his appearance.

ILS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX_OBLy6V3o&list=UUYE5iEJu0R6A6Y-Rf5umDEA

ILS
Originally posted by carthage
He would like he had bad acne like Evanova if he didn't trim them, god bless him for considering his appearance. LMFAO

carthage
This dude bought an entire calendar worth of mini legos, and here I am just collecting random figures out of the box. This guy is a badass, I love you Moviemike. More like magic Mike

http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/magic-mike-2-release-date.jpg

ILS
FilmakerMike is our Sith'ari. May the legos be with us.

carthage
He seems like a cool guy, his review of the Agen Kolar figure made me subscribe to him.

ILS
He's very perceptive, he really takes a closer look at those boxes.

carthage
It takes a certain kind of man to look at the qualities of scans on boxes, the fact he can cram his analyses into three minute increments makes him ok in my book.

ILS
As far as action figure reviewers go he is definitely solid I will say that much. He doesn't miss a beat whether it be a lightsaber blade colour, small droid parts, or even those limited edition box stickers. I want to be like him when I grow up to review action figures and legos.

carthage
There is nothing wrong with figures, legos might be a bit much especially Holiday packed ones that correspond to the month of December

ILS
I used to love figures but I don't have it in me to collect them again.

Those advent legos though... the way he lights up at all of their little click-together parts.

carthage
I'm building up a small collection. I just won Lumiya, 6 inch Black series of Vader, Darth Plagueis, and am currently trying to win Darth Malak, Durge, Agen Kolar. Darth Krayt, Darth Revan, and a Shadow guard.

Then I should be done, unless another 00ber kewl Sith shows up and I drain my check like a crack addict.

ILS
Malgus doesn't have one?

ILS
A weird revelation struck me recently.

Malgus is slightly taller than Savage Opress. Which makes him 7 foot tall. Never realized he was that big.

carthage
Originally posted by ILS
Malgus doesn't have one?

I got his first edition, there is a cheaper one from the black series. He's hanging on my wall next to TPM Sidious, TPM Maul, Vader, Nihilus, Boba, and DE Sidious and Talzin. I need an Opress one but all of the ones the TCW made he only has his axe.

ILS
Originally posted by carthage
I got his first edition, there is a cheaper one from the black series. He's hanging on my wall next to TPM Sidious, TPM Maul, Vader, Nihilus, Boba, and DE Sidious and Talzin. I need an Opress one but all of the ones the TCW made he only has his axe. Huh, nice man. I want a similar collection but not figures, I'd probably try and set up some custom posters around my room.

Nephthys
Originally posted by Zenwolf
I'm rather calling Jace surviving Malgus' Lighting to be complete BS and more due to plot than anything else, considering said Lighting has ripped through defenses of Jedi and have fried their entire bodies, these guys being above troopers having superhuman stats.

Unless Malgus was really and I mean really holding back his Force Lighting, Jace shouldn't have survived much less move any part of his body.

Any rate, Dooku wins this...yeah sorry, not one for joking really.

Jace's armor was insulated and extremely strong.

DarthAnt66
My $150 Darth Revan action figure is probably my most prized toy collectible.

Zenwolf
Originally posted by Nephthys
Jace's armor was insulated and extremely strong.

Says where?

Although fine, I guess i'll accept that he can...tank Force Lighting....<< but still if Dooku hits him with it, he's not gonna be able to move much anyway and he then could just use TK if that happens to finish him.

As far as Jace's weapon is concerned, I still don't think it'll be enough. The shots fired weren't particularly fast enough to where they couldn't be avoided or deflected.

Plus, I doubt Dooku is just gonna stand there like Malgus did, he doesn't have armor to protect him, so why would he?

Nephthys
The Swtor encyclopedia.

Zenwolf
Of course the SWTOR Encylopedia...why did I even question that? They have some uber/impenetrable weapons and armor and droids...

Sorry, I'm just a little annoyed with BW pulling out all kinds of things that just seem to make the later eras pointless.

Nephthys
I know right? Shae Vizla can fly around on her rocketpack for ages and the BH flamerthrowers can fill entire rooms and overwhelm Jedi defenses. Make's Boba Fetts stuff look like chump change. Not to mention portable shield generators capable of withstanding lightsabers and heavy weapons fire and perfect holographic disguises.

|King Joker|
Originally posted by The Merchant
Evan Nova is kind of attractive lol... wut

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