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This was basically my inspiration for the earlier "ANH Vader vs SoD Maul vs Jedi Dooku" thread earlier, but a decisive winner here is still unclear to me. What do you guys think?

Hmm, I really wanna say HoT. But Starkiller is incredibly strong too. Dooku is also a highly skilled duelist too. This one is very hard.

Hero is a nonissue, he is only slightly more skilled than Starkiller. Starkiller is more powerful than either, and can likely ragdoll or take out Hero via the force. Dooku can handle either in a saber duel with little difficulty, but can also be taken out by Starkiller

I'm not sure

Starkiller's Force power is absolutely colossal in comparison to his opponents. As long as he doesn't try to duel them for too long he wins solidly.

He can handle Hero in a duel (he is only slightly inferior in skill), Hero is just as unspectacular as a duelist as Starkiller. Dooku should take sabers but I doubt he could handle his force abilities

I don't think HoT is quite that bad. He's probably above Shaak Ti or just as good as her as a duelist.

I see nothing elevating him above Mundi or Plo personally. Angral and Scourge are unimpressive duelists.

Neither do I, hence why I said Shaak tier :P

Originally posted by ILS
Starkiller's Force power is absolutely colossal in comparison to his opponents. As long as he doesn't try to duel them for too long he wins solidly.

HoT is at least similar in level of power to him.

Dooku is pretty outclassed though.

lol.

But his disintegration/barrier feat is beyond anything shown by the Hero by a long shot.

Starkillers TK feats are another entire level from Hero, ragdolling a weakened Vitiate and collapsing tunnels arent as impressive as disintegrating half of a ship, pulling down a ship, or blowing holes through a Corsair cruiser.

Hero cant compete with that level of power, not even close

It's true, Neph.

There's no use in fighting it.

Marek's feats are exaggerated and overblown. And theres more to power than raw displays of it. The HoT resisted a darkside god in it's heart of power.

It's your opinion only that they're "overblown", obviously this isnt a valid argument that Hero > or is equal to Starkiller

Hero of Tython=Starkiller>Jedi Dooku.

Jedi Dooku iz well... A golden Era Jedi !!! XD No uze of the force....

Originally posted by Nephthys
Marek's feats are exaggerated and overblown. The HoT resisted a darkside god in it's heart of power.

Okay, okay.


Vitiate's feats are overblown.

I just realized this is Jedi Dooku, he loses to Starkiller due to power.

Starkiller wins

Starkiller struggled against ANH Vader. His Force powers aren't enough to defeat Dooku or Hero, he might just get a small adge at best.
In sabers Dooku can possibly solo them both.
In all-out Dooku takes this with hight diff.

@mcp

What is the big difference between ANH Vader and RotJ ? Let me tell you, there is none.

I heard, possibly from Lord Stark, that ROTJ Vader was clearly above ANH's. I don't remember a sources though.

If he wasn't, then it means, that Vader was below Count Dooku, Mace Windu, Darth Maul and Anakin Skywalker. Perhaps even below Obi-Wan Kenobi.

As a duelist ? Of course. He was worse duelist than Anakin Skywalker. Means he is also inferior to prime Kenobi, If not, there is no point in calling him ''shadow of his former self.'' Or Lucas's statement of seeing prime Jedi in action.

But he also became much more powerful in the Force than Anakin ever was.

And still, he lost to Maul. His TK level wasn't even near to that of Yoda or Sidious. He couldn't everhelm TPM Maul with his Force powers, and ROTS Anakin is equal or posssibly better in tanking Forc attacks then TPM Maul.

Originally posted by McP
And still, he lost to Maul. His TK level wasn't even near to that of Yoda or Sidious. He couldn't everhelm TPM Maul with his Force powers, and ROTS Anakin is equal or posssibly better in tanking Forc attacks then TPM Maul.

Nah he is not, he stalemated with Obi-Wan in force contest, he get hit by force wave from Savage Opress (just like Obi-Wan), he get force push from Barriss Offee who is nearly average in the order, he get force choke from Ventress (just like Obi-Wan), he also get stomped by Dooku with the force twice.

Vader wouldn't get none of this attacks or he wouldn't stalemate with Kenobi.

Originally posted by Marco1907
@mcp

What is the big difference between ANH Vader and RotJ ? Let me tell you, there is none.

There iz a zentimental one....

Let's change this to normal Marek, then.

Clone!Marek.

There iz 4 kind of approach in term of light zaber fighthing ztyle
Form I/VII approach :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuX...etailpage#t=683
Form II appraoch :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=...etailpage#t=158
Kenobi and many golden era Jedi approach ---> the application of the zame method again and again.. Method leading to he victory, a very conziztent ztyle.
Exar Kun/Grievouz approach....


We have all kind of approach here.... Malek iz approach 1/3/4 (even if he have conziztant ztyle) Dooku 2/3. Heroe 1/3.

Marek still rapes the Zero of Tython with the force