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This is RotS Sidious. Plagueis and Tenebrous are at their peak.

They get full power and health restored after each battle.

All other combatants are also at their peak, unless specified otherwise.

No amp/prep time is given.

Neutral setting.

1. TFU Shaak Ti, Savage, Satele, HoT and Kyle Katarn
2. Malgus, Dooku, Maul and Jaina
3. Revan, Krayt Reborn and TFU II Starkiller
4. Vitiate, Exar Kun and RotJ Vader
5. Yoda, DE Luke and Caedus
6. Abeloth

They could potentially clear, but there's a good chance of defeat in a few of the rounds. 4 & 5, especially.

Probably stop at 4.

If they do somehow win, stop hard at 5.

Done at 5 for sure

Originally posted by carthage
Done at 5 for sure

Going with 5, though it'd be a close fight. 4's cutting it close too, tbh.

*scans for group with Revan in it*
Ah, 3. They lose at 3.


LOL jk. They lose at 4.

Originally posted by carthage
Done at 5 for sure

I think they get to 5 before stopping.

Originally posted by Stigma
This is RotS Sidious. Plagueis and Tenebrous are at their peak.

They get full power and health restored after each battle.

All other combatants are also at their peak, unless specified otherwise.

No amp/prep time is given.

Neutral setting.

1. TFU Shaak Ti, Savage, Satele, HoT and Kyle Katarn
2. Malgus, Dooku, Maul and Jaina
3. Revan, Krayt Reborn and TFU II Starkiller
4. Vitiate, Exar Kun and RotJ Vader
5. Yoda, DE Luke and Caedus
6. Abeloth

1. easy.
2. Easy.
3. Getting harder.
4. getting harder again. But RotJ vade WTF????? could you find anyone else instead?
Sdiious >= Luke. > to yoda. Plagueis a bit suêrior to yoda... Tenebrous = Plagueis in less powerfull..... So O.K for this one.
6.Abeloth.... Does she really stand a chance? I know she has been describe as supersupersuper super super suuuuuuuppeeerrr O.P but....

Stomp till 4 which they win with casualties and then dead at 5. Thought I'd say they take 6.

Originally posted by Revanchiste
4. getting harder again. But RotJ vade WTF????? could you find anyone else instead?

Vader is ... wait-for-it ... better than Revan muahaha

They might lose at any level. Not much is known about Plagueis and literally no feats about Tenebrous. Sidious likely would have to carry the team.
But if they are both close to Sidious then can clear all but 5.

According to my opinion about DE Luke, they should win #5. But if I'll assume KMC's standards for DE Luke, then he should be equal to ROTS Yoda and Sidious (and possibly even superior by small margin).

For me, DE Luke is not above ROTJ Vader in terms of battle skills, and DE Palpatine is superior to his ROTS self only as a weapon (Force storm). As a fighter to perssonal duels, like this one, he's below ROTS Sidious mostly because of shit-clone-body.

So, #5:
For me: They takes this, Sidious is more or less equal to Yoda, Plagueis is superior to the others and Luke is the worst. Cadeus is below Plagueis, but above Luke.

For me, basing on KMC's standards: They dies here. Sidious, Yoda and Luke are on the same league, and are superior to Plagueis. Cadeus also may be superior to Plagueis, and is superior to Tenebrous.

And they definitely takes #4. Sidious and Plagueis are strongest guys here. Exar is overrated (without his saber-staff he couldn't even defeat a guy with a stick).

Sidious>Yoda>Caedus>Luke>Plagueis>Tenebrous

The idea that DE Luke is only about as strong as ROTJ Vader is supported by West End Games, whose Thrawn/DE/JA Luke (he didn't improve through those 3 events) was mostly equal (slightly superior in one way) to Vader. He was decidedly inferior to DE Sidious, who outclassed him.

Of course, how reliable west end games is is debatable.

(Luke was 13 Control, 11 Sense, 10 Alter, with 11 Lightsaber dice. Vader was 11, 11, 10, also with 11 Lightsaber dice. Sidious was 15/17/15, with 13 lightsaber dice.)

As a note, the lightsaber combat ability in WEG is determined by adding Sense to hit and Control to damage. So Sidious's to hit rolls are packing 28 dice (-2 for multiple actions

Ironically, Leia's stats are just enough that Luke+Leia is about equal to DE Sidious, but Luke gets stomped without her. They were a fan of the Leia is using Battle Meditation theory.)

Stop at Satele's team who solos via droid crushing TK

Its surprising to see people give group 4 so much credit.

But yeah, they can't pass 5.

Originally posted by Sinious
Its surprising to see people give group 4 so much credit.

But yeah, they can't pass 5.
C'mon, Vader is on team #4. He's a bada$$.

Agreed, they won't pass 5.

Originally posted by Stigma
C'mon, Vader is on team #4. He's a bada$$.

Agreed, they won't pass 5.

hmm you're right he is a badass and he is the weakest member on team 4 so that should be a good fight.

Originally posted by Sinious
hmm you're right he is a badass and he is the weakest member on team 4 so that should be a good fight.
hmm if Vader's weaker than Exar, the difference is slight IMHO.

Originally posted by Stigma
hmm if Vader's weaker than Exar, the difference is slight IMHO.

Yes, they're both top 10 sith material. Kun's superiority over others is often caused by his unexpected mastery of dueling. He is a sorcerer type force user who traditionally shouldn't be that great with the saber but somehow he is.