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The Emperor's Wrath II vs Darth Bane vs Darth Maul vs Darth Krayt (Vong armor)

Who wins this battle of the physical titans? Fight takes place on Had Abbadon, morals and equipment are standard.

Bane prays

Which Bane?

the Bane that prays

Originally posted by Nephthys
Which Bane?

DoE.

Yeah, he wins.

It'd be great if people could provide reasons/rank the combatants.

1. Darth Maul
2. Vong Krayt
3.Wrath II
4. Algae
5. Nematodes
6. Darth Bandon
7. Kanan Jarrus
8. Darth Bane

Originally posted by SunRazer
It'd be great if people could provide reasons/rank the combatants.

Bane
Wrath
And then I'm not sure about Krayt or Maul. Krayt is probably faster, but Maul is more skilled. Krayt's probably faster than the Wrath too, but less awesome.

Edit: Actually, you know what? Krayt. His Vong armor is lightsaber proof.

Personally, I find that the Wrath and TCW Maul are neck-and-neck. Bane's probably ever so slightly above them.

Krayt has the benefit of lightsaber-proof armor.

Wrath's done some great things like beat Sel Makor that just put him on a higher plane than Maul imo.

Yeah, I reconsidered that. It's Bane > Wrath/Krayt > Maul.

1. Beating a Sel-Makor wrestling with Vitiate for control over the body isn't something beyond Maul, who is credited as one of the most skilled and deadliest Sith in history, and has feats like ragdolling Obi-Wan and pulling down 20m shuttles under negative circumstances.

2. Krayt's probably above the Wrath, to be honest. His Lightning annihilated a huge swarm of Rakghouls, and his telekinesis and lightning outclassed all the other Sith of his Order (save for Wyyrlok, who must've received some power increase at some point).

Dude was still powerful enough to generate beings out of thin air, either through reality warping or teleportation. I'd say it is above what Mauls capable of and I couldn't care less about those accolades. The Wrath's beaten some of the most skilled and deadly Sith in history, big whoop. The Wrath just comes off as more powerful and more naturally talented than Maul.

And the Wrath's disintegrated a blast door and resisted the dread masters telepathy. The Wrath also outclasses the Sith of Krayts Order, save Wyyrlok. I doubt Krayt can unleash force attacks stronger than Sel Makor tbh.

Krayt.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude was still powerful enough to generate beings out of thin air, either through reality warping or teleportation. I'd say it is above what Mauls capable of and I couldn't care less about those accolades. The Wrath's beaten some of the most skilled and deadly Sith in history, big whoop. The Wrath just comes off as more powerful and more naturally talented than Maul.

And the Wrath's disintegrated a blast door and resisted the dread masters telepathy. The Wrath also outclasses the Sith of Krayts Order, save Wyyrlok. I doubt Krayt can unleash force attacks stronger than Sel Makor tbh.

1. Of course Sel-Makor's more powerful than Maul, but he was enjoying a rather considerable amplification from the potent dark side nexus. Without such an amplification, I'd put Sel-Makor/Vitiate above Maul in power, but not by enough to outright dominate him. So on even ground (as with the Wrath vs Sel-Makor where they both had the luxury of a DS nexus amplfication), I wouldn't put it past Maul to accomplish a similar feat against Sel-Makor/Vitiate.

2. None of the Sith the Wrath have beaten are as skilled as Maul. As with all game protagonists, the Wrath is treasured with accolades and hype for player pride/to create a sense of importance. In the end, though, there's nothing to suggest the Wrath is "more naturally talented" than Maul is, whose skill feats rival the Wrath's in every sense of the word.

3. The Wrath's mental fortitude is commendable but ultimately irrelevant to this fight, and his TK isn't stronger than Krayt's. I also wouldn't say the Wrath outright outclasses Nihl, but Nihl's definitely outmatched against him.

Darth Bane
Darth Krayt
Darth Maul/Wrath(I have no idea where to rate many of the SWTOR protags, but beneath Bane and Krayt)

Krayt

Great argument being made for Bane as usual

Originally posted by AncientPower
Krayt.

Originally posted by SunRazer
from the potent dark side nexus.
Wasn't that the DS nexus he made though?

Krayt>Maul>Wrath>Bane

Krayt>Wrath>Maul>Bane, tbh

Is that even relevant @Ant?

Gives more context, tbh.

Originally posted by SunRazer
1. Of course Sel-Makor's more powerful than Maul, but he was enjoying a rather considerable amplification from the potent dark side nexus. Without such an amplification, I'd put Sel-Makor/Vitiate above Maul in power, but not by enough to outright dominate him. So on even ground (as with the Wrath vs Sel-Makor where they both had the luxury of a DS nexus amplfication), I wouldn't put it past Maul to accomplish a similar feat against Sel-Makor/Vitiate.

2. None of the Sith the Wrath have beaten are as skilled as Maul. As with all game protagonists, the Wrath is treasured with accolades and hype for player pride/to create a sense of importance. In the end, though, there's nothing to suggest the Wrath is "more naturally talented" than Maul is, whose skill feats rival the Wrath's in every sense of the word.

3. The Wrath's mental fortitude is commendable but ultimately irrelevant to this fight, and his TK isn't stronger than Krayt's. I also wouldn't say the Wrath outright outclasses Nihl, but Nihl's definitely outmatched against him.

1. Who cares? The Wrath fought him in the heart of his power (which also means he may be under pressure from the insanely corrupting power of the place while fighting too) so that amp was relevant to the fight. And no, the Wrath wouldn't get an amp. Either he'd be damaged by the power or he'd be cut off from it. Plus he had to fight his way through the countless monsters in the Nightmare Lands as well as a couple dozen Gormak and beasts summoned by Sel Makor.

2. The Wrath pulls off massively impressive feats immediately into his training. Maul had decades of training to get to the level he has, whereas the Wrath pulls it off in a handful of years. In the first act of the game he outduels the greatest Jedi Instructor alive and the best student he ever trained at the same time. To me that's an indication of outstanding natural aptitude. And the accolades are valid no matter the reason behind them. Hyping the player still hypes the character.

3. It's an indication of power. What's Krayt done that's so great in TK? And I think you're really underestimating the Wrath if you don't think he outmatches Nihl. Dude buzzsaws through armies and Jedi like butter.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Dude buzzsaws through armies and Jedi like butter.
That was actually Nox, tbh.

Originally posted by Nephthys

3. It's an indication of power. What's Krayt done that's so great in TK? And I think you're really underestimating the Wrath if you don't think he outmatches Nihl. Dude buzzsaws through armies and Jedi like butter.

Powerscaling is Krayt's ally, and a powerful ally it is

Originally posted by Nephthys
What's Krayt done that's so great in TK?
Ragdolling Nihl and fighting Abeloth.

http://i21.servimg.com/u/f21/17/73/92/12/laugh10.png

Originally posted by Nephthys
1. Who cares? The Wrath fought him in the heart of his power (which also means he may be under pressure from the insanely corrupting power of the place while fighting too) so that amp was relevant to the fight. And no, the Wrath wouldn't get an amp. Either he'd be damaged by the power or he'd be cut off from it. Plus he had to fight his way through the countless monsters in the Nightmare Lands as well as a couple dozen Gormak and beasts summoned by Sel Makor.

2. The Wrath pulls off massively impressive feats immediately into his training. Maul had decades of training to get to the level he has, whereas the Wrath pulls it off in a handful of years. In the first act of the game he outduels the greatest Jedi Instructor alive and the best student he ever trained at the same time. To me that's an indication of outstanding natural aptitude. And the accolades are valid no matter the reason behind them. Hyping the player still hypes the character.

3. It's an indication of power. What's Krayt done that's so great in TK? And I think you're really underestimating the Wrath if you don't think he outmatches Nihl. Dude buzzsaws through armies and Jedi like butter.

1. The point was that Maul can replicate the showing.

2. Maul was only in his early twenties (22) by TPM, and spent a decade rotting on Lotho Minor. That's hardly "decades of training".

3. Well, for one, outclass everybody else of his Order in TK. And I said he does outmatch Nihl, but doesn't outclass him entirely.