Obi-Wan and Mace Windu vs Darth Sidious
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Jmanghan
1. Sabers
2. Force
3. All-Out
Kurk
Sabers: Possibly team; depends on Windu amp
Force: Sidious - no explanation needed
All-Out: Sidious
Obi-Wan is a non-factor he dies when Sidious wants him to.
Mace on the other hand could possibly outspar Sidious depending on the amp which is unlikely to occur again.
Sidious could've killed Mace in the first moments of their fight but he needed him alive to convert Anakin.
As the fight wore on, Windu got super pissed at the whole situation; knowing the entire Clone Wars was a bunch of BullS**t under the control of Sidious the entire time. Windu and Sidious begin to fight on the same level until Mace disarms Sidious. At that point it was all showplay for Anakin (Sidious was always in control - Could've killed Windu with force)
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DarthAnt66
infinite keks @ final text
Trocity
Windu solos, he already stomped Sidious once.
Jmanghan
Obi-Wan is nearly on the level of Mace and Dooku with his mastery of Soresu.
I don't think you realize how good his lightsaber prowess truly is.
He's better then Maul, and we saw how long Savage and Maul lasted against Sidious.
XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Assuming we're doing this on-paper, Sidious ragdolls.

Kurk
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Obi-Wan is nearly on the level of Mace and Dooku with his mastery of Soresu.
I don't think you realize how good his lightsaber prowess truly is.
He's better then Maul, and we saw how long Savage and Maul lasted against Sidious. Oh yeah tots man; he definitely wasn't playing with them at all.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Kurk
Oh yeah tots man; he definitely wasn't playing with them at all. Wasn't Maul already sourced as being nearly Dooku-level?
Kurk
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Wasn't Maul already sourced as being nearly Dooku-level? Savage could've gone as quickly as anyone on the B-team; Maul put up one hell of a fight in the end, but it's important to remember he was trying to kill his master while Sidious needed him alive. Also Maul, being Sidious's apprentice, was somewhat familiar with his fighting style which gives him an edge that Kenobi wouldn't have.
Kenobi being a better duelist than Maul is a debatable topic
Jmanghan
Originally posted by Kurk
Savage could've gone as quickly as anyone on the B-team; Maul put up one hell of a fight in the end, but it's important to remember he was trying to kill his master while Sidious needed him alive. Also Maul, being Sidious's apprentice, was somewhat familiar with his fighting style which gives him an edge that Kenobi wouldn't have.
Kenobi being a better duelist than Maul is a debatable topic He outsmarted Maul several times, as well as beat him in a saber duel more times then Kenobi has beaten him.
NewGuy01
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Wasn't Maul already sourced as being nearly Dooku-level?
He probably is. That doesn't change that he's not even in the league preceding Palpatine's.
Jmanghan
Originally posted by NewGuy01
He probably is. That doesn't change that he's not even in the league preceding Palpatine's. I'd put Dooku and Mace on the same tier as Sidious.
I'd also put Kenobi on the same tier as Mace as a duelist. Not quite as good, but incredibly close.
Trocity
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I'd put Dooku and Mace on the same tier as Sidious.
The f**k?
cs_zoltan
While their lightsaber skills are comparable, their speed is not. Sidious takes all.
Darth Thor
Windu on his own is clearly comparable to Sidious in a Pure Saber match up at least.
EmperorSidious2
Sabers- I don't think Mace will receive the same boost as he did the first time. However these are two very skilled deulist, but Sidious is extremely fast, faster than anyone here. If Sidious gets rid Obi wan fast enough which he most likely could and would, then he wins sabers.
Force-Sidious
All-Out -Sidious
Rebel95
1. Possibly team
2. Sidious easily
3. Sidious
quanchi112
Team in all. Windu has his number.
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