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Empire Strikes Back Luke, when he fought Vader.

Round 1: Movie only feats.

Round 2: Disney Canon feats.

Round 3: Legends/Disney feats for Luke.

Lulz, Luke destroys all rounds.

Luke butchers.

...Nah, tbh.

Kylo wins.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
...Nah, tbh.

Dude got hit by a Finn.

Even compared to Luke, Kylo's way too clunky and slow. Despite the all the hype the visual dictionary gives him, he kind of swings his saber wildly. If it wasn't for him obviously being Force Sensitive, and Finn being probably not, I'd honestly say Finn would have killed him.

Luke all rounds

Luke wins.

Originally posted by ares834
Dude got hit by a Finn. So ?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Even compared to Luke, Kylo's way too clunky and slow. Despite the all the hype the visual dictionary gives him, he kind of swings his saber wildly. If it wasn't for him obviously being Force Sensitive, and Finn being probably not, I'd honestly say Finn would have killed him.

Getting additional training is even part of his motive.

I get the impression the Knights of Ren are kinda like inquisitors, and Kylo is one aiming to be 'Sith'- or whatever Snoke is.


A wounded talented youngster sliced him up, and yea, a non-force sensitive (or at minimum, one not as awake as Rey) with more melee training did well against him. Even wounded, a strong force user shouldn't be so pressed.

Luke stomps, this whiny little biatch with daddy and granddaddy issues.

Ren is better than ESB Luke.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Luke stomps, this whiny little biatch with daddy and granddaddy issues. Kylo overcame his personal struggle which was glorious. Already greater than Vader.