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All fights take place on flat, neutral terrain. Full rest in between combats.

1. Ventress
2. SoD Maul
3. Darth Nox
4. KOTOR Revan
5. Karness Muur

Boss: Darth Krayt

Nox

3 or 4

Maul, Muur, Or Krayt

Yeah, 3 or 4

May stop at Nox. If not stops at Muur.

Falls somewhere 3-Boss

Definitely makes it through the first two and definitely is not clearing.

Not sure on 4/5, but he definitely loses to boss.

You of all people thinks he has a shot against Muur?

Uh, yeah, tbh. It's generally accepted that Dooku could take wins against Vader, why not Muur?

Yeah but /10 you think Dooku could take a majority?

It is? News to me.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Yeah but /10 you think Dooku could take a majority?

Maybe not, but the very least I think it warrants discussion.

Interesting.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Interesting.

I do as well. I think Dooku could take some wins with his superior lightsaber skills and I think he's strong enough to prevent himself from getting dominated with the Force. Not for a majority though of course...

1. Ventress - wins 10/10
2. SoD Maul - wins 6-7/10
3. Darth Nox - wins 0/10, total failure
4. KOTOR Revan - wins 3/10, good fight
5. Karness Muur - wins 6/10, great fight

Boss: Darth Krayt - wins 6/10, great fight

He doesn't beat krayt

Why? He is a superior duelist.

Originally posted by carthage
Maul, Muur, Or Krayt

Huh. I didn't know it had gotten to the point that people thought Maul was a peer of Dooku's.

ILS is an convincing entity

He's a good friend but that's a bit ridiculous to me tbh. He's comparable but a peer or somebody capable of taking a majority against him? Nah.

According to the guy behind SoD, you're wrong son.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Falls somewhere 3-Boss

Definitely makes it through the first two and definitely is not clearing.

10/10 selective quoting.

Clears

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Clears
How does he beat Krayt?

It's Abe, DMB.

Originally posted by Trocity
It's Abe, DMB. dmb wants to embarrass him again i imagine

Originally posted by NewGuy01
According to the guy behind SoD, you're wrong son. Erm, if there another quote from Barlow on Maul aside from this?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124590/4133613-maulnotondookuvaderlevel.png

Yeah there's one where he states Maul would take a 7/10 majority over Dooku

anhero timing

An adderull timing

Gib dat quot boi.

On my phone at skewl. I don't have the source, but I wouldn't exactly rely on either of those quotes.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Yeah there's one where he states Maul would take a 7/10 majority over Dooku Fascinating.

We'll rely on feats in which Dooku is superior. :P I was only entertaining the notion. Quotes mean jack shit to me if unsupported.

I think it may have been via Twitter or something

And that doesn't stop you from using the ridiculous Ventress vs Windu one :no1:

Twitter is obviously > then an official quote from an interview. :P

Either being less cancerous than the quote about the Ruul duel

Originally posted by Syndicate
Quotes mean jack shit to me if unsupported. Originally posted by Emperordmb
And that doesn't stop you from using the ridiculous Ventress vs Windu one :no1: Destroyed.

Syndicate: Dooku > Maul, via quotes

Creator of SoD: Maul > Dooku

Syndicate: On second thought, I suddenly don't trust creator commentary, quotes are full of shit, feats please

I swear guys it's really just me being unreasonable, Dooku kicks everyone's ass and isn't debated for autistically

Originally posted by ILS
Syndicate: Dooku > Maul, via quotes

Creator of SoD: Maul > Dooku

Syndicate: On second thought, I suddenly don't trust creator commentary, quotes are full of shit, feats please

I swear guys it's really just me being unreasonable, Dooku kicks everyone's ass and isn't debated for autistically

Didn't the same writer say that Maul isn't weaker than Tyranus?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Didn't the same writer say that Maul isn't weaker than Tyranus? He said, in the context of discussing Maul's potential as an "A-List villain", that he isn't as powerful as Dooku, let alone Vader, but stands alongside either of them through sheer force of will. Given the vagueness produced by giving a strict power hierarchy only to declare Maul an equal for either, I'd presume that he's talking about political/military power opposed to strict Force combat. Maul was abandoned, Dooku is powerful but is nevertheless a political puppet and placeholder, and Vader has the best seat at Sidious' feet out of anyone. But that hasn't stopped Maul from capturing Dooku/Grievous and having them dead to rights. I guess that's what he means by him being a less powerful "underdog" who still gets shit done.

And in a separate forum post to Erkan he says that he'd give Maul a 7/10 over Dooku in a 1v1. I need to find it again.

I don't take Barlow's commentary seriously, never have, but if anything it works out in Maul's favour.

Originally posted by ILS
Syndicate: Dooku > Maul, via quotes

Creator of SoD: Maul > Dooku

Syndicate: On second thought, I suddenly don't trust creator commentary, quotes are full of shit, feats please

I swear guys it's really just me being unreasonable, Dooku kicks everyone's ass and isn't debated for autistically

Quotes don't mean anything to me if unsupported. The creator's former quote is supported by feats. The one about Maul beating Dooku is UNsupported which is why I don't support it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Destroyed.

The quote is supported by Ventress's other feats and performances.

Originally posted by ILS
He said, in the context of discussing Maul's potential as an "A-List villain", that he isn't as powerful as Dooku, let alone Vader, but stands alongside either of them through sheer force of will. Given the vagueness produced by giving a strict power hierarchy only to declare Maul an equal for either, I'd presume that he's talking about political/military power opposed to strict Force combat. Maul was abandoned, Dooku is powerful but is nevertheless a political puppet and placeholder, and Vader has the best seat at Sidious' feet out of anyone. But that hasn't stopped Maul from capturing Dooku/Grievous and having them dead to rights. I guess that's what he means by him being a less powerful "underdog" who still gets shit done.

And in a separate forum post to Erkan he says that he'd give Maul a 7/10 over Dooku in a 1v1. I need to find it again.

I don't take Barlow's commentary seriously, never have, but if anything it works out in Maul's favour.

10/10 interpretation. No bias at all.

Also just because Erkan bugged the shit out of someone until they gave him what he wanted doesn't make the statement valid.

An hero already

Originally posted by Syndicate
Quotes don't mean anything to me if unsupported. The creator's former quote is supported by feats. The one about Maul beating Dooku is UNsupported which is why I don't support it. In your subjective opinion. Originally posted by Syndicate
10/10 interpretation. No bias at all.

Also just because Erkan bugged the shit out of someone until they gave him what he wanted doesn't make the statement valid. Lol, if I was truly biased I'd be pressing for Barlow's opinion that Maul would defeat Dooku more often than not as legitimate evidence.

Lol, Erkan can't be held accountable for what comes out of Barlow's mouth any more than Dooku can be held accountable for how far his cock has gotten into your intestines.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
An hero already

http://r35.imgfast.net/users/3513/11/32/39/smiles/1341734200.gif

Because of facts actually. Dooku's force feats are just plain BETTER.

Maul being above Dooku is subjective.

You don't need to do that because you know you're a better debater then a majority of people. Desperation leads people to do crazy things, things we sometimes wouldn't expect ourselves to do. Who knows, maybe if you'd chosen a few different paths in life and you weren't as good of a Maul debater as you were but were still somehow involved in the debating community you'd be wanking that quote for all it was worth.

Dooku would never get his ass kicked by Kenobi like Maul and Savage did. Ergo.

The Ventress thing doesn't even make sense based on feats though, and based on what happened in the comic.

Lol. Apparently I have Dooku's wrinkly ball sack hugging my nuts because I'm skeptical about Maul being superior to Dooku.

Also ILS don't pretend as if you didn't know my views. You know I don't use quotes if they're unsupported by feats.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The Ventress thing doesn't even make sense based on feats though, and based on what happened in the comic.

*Shrug* Ventress beat Grievous. Mace failed to beat a hindered Grievous.

Ventress beat a pre-prime Grievous, on a nexus too if you actually take that into consideration, though I really could give less of a shit and almost never actually bring that crap up, and it took her just about all of her effort. Windu's fight with Grievous barely lasted longer than a single exchange.

On Dathomir

When did Windu fight TCW Grievous.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
When did Windu fight TCW Grievous.

It was LoE Grievous.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
When did Windu fight TCW Grievous.

Oh. You're on of those people that separate the various incarnations.

They should be separated just on chronological showings. If you look at it chronologically, SOD/Utupau/LOE/ROTS Grievous has the best of his showings and they also happen to be his most recent showings.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
They should be separated just on chronological showings. If you look at it chronologically, SOD/Utupau/LOE/ROTS Grievous has the best of his showings and they also happen to be his most recent showings.

That's how I do it.

Meh, still not convinced there exists continuity between Legends & Canon Grievous.

There is an implication Grievous improved over the course of the Clone Wars but to suggest he achieved his Legends ability is reaching imo.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Meh, still not convinced there exists continuity between Legends & Canon Grievous.

There is an implication Grievous improved over the course of the Clone Wars but to suggest he achieved his Legends ability is reaching imo.
Definitely not as of TCW season 5. After that though he's pretty beast.

Definitely stops at Nox. Kek @ her not being 5 tho, superior to everyone here but Krayt.

No, she's definitely not.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
No, she's definitely not.

Stops at 3.

Originally posted by Syndicate
Because of facts actually. Dooku's force feats are just plain BETTER.

Maul being above Dooku is subjective.

You don't need to do that because you know you're a better debater then a majority of people. Desperation leads people to do crazy things, things we sometimes wouldn't expect ourselves to do. Who knows, maybe if you'd chosen a few different paths in life and you weren't as good of a Maul debater as you were but were still somehow involved in the debating community you'd be wanking that quote for all it was worth. In your opinion.

And Dooku being above Maul is subjective. Welcome to debating 101, sweetheart.

Right, but we're not in a parallel reality where I'm pretending to be like you or Erkan.

Lol. "Quotes are meaningless if I don't agree with them."

Thx 4 the new debating tactic sp0rt

Originally posted by ILS
In your opinion.

And Dooku being above Maul is subjective. Welcome to debating 101, sweetheart.

Right, but we're not in a parallel reality where I'm pretending to be like you or Erkan.

Not in my opinion. By scaling and mathematics.

I never denied that. I'd just like to make clear that since there was never a direct fight between them that showed a clear winner a quote saying Dooku is above Maul or Maul is above Dooku shouldn't matter. Even the quotes about Dooku being more powerful doesn't really matter. It might be true but it doesn't really effect anything because we already knew that by observing their basic feats.

First off, you don't have to be such an a$shole. Second off, I didn't say we were. I'm simply saying the quote shouldn't matter regardless.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Lol. "Quotes are meaningless if I don't agree with them."

Thx 4 the new debating tactic sp0rt

Quotes are meaningless if they're unsupported*

Originally posted by Syndicate
Quotes are meaningless if they're unsupported*

Unsupported according to you.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Unsupported according to you.

Unsupported in general.

It's rather simple, Maul is a great duelist, but not on the level of Mace or Dooku, in force powers it's even more unfair.
LS Skillwise
1. Yoda
2. Sidious
3. Dooku
4. Mace
...
9. Maul

More or less.