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Who wins?

mmm

Team as of?

Outlander feats or nah?

As of SoR. No KotFE.

*Shrug*

I'll go Vader.

Vader. It took HoT + 6 people to beat Revan.

Even then they weren't enough.

Vader, if he doesn't job.

Jader dies. Vader wins.

Vader.

Vader

Team, lol. Vader ~ Revan = Cancer.

Let's also not pretend that any member of the Coalition team would make up for either Hero or 'thor.

Vader doesn't have to be = Revan to defeat this duo.

BM amped Hero, Marr, Lana, Theron and co. were STILL going to lose to Revan without Spirit Revan's intervention. Those four are far more formidable than regular Hero and regular 'Thor.

Vader wins.

Vader would have killed the Wookiee.

Nigga couldn't even rip a holocron out of Ezra's hand. He ain't killing shiz.

Considering 'thor has basically stomped the First Son and the Hero has solidly defeated a Voice of the Emperor. Both of them growing far stronger in the years leading to the Revanite War, it's an excellent feat for Revan, not an inclination of inferiority to Darth Vader.

Revan the Resurrected is quite clearly approaching the likes of Darth Plagueis and Yoda. Considering he's tanking and absorbing lightning 'infinitely' more powerful than lightning on the teir of Darth Bane a superior of Dooku, before achieving two concurrent increases in power. Vader isn't on par with that whatsoever.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Considering 'thor has basically stomped the First Son

Right.



Which means shit. Because we know the actual Emperor could kill half a dozen of him in an instant.



Based on?



Actually, it kinda is.

She tanked his assaults and sent him flying, First Son was amped by hundreds of Jedi at that time.

It means an awful lot actually, given that the likes of Baras needed a dark side entity to enact his plan. This against an inferior Voice, the Voice is also implied to be capable of cowing the Dark Council and the Dread Masters regardless of his state.

The protags have always grown in power across separate acts and the statements by the likes of Satele Shan only reinforce this.

Considering Revan is a solid superior of Darth Vader, not really.

Originally posted by AncientPower
She tanked his assaults and sent him flying, First Son was amped by hundreds of Jedi at that time.

Vivicar* was amped by hundreds of Jedi. The Barsen'thor only did anything like what you're saying in the Dark Side ending, which is presumably not the canon route. The First Son was simultaneously fighting an internal war with his alter ego Syo Bakarn, which even factors into the gameplay. An unseen battle of unknown length being ended by a successful telekinetic assault against an exhausted opponent doesn't necessarily indicate that the entire fight was one-sided. Seriously, there are too many things wrong with this to address at once.



Wow, the ever-relevant Darth Baras is afraid to confront his mythically powerful Emperor? And this is magically relevant in regards to the weakened, vulnerable voice that the Hero defeated? Yeah, you sure got me there.



"Regardless of his state."

Yeah, calling bullshit. Especially considering that the allegedly "far more powerful" versions of the protags couldn't begin to stand against the Dread Masters alone.



--in other words, you have nothing but your own wild conjecture. And Satele's claims regarding the protags haven't changed since Act 1.

The First Son had connections to the rest of the Emperor's Children, whom numbered in the hundreds. His ability to hide the others from the Order was also rescindable. When facing Lord Vivicar, he was amped by hundreds of Jedi Masters, in all endings to the fight the Barsen'thor was the very apparent superior.

The Voss of the Emperor isn't as strong as the actual Voice of the Emperor, despite this Darth Baras had no delusions. He knew he alone wouldn't stand a chance, thus he led the Voss into the nightmare lands.

The Dread Masters state that the Emperor's absence leaves them with no one Sith worthy of their obedience. The Voice of the Emperor was himself the only one who commanded them personally, cry wolf as much as you please but the evidence is apparent.

You mean besides the fact that all four Force user classes all greatly increase in power across the story, the Dread War arc and the Hutt War arc are both considered Acts themselves and even take place over a considerable amount of time.

Smilies aren't helping your failing stance, Revan >> Vader, thus using Revan as a means to argue this team's inferiority is an exercise in futility.

Revan >> Vader is legit AIDS. You have to be beyond Yoda for that level of ability.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Revan >> Vader is legit AIDS. You have to be beyond Yoda for that level of ability.

Don't you have Ragnos > Vader, and Kun > Ragnos?

Considering Revan is showing Yoda tier Force defense and sporting the best willpower in the mythos, before getting even more powerful. I'd agree.

Team. Just because Revan did something doesn't mean Vader can, they're very different combatants.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Team. Just because Revan did something doesn't mean Vader can, they're very different combatants.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Revan >> Vader is legit AIDS. You have to be beyond Yoda for that level of ability.

1) And, Revan isn't?

2) Someone who can't defeat Old ben or a neophyte Luke, is loosing to the HOT.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Team, lol. Vader ~ Revan = Cancer.

Lel, kill yourself.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Let's also not pretend that any member of the Coalition team would make up for either Hero or 'thor.

Lel, Marr > Wrath, Nox.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Don't you have Ragnos > Vader, and Kun > Ragnos?

There's a difference between being better, and being significantly better. Which is what AP implies.

Fantastic argument, return to me when Vader can incinerate Tano and we might have a sort-of interesting debate.

Marr has **** all on either of them, kek. Marr sat his ass down when Wrath turned up and if Wrath threatens them, Marr doesn't even attempt to reply, after Wrath eviscerates Darth Baras. Darth Nox dominated Darth Thanaton, who was also considered to be one of the strongest members of the Dark Council.

What the hell were you thinking even attempting to argue that?

Incinerate a ***** who's tanking Darth Sidious's lightning and Force pushing Darth Maul at 17? Gurl, you cray.

+also possibly surviving the Malachor temple explosion

...wut?

Get up to date, gurl, gawd.

Originally posted by AncientPower
What the hell were you thinking even attempting to argue that?

https://media.giphy.com/media/20vHbYhl8VWbm/giphy.gif

But his desire to leave a strong Empire behind him is unquestioned, and his abilities are second to none.

http://www.swtor-spy.com/codex/darth-marr/91655/

Argue that fuggot.

They got ragdolled by Arcann and needed backup to take down Malgus, yeah Vader wins. Originally posted by AncientPower
Fantastic argument, return to me when Vader can incinerate Tano and we might have a sort-of interesting debate.http://66.media.tumblr.com/c5d3083a13f20fea5d5355843b8e8e02/tumblr_inline_mq1y5pDH071qz4rgp.gif

Hey, maybe Ahsoka is just really ****ing powerful. Just maybe.

Beni when/if those feats get legitimately canonized we have a ****ing jackpot of wank to use and no one will be able to stop us.

No one.

I like how AP thinks Yoda has better defense feats than Vader.

Vader has one of the best barrier feats in the mythos.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Beni when/if those feats get legitimately canonized we have a ****ing jackpot of wank to use and no one will be able to stop us.

No one.

Honestly though it wasn't just concept art, they were sketches for intended story arcs, bits of which even got animated.

So yeah pretty sure they are/will be canon, frankly Ahsoka's fight with Maul already is. Guess we'll find out more in the Ahsoka novel.

For now though, let's just revel in them:

http://i.imgur.com/mYmJ96d.png

http://i.imgur.com/dIwF104.png

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
https://media.giphy.com/media/20vHbYhl8VWbm/giphy.gif

But his desire to leave a strong Empire behind him is unquestioned, and his abilities are second to none.

http://www.swtor-spy.com/codex/darth-marr/91655/

Argue that fuggot.

OMG, his abilities are second to none, besides of course Jadus, who is the second most powerful Sith in the Empire. Oh and don't forget about Wrath, he's the most powerful Sith in the Empire besides the Emperor too. Oh and nevermind Nox, she's the most powerful Sith in the empire as well. Don't forget the Dread Masters, the most powerful collection of Sith in the Empire's history. Oh and don't forget about Lord Scourge, because he can kill pretty much anyone in the Empire.

It's almost as if codex entries are self-contradictory in the game, and thus should be considered with caution when applied.

Originally posted by Beniboybling


Honestly though it wasn't just concept art, they were sketches for intended story arcs, bits of which even got animated.

So yeah pretty sure they are/will be canon, frankly Ahsoka's fight with Maul already is. Guess we'll find out more in the Ahsoka novel.

For now though, let's just revel in them:

http://i.imgur.com/mYmJ96d.png

http://i.imgur.com/dIwF104.png

All 16 years before her prime. https://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2CnEGRjXHRAas0/giphy.gif

We accept everyone's concession who's ever argued against her.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I like how AP thinks Yoda has better defense feats than Vader.

Almost as if he's absorbing Darth Sidious' Force lightning.

And that compares to tanking the largest weapon factory in the Empire blowing up as well as the Sith Temple's explosion!


...No, wait. It doesn't, and thinking it does is a sign of mental retardation.

The codex is from Makeb, Jadus is gone, Scourge is gone, Dread Masters only worth shit collectively. Nice try tho.

The Dread Masters are also no longer part of the Empire, yeah.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
All 16 years before her prime. https://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2CnEGRjXHRAas0/giphy.gif

We accept everyone's concession who's ever argued against her. First Maul, then Vader, now Sidious. All my favourite characters are joining together to serve Ahsoka, their wank will serve us well.

Right, they defected in EC. Forgot it was that early.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
The codex is from Makeb, Jadus is gone, Scourge is gone, Dread Masters only worth shit collectively. Nice try tho.

Man, I didn't know a legit dying Sith Lord actually got better over time, not worse.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
First Maul, then Vader, now Sidious. All my favourite characters are joining together to serve Ahsoka, their wank will serve us well. https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y8cdPle4eIyPu/200.gif

Originally posted by AncientPower
Man, I didn't know a legit dying Sith Lord actually got better over time, not worse.

It means they are not included in the accolade lel.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Almost as if he's absorbing Darth Sidious' Force lightning. Originally posted by Beniboybling
http://i.imgur.com/mYmJ96d.pngAhsoka = Yoda-tier confirmed. Originally posted by |King Joker|
https://media3.giphy.com/media/Y8cdPle4eIyPu/200.gif Lmao

I'd enjoy Tano's ascendancy, assuming this novel makes her an actual character with in-depth development. Filoni is just terrible at writing her into something likeable.

>Order 66 approaching.
>Better loop-hole my favourite character out of it.

Originally posted by cs_zoltan
It means they are not included in the accolade lel.

I don't know why I have to explain why that's not really relevant.

Originally posted by AncientPower
I'd enjoy Tano's ascendancy, assuming this novel makes her an actual character with in-depth development. Filoni is just terrible at writing her into something likeable. How so, in particular? I think her growth as a character throughout the Clone Wars was awesome and pretty apparent.

She's also too good to get cut down by clones. hmph

It might just be me remembering Tano's 'contributions' to the Jedi Path. I'd be here all day though, to be honest.

Originally posted by AncientPower
It might just be me remembering Tano's 'contributions' to the Jedi Path. I'd be here all day though, to be honest. I thought she was hilarious in the Jedi Path.

But they were all pointless fan service statements, tbh.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
And that compares to tanking the largest weapon factory in the Empire blowing up as well as the Sith Temple's explosion!


...No, wait. It doesn't, and thinking it does is a sign of mental retardation.

He's also the only person in canon so far whose deflected turbolasers

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I like how AP thinks Yoda has better defense feats than Vader.
He does.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
They got ragdolled by Arcann and needed backup to take down Malgus, yeah Vader wins.
And why is that valid for Darth Vader?

What a question.