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Dmb but there's kotor II in brackets

Still Nyriss.

Nyriss still without much difficulty

Do you guys hold the view that kotor II Exile > Revan Exile even were she healthy?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Do you guys hold the view that kotor II Exile > Revan
Duh.

I mean, apparently she is Vader tier, which we all know Revan ain't.

I thought you were considering Revan being above Vader?

I think that's possible from powerscaling, but not from "raw" environmental feats.

"Raw" being shown power without use of powerscalling?

Dunno, but it will be much harder for Nyriss, at least.

Nyriss.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
"Raw" being shown power without use of powerscalling?

Like moving heavy things and similar demonstrations. TFU is beyond what we see from Revan. Maybe his Rataka-f*cking and Malachor-mind-sh*t count, but they're nexus and prep dependent.

Simple scaling from Darth Nihilus, Darth Jadus, and Thana Vesh makes it clear Revan could replicate those feats.

And for shown feats, hurling down large meteors into the Inner Sanctum with such force they pulverize is impressive.

http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_medium/11114/111140132/4595313-2577311994-ywMG6.gif

Yeah, powerscaling is a thing. I'm still skeptical of Nihilus's ravager feat, and Jadus's dreadnaught one is also a little vaguely described. I don't think that any of them demonstrate the kind of casual application of such techniques in the midst of combat, with prep or nexuses, to the same extent that Vader and Galen do. Nihilus eventually lifts the Ravager (under a gravity well of unknown strength given that it wasn't constant throughout the planet, given the academy on the other side being unharmed) via a nexus, but given an arbitrary amount of time, that's much easier than Galen doing that thing to the frigate in a time crunch.

The meteor showing is cool but, come on, it's not on the level of what we see in TFU. Blasting apart a frigate, however damaged it may be, is more impressive than pulling down some bus-sized objects.

Nihilus wasn't even at full power when he did the Ravager feat. Plus there's the thing about him also raising other ships as well.

Nihilus wasn't at full power, but he also had prep and a nexus, so IDK if this inflates or deflates his abilities in total. And I'm pretty sure it's just some cult members who think he raised the rest of the fleet.

Before I respond, can you quote me on where it states he specifically disintegrated roughly *half* of the ship?

Originally posted by The Ellimist
Nihilus wasn't at full power, but he also had prep and a nexus, so IDK if this inflates or deflates his abilities in total. And I'm pretty sure it's just some cult members who think he raised the rest of the fleet.

Pretty sure its the loading screen that says "fleet".

Theres also no indication of prep and the gravity well surely counters the nexus. Not that he's indicated to be drawing on it.

Man, such a fishy feat.

He's supposedly weakened, supposedly NOT drawing on the nexus, and pulls a giant ship out of a gravity well and holds it together, then is still somehow defeated by a party of relative noobs by comparison.

Revan, who is supposed to be more powerful than Nihilus, should honestly have reduced the strike team in SoR to paste with a gesture if this were the case. I get the main party can't die in a video game you're playing, but man, that just reeks to me.

Kotor II Exile is no noob. And I'm sure you're aware of the circumstances in that fight.

Funny how you try to use that line of reasoning when Marek is also being discussed. With his feats he should have vaporised everyone he fought, yet surprisingly that didn't happen.

It's almost as if the SoR strike team is actually really powerful or something, gosh.

I think the point of how pre-prime Nihilus was really has to be stressed.

Remember that his power is based on his hunger, and at this time he was only draining individuals.

He hadn't come close to being able to consume planets yet.

Originally posted by Nephthys


Funny how you try to use that line of reasoning when Marek is also being discussed. With his feats he should have vaporised everyone he fought, yet surprisingly that didn't happen.

You rather hit the nail on the head here.

Should also note. Nihilius appears to hold the ravager together with his own TK. Which means every time the ship undergoes acceleration or deceleration, if Nihilus wasn't holding it together, it'd break apart. Going by statistical uncertainty - as we're not given an acceleration speed for the ravager - that speed would be around 29,400 m/s after 1 second. The kind of energery used to maintain his ship far outstrips that anything we've seen galen produce.

Without an extremely powerful dark side nexus in the setting they should at least be equals.

Nah, it's Tobin that says fleet.

A loading screen also mentions a fleet.

Originally posted by The Ellimist
I mean, apparently she is Vader tier, which we all know Revan ain't. Please be sarcasm.

Nyriss wins