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Sabers only.

Luke very convincingly.

bane dies imo

edit: wrong thread

Either way.

Skywalker

Luke, yeah.

Luke pretty solidly.

Luke

Galen.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Galen.
Disgusting hang yourself

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Disgusting hang yourself Learn how to grammar first and I might think about it.

Unless you wanna debate it.

Hint: (You'll lose.)

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Luke very convincingly.

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Luke very convincingly.

Luke was matching a factually more skilled Vader than the one that Galen fought (and seemingly failed to equal). With respect to instinctive ability, there's no comparison here. Galen's the more experienced, though, and switching to something like Juyo could well throw Luke off.

I might still back Luke here, though.

opinions opinions opinions

Originally posted by SunRazer
Luke was matching a factually more skilled Vader than the one that Galen fought (and seemingly failed to equal). With respect to instinctive ability, there's no comparison here. Galen's the more experienced, though, and switching to something like Juyo could well throw Luke off.

I might still back Luke here, though.

"factually"

"failed to equal"

A lot of assumptions we're making here.

In TFU, Marek beat Vader soundly, to the point he was still able to put up another round against Sidious, and hold his own without Oneness for a time.

gengiskhanwalla would rape u in a debate mango

Originally posted by JKBart
gengiskhanwalla would rape u in a debate mango Ok.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Luke was matching a factually more skilled Vader than the one that Galen fought (and seemingly failed to equal). With respect to instinctive ability, there's no comparison here. Galen's the more experienced, though, and switching to something like Juyo could well throw Luke off.

I might still back Luke here, though.

While Vader was more skilled I don't no where you're getting the idea that Galen failed to match him.

Unless I'm mistaken, the implication behind the quotes about Vader holding back relate to his superiority over Starkiller, who factually shares Galen's aptitude for combat.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Unless I'm mistaken, the implication behind the quotes about Vader holding back relate to his superiority over Starkiller, who factually shares Galen's aptitude for combat. When did Vader say he held back against Galen?

No, it was an interview with Sam Witwer.

Originally posted by SunRazer
No, it was an interview with Sam Witwer. What were his exact words?

Pretty sure there's more to it, but as I said, there's nothing directly indicating anything her. But I do read into this the implication that Vader was stronger or at least equal to Starkiller, and he's grown much since ANH. Luke's performance was just flat-out better.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Unless I'm mistaken, the implication behind the quotes about Vader holding back relate to his superiority over Starkiller, who factually shares Galen's aptitude for combat.

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Syn gona rain down on your ass with his fanaticism. He's blinder than Kanan when talking about Galen.

I don't need to respond, lol.

You always respond to my trolling tho.

I take that as a compliment.

Depends. I'm generally more inclined to indulge in some friendly trolling that I recognize than some cancerous wanky-wank.

U r trolling Zoltan?

Idk, am I?

Originally posted by SunRazer
Unless I'm mistaken, the implication behind the quotes about Vader holding back relate to his superiority over Starkiller, who factually shares Galen's aptitude for combat.

Except the clone doesn't. He holds Galen's potential and memories but isn't nessecarily as powerful. Regardless Vader had several advantages in the fight against Starkiller; psychological manipulation, the fact that he chose the location of the fight and the fact that he controlled the pace of the fight with a dying Juno nearby which forced Starkiller to try to find a way to end the fight quickly.