[CANCER] Darth Plagueis vs Obi-Wan by... *sigh* Evannova and Jensaarai

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Balta Skywalker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tk__zGPNWM

I could make a 3 pages long thing about how wrong this is. I don't feel to do it, though, so...
Thoughts?

Ursumeles
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=632697&pagenumber=1

UCanShootMyNova
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Jmanghan
Obi-Wan puts up a decent fight in Sabers, but loses, and gets absolutely destroyed in force.

Plaguies stomps all-out.

chingchangwalla
He honestly doesn't put up a decent fight in sabers. He gets speedblitzed.

UCanShootMyNova
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Balta Skywalker
*Sigh* Sorry, after my absence, I got kinda lost, so I may offer match-ups that have already been made.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
He honestly doesn't put up a decent fight in sabers. He gets speedblitzed. ****ing LUKE doesn't speedblitz Kenobi...

Just like Sidious doesn't speedblitz Dooku, and how Windu is comparable to both of them, and is able to take some wins from Sidious in sabers.

UCanShootMyNova
Originally posted by Jmanghan
****ing LUKE doesn't speedblitz Kenobi...

He does doe.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Jmanghan
****ing LUKE doesn't speedblitz Kenobi...

Just like Sidious doesn't speedblitz Dooku, and how Windu is comparable to both of them, and is able to take some wins from Sidious in sabers.
I see where you're coming from Jman but Plagueis and Luke both have speed feats that far outstrip Kenobi's. Standing toe to toe with Maul and Grievous is impressive considering their speed but comparing them to Plagueis is laughable

Balta Skywalker
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
He honestly doesn't put up a decent fight in sabers. He gets speedblitzed.

I personally don't think Plagueis would be able to speedblitz Kenobi. It's a lot harder than it looks like to speedblitz that guy.

chingchangwalla
The versus series vids for Antoine will be interesting tho. He plans on doing
Revan vs Yoda
Malak & Revan vs Bane & Zannah
Jango Fett vs Cad Bane

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Balta Skywalker
I personally don't think Plagueis would be able to speedblitz Kenobi. It's a lot harder than it looks like to speedblitz that guy.
ROTS Palpatine blitzed 2 swordsmen in the same league as Kenobi with ease. Plagueis would have comparable speed so what's to say he couldn't blitz one? And lol, you know from experience that it's hard to speedblitz guys?

Balta Skywalker
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
The versus series vids for Antoine will be interesting tho. He plans on doing
Revan vs Yoda
Malak & Revan vs Bane & Zannah
Jango Fett vs Cad Bane

All of those are confirmed. Revalak vs Bannah should be coming later this month.

Also, he will do Darth Krayt vs Exar Kun on early 2017.

Ursumeles
Yoda vs Revan :/

chingchangwalla
SOR Revan vs out of prime Yoda would be a good match... Revan has a very good chance in force and I bet Ant could make a case for him in sabers...

Ursumeles
Ant could, but Antoine? Also, RotS Yoda>>Revan.

chingchangwalla
He would take a majority yes, but I can still see Revan winning honestly. Reading through both of their RT's, Yoda isn't all that impressive until he pretty much stalemates ROTS Palps :/

Ursumeles
And that feat alone puts him above Revan thumb up
Easily beating Dooku, without really trying is also very good.

chingchangwalla
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Easily beating Dooku, without really trying is also very good.
Kek

"The two Force warriors attempted to defeat each other with displays of telekinesis and other Force abilities, but they were too evenly matched."

"Count Dooku and Master Yoda engaging in a titanic struggle of Force powers on Geonosis."

Ursumeles
I reffered to Vjun smile

darthbane77
Plagueis stomps

Jmanghan
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
ROTS Palpatine blitzed 2 swordsmen in the same league as Kenobi with ease. Plagueis would have comparable speed so what's to say he couldn't blitz one? And lol, you know from experience that it's hard to speedblitz guys? Saesee and Agen are not in Kenobi's league as a swordsman.

Kenobi is a dude who can take on people like Dooku and take wins, hell, I have them as equals in terms of sabers.

MythLord
You also have breast cancer.

Trocity
Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Kek

"The two Force warriors attempted to defeat each other with displays of telekinesis and other Force abilities, but they were too evenly matched."

"Count Dooku and Master Yoda engaging in a titanic struggle of Force powers on Geonosis."

And then Yoda shits on Dooku while on a potent Dark Side nexus. thumb up

So...

Originally posted by chingchangwalla
Kek

MythLord
Too evenly matched while Yoda held back, yes.

Though, Dooku and Mace have always been presented as generally the top dogs of the time, besides Skywalker, Sheev and Yoda, and have the ability to contend decently.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by MythLord
Too evenly matched while Yoda held back, yes.

Though, Dooku and Mace have always been presented as generally the top dogs of the time, besides Skywalker, Sheev and Yoda, and have the ability to contend decently. And Obi-Wan beat an emotionally messed up Anakin in a duel, he was equal to him the entire time, if we take Anakin, who stomped Dooku, and put Dooku into that fight, I have a feeling Dooku would stalemate Skywalker, or lose, possibly win if he pulls a "high ground" like Kenobi did.

MythLord
Actually, Dooku was tooling an emotionally hindered Anakin in RotS upon using Dun Moch. And this Anakin was more driven and focused than the one Kenobi fought.

In turn, Dooku > Obi-Wan. thumb up

Jmanghan
Originally posted by MythLord
Actually, Dooku was tooling an emotionally hindered Anakin in RotS upon using Dun Moch. And this Anakin was more driven and focused than the one Kenobi fought.

In turn, Dooku > Obi-Wan. thumb up When tf was Dooku tooling Anakin?

Anakin destroyed him utterly.

Ursumeles
Before Kenobi was taken out, lol.

Fated Xtasy
These guys are dumb af. Lets move on to newer info

Jmanghan
Originally posted by Ursumeles
Before Kenobi was taken out, lol. Not really, all Dooku does is lift Anakin up, and maybe kick him, but that doesn't constitute superior saber skills, unless you think Ven Zallow > Malgus in sabers.

Ursumeles
I responded to the "Anakin destroyed him" part. That was only at the end.

MythLord
Originally posted by Jmanghan
When tf was Dooku tooling Anakin?

Anakin destroyed him utterly.

Re-read the novel:

"Dread, Dooku surmised, of himself. Of what might happen if he should ever allow that furnace he used for a heart to go supercritical.

Dooku slipped aside from an overhand chop and sprang backward. "I sense great fear in you. You are consumed by it. Hero With No Fear, indeed. You're a fraud, Skywalker. You are nothing but a posturing child."

He pointed his lightsaber at the young Jedi like an accusing finger. "Aren't you a little old to be afraid of the dark?"

Skywalker leapt for him again, and this time Dooku met the boy's charge easily. They stood nearly toe-to-toe, blades flashing faster than the eye could see, but Skywalker had lost his edge: a simple taunt was all that had been required to shift the focus of his attention from winning the fight to controlling his own emotions. The angrier he got, the more afraid he became, and the fear fed his anger in turn; like the proverbial Corellian multipede, now that he had started thinking about what he was doing, he could no longer walk.

Dooku allowed himself to relax; he felt that spirit of playfulness coming over him again as he and Skywalker spun 'round each other in their lethal dance. Whatever fun was to be had, he should enjoy while he could."

When Dooku used Dun Moch, Anakin became emotionally hindered, and then Dooku was having fun with him.

Jmanghan
Originally posted by MythLord
Re-read the novel:

"Dread, Dooku surmised, of himself. Of what might happen if he should ever allow that furnace he used for a heart to go supercritical.

Dooku slipped aside from an overhand chop and sprang backward. "I sense great fear in you. You are consumed by it. Hero With No Fear, indeed. You're a fraud, Skywalker. You are nothing but a posturing child."

He pointed his lightsaber at the young Jedi like an accusing finger. "Aren't you a little old to be afraid of the dark?"

Skywalker leapt for him again, and this time Dooku met the boy's charge easily. They stood nearly toe-to-toe, blades flashing faster than the eye could see, but Skywalker had lost his edge: a simple taunt was all that had been required to shift the focus of his attention from winning the fight to controlling his own emotions. The angrier he got, the more afraid he became, and the fear fed his anger in turn; like the proverbial Corellian multipede, now that he had started thinking about what he was doing, he could no longer walk.

Dooku allowed himself to relax; he felt that spirit of playfulness coming over him again as he and Skywalker spun 'round each other in their lethal dance. Whatever fun was to be had, he should enjoy while he could."

When Dooku used Dun Moch, Anakin became emotionally hindered, and then Dooku was having fun with him. Having fun with someone and toying with them sound similar, but are in fact, two different things.

Its not Star Wars, but I'll use Kenpachi Zaraki as an example. Even against very real threats, he loves fighting people on his level.

Also, that doesn't mean anything, because shortly after that, Anakin starts ****ing Dooku up again. You also forget the part where Dooku got scared shitless of KENOBI and Anakin once they got serious.

SunRazer
The RotS novel is alone in having Anakin curb Dooku. The junior novel has them as equals, with "neither able to gain the advantage". The website and TCSWE claim that Dooku "proved a formidable opponent" for Anakin and Obi-Wan together.

MythLord
Originally posted by Jmanghan
Having fun with someone and toying with them sound similar, but are in fact, two different things.

Its not Star Wars, but I'll use Kenpachi Zaraki as an example. Even against very real threats, he loves fighting people on his level.

Also, that doesn't mean anything, because shortly after that, Anakin starts ****ing Dooku up again. You also forget the part where Dooku got scared shitless of KENOBI and Anakin once they got serious.

Not really. At least, not in this case. Dooku is relaxed, and having fun because Anakin is now emotionally hindered. He wrecked Dooku only when Sidious motivated him... Read the source before making assumptions, please.

And Dooku was surprised when Kenobi and Anakin lulled him into a false sense of security, tired him out, and were now ramping things up... Then both got dropped on their arses by Dooku. thumb up

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