Atton Rand vs Kylo Ren

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Tondemonai
I swear this has been done, but I didn't find anything

All-out fight

Battle takes place in the fields of Dantooine

slayne
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Big Gerald
Atton wins. More combat experience, especially against Jedi, and he had substantial training. Kylo Ren's feats are equal with his anti-feats (i.e. Rey being much more powerful than him)

SunRazer
If we're taking the "canon" path, Atton beats Kylo as of now, but that could easily change.

MythLord
I feel Kylo can take it, tbh.

TenebrousWay
Originally posted by MythLord
I feel Kylo can take it, tbh.

Trocity
Ren.

darthbane77
Originally posted by MythLord
I feel Kylo can take it, tbh.

Tondemonai
Atton also learned how to resist stasis before his training with Meetra iirc

Jmulherin
Originally posted by Big Gerald
Atton wins. More combat experience, especially against Jedi, and he had substantial training. Kylo Ren's feats are equal with his anti-feats (i.e. Rey being much more powerful than him)
I have to completely agree, ren got beat by a completey untrained rey across almost all fields. Atton actually knows what he is doing.

DarthDuelist9
Some comments are utterly ridiculous. Anyway, Kylo's ability to easily reach Ventress+ level augmentation in far worse circumstances than the latter as well as Ventress ability to compete with duelists like Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi or Dooku, who're all far superior to Atton Rand, combined with Kylo's training should definitely be sufficient to pull out a victory in the duelling departement. In terms of Force power, Kylo's far more powerful than characters who can move ship sized asteroids and his own ability to directly counter lightsaber blows with a Force barrier makes it a one sided contest. Kylo takes it solidly, 10/10.

SunRazer
Kylo's training is completely unquantifiable; all we know is that he was trained by both Luke and Snoke and that it was incomplete on both fronts. He's only managed to beat half-trained students and stormtroopers wielding lightsabers. Atton was an expert Sith Assassin during the Jedi Civil War (where almost every Jedi running around was a combat expert) and he manages to defeat Sion under horrific circumstances, with Sion himself regularly cutting down said combat experts nearly half a century beforehand. In terms of his performance record, Kylo has sh!t all on Atton, lol.

What "Ventress+ level augmentation" are we talking about here? Just the pain tolerance, or actual speed and strength of that calibre?

slayne
Duelist, since when has Kylo been in the same stratosphere as Ventress with regards to anything that pertains to actual combat?

MythLord
His endurance/pain tolerance is better than Asajj's... not sure how that in any way translates to speed or strength.

SunRazer
Yeah, thought that's what he meant.

DarthDuelist9
Originally posted by MythLord
His endurance/pain tolerance is better than Asajj's... not sure how that in any way translates to speed or strength.

Because it's the same type of augmentation? The only thing which grants him that power is the Force, otherwise he's just a human of flesh and blood.

SunRazer
So I guess Sion has the best augmentation in the mythos. And Atton beat him on a DS nexus. thumb up

Beniboybling
thumb up laughing out loud

DarthDuelist9
Unless Sion isba canon character I doubt it

Dispray
Ben

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